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Replying To riverboys: "Is Cody the greatest manager ever? No, he is a good manager because of the talent he has at his possession, to prove he is a great manager he has to take a weak county team and get them to the top table and win Liam, for example if he were to take charge of the likes of Carlow or Laois and they win the All Ireland Hurling title under his management then he can proudly wear the cap of the greatest manager ever" That has to be the most stupid post I've ever read on here. If God himself were managing the likes of these counties they wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning an All Ireland they simply don't have the players to even come close. Oh and by the way who do you consider better than Cody? dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 02/12/2016 15:06:07 1938029 Link
Ferguson a great manager, don't make me laugh, he spent over 20 years bullying referees. As for stupid comments the Wicklow person would want to read the comments again, Cody has won numerous All Ireland titles with Kilkenny because he has quality players on his team and a vast array of players within the county to chose from, the same with the Dublin footballers, most counties would give their right arm to have 1 or 2 of those Kilkenny lads on their team, until other counties shape up and make their mark Kilkenny under any manager will always be in the shake up for Liam, Tipp are up their at the moment but it will take a few AI titles over a short period to leave a lasting impact riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 02/12/2016 22:13:55 1938105 Link
Replying To riverboys: "Ferguson a great manager, don't make me laugh, he spent over 20 years bullying referees. As for stupid comments the Wicklow person would want to read the comments again, Cody has won numerous All Ireland titles with Kilkenny because he has quality players on his team and a vast array of players within the county to chose from, the same with the Dublin footballers, most counties would give their right arm to have 1 or 2 of those Kilkenny lads on their team, until other counties shape up and make their mark Kilkenny under any manager will always be in the shake up for Liam, Tipp are up their at the moment but it will take a few AI titles over a short period to leave a lasting impact" In many cases, having an abundance of talent can be harder to manage than less talented teams. In fairness, almost all those legendary Kilkenny players only became legends under Cody's tenure. It's highly unlikely Kilkenny would've won half as much without him at the helm for all these years. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 02/12/2016 23:40:58 1938112 Link
Replying To riverboys: "Ferguson a great manager, don't make me laugh, he spent over 20 years bullying referees. As for stupid comments the Wicklow person would want to read the comments again, Cody has won numerous All Ireland titles with Kilkenny because he has quality players on his team and a vast array of players within the county to chose from, the same with the Dublin footballers, most counties would give their right arm to have 1 or 2 of those Kilkenny lads on their team, until other counties shape up and make their mark Kilkenny under any manager will always be in the shake up for Liam, Tipp are up their at the moment but it will take a few AI titles over a short period to leave a lasting impact" Once is enough to read something that makes no sense whatsoever. What your saying is if Cody took over Carlow and didn't win the All Ireland you wouldn't rate him a great manager. Even Cody couldn't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. As for Alex Ferguson don't make me laugh. dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 03/12/2016 00:04:46 1938113 Link
Replying To riverboys: "Ferguson a great manager, don't make me laugh, he spent over 20 years bullying referees. As for stupid comments the Wicklow person would want to read the comments again, Cody has won numerous All Ireland titles with Kilkenny because he has quality players on his team and a vast array of players within the county to chose from, the same with the Dublin footballers, most counties would give their right arm to have 1 or 2 of those Kilkenny lads on their team, until other counties shape up and make their mark Kilkenny under any manager will always be in the shake up for Liam, Tipp are up their at the moment but it will take a few AI titles over a short period to leave a lasting impact" ssshhhhhhh trust me....sssshhhhhh juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 03/12/2016 01:40:05 1938120 Link
Replying To riverboys: "Ferguson a great manager, don't make me laugh, he spent over 20 years bullying referees. As for stupid comments the Wicklow person would want to read the comments again, Cody has won numerous All Ireland titles with Kilkenny because he has quality players on his team and a vast array of players within the county to chose from, the same with the Dublin footballers, most counties would give their right arm to have 1 or 2 of those Kilkenny lads on their team, until other counties shape up and make their mark Kilkenny under any manager will always be in the shake up for Liam, Tipp are up their at the moment but it will take a few AI titles over a short period to leave a lasting impact" are you on a wind up? both Cody and Fergie took over teams that were a shadow of what they became. Kilkenny hadn't won an AI in 5 years and were ranked behind Clare, Offaly, Wexford, Tipp and possibly Cork and Waterford for the AI. They weren't even kingpins of Leinster anymore and very quicky under Cody's guidance they became the best in the country and stayed there for a long time. Fergie took over Utd when they hadn't won a league in decades. They were well off the pace of other teams like Liverpool, Everton, Spurs and Arsenal and within a few years they were winning back to back league titles and then European champions as well as one of the biggest clubs in the world. Just because Kilkenny had talented young players you shouldn't assume that they would have been successful anyway. Do you know how many other counties had successful and talented minor teams never to achieve anything a senior level? Cody played a major role in turning young olayers into stars, even some that weren't highly rated at underage. i wouldnt be the biggest fan of Cody or Fergie personally, but from a managerial stand point i do have the upmost respect for both, it really is hard not to and i dont know where your coming from with those comments. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 03/12/2016 10:27:25 1938126 Link
Replying To riverboys: "Ferguson a great manager, don't make me laugh, he spent over 20 years bullying referees. As for stupid comments the Wicklow person would want to read the comments again, Cody has won numerous All Ireland titles with Kilkenny because he has quality players on his team and a vast array of players within the county to chose from, the same with the Dublin footballers, most counties would give their right arm to have 1 or 2 of those Kilkenny lads on their team, until other counties shape up and make their mark Kilkenny under any manager will always be in the shake up for Liam, Tipp are up their at the moment but it will take a few AI titles over a short period to leave a lasting impact" I sincerely hope, for your sake, that your opinions here are a wind up....... Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 03/12/2016 10:49:14 1938128 Link
Don't really understand what Loughnane is getting at and it could be interpreted as a petty dig at Cody. If players and CB are happy to have him, and if Cody still has the appetite for the job then there's no better man to manage the talent that's there. I don't buy into talk of legacies either or the comparisons to O'Dwyer, Boylan or Ferguson. Meath and Kerry stagnated because of a lack of quality and was a result of neglect at grass roots levels, underage coaching or maybe simply a shortage of talent. It happens. To say it was because they had a county manager that was left too long in the job is a bit disingenuous. Same with Utd. After Ferguson left the club spent plenty of money on bringing in top talent. If it was not managed properly it's hardly his fault. Bit of a daft point IMO. Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 03/12/2016 11:24:08 1938133 Link
Replying To Hardtimes: "Don't really understand what Loughnane is getting at and it could be interpreted as a petty dig at Cody. If players and CB are happy to have him, and if Cody still has the appetite for the job then there's no better man to manage the talent that's there. I don't buy into talk of legacies either or the comparisons to O'Dwyer, Boylan or Ferguson. Meath and Kerry stagnated because of a lack of quality and was a result of neglect at grass roots levels, underage coaching or maybe simply a shortage of talent. It happens. To say it was because they had a county manager that was left too long in the job is a bit disingenuous. Same with Utd. After Ferguson left the club spent plenty of money on bringing in top talent. If it was not managed properly it's hardly his fault. Bit of a daft point IMO." Meath and Kerry stagnated because of a lack of quality and was a result of neglect at grass roots levels, underage coaching or maybe simply a shortage of talent. I took it up to be exactly what you said above. They now have the same lack of quality and neglected underage and should have went when he had the chance. That was my interpretation of the article tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 05/12/2016 13:37:24 1938408 Link
loughnanne is a figure of fun writing in a tabloid "paper" no respected hurling people take him seriously. hes just trying to sell papers... kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 07/12/2016 16:01:47 1938892 Link

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