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No Tricolour or National Anthem at GAA Matches

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I have no problem reducing the number of matches were the Anthem is song to major finals or semi finals etc

Don't see why we need to get rid of the flag though.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 01/12/2016 10:52:43    1937767

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Replying To Htaem:  "Calm down my fellow African, nationality is not defined by genetics, we are defined by our genetics, 'nationality' is merely an illusion, it's entirely man made.

Come royaldunne I need some help here, educating these people is at least a 2 man job!"
"Nationality is a state of mind, not a state" . I said that. :)

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 01/12/2016 11:42:40    1937773

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The national flag is, well the national flag!! What is the problem? If you have a problem with the flag you are hardly the type that is going to play GAA sports anyway, so removing the flag won't remove their prejudice or their problem. But similarly with the Union Jack that is the national flag in the six counties so I guess there is an argument for no national flags/anthems in the six counties but that is not a problem in the rest of the counties.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 01/12/2016 11:49:26    1937774

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Replying To arock:  "The national flag is, well the national flag!! What is the problem? If you have a problem with the flag you are hardly the type that is going to play GAA sports anyway, so removing the flag won't remove their prejudice or their problem. But similarly with the Union Jack that is the national flag in the six counties so I guess there is an argument for no national flags/anthems in the six counties but that is not a problem in the rest of the counties."
The union fleg is not and never will be my national flag.

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 01/12/2016 12:30:02    1937783

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For me, the GAA should be about sport only. Focus entirely on providing GAA games for all genders and ages. All the other stuff about language and nationalism are red herrings. There are plenty of political parties and language societies out there to join if those things are your main interest.

All this 'why should we give up x , y, z?' talk. Maybe we should ask ourselves why are doing those things at all. Might have made sense to do those things in the past, but does it make sense now. Kissing the bishops ring before a game for example, Did cutting that out make catholic GAA members less catholic? I doubt it, they could still be as devout as they like any other time.

I don't think this is really about reaching out to unionist people either. Its about the GAA being comfortable enough in its own skin to continue to modernize to the benefit of its members, whoever they may be or whatever walk of life they come from. If unionists happen to like GAA more after it then well and good. More the merrier as far as I'm concerned

himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 01/12/2016 12:57:00    1937786

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Replying To arock:  "The national flag is, well the national flag!! What is the problem? If you have a problem with the flag you are hardly the type that is going to play GAA sports anyway, so removing the flag won't remove their prejudice or their problem. But similarly with the Union Jack that is the national flag in the six counties so I guess there is an argument for no national flags/anthems in the six counties but that is not a problem in the rest of the counties."
Sure the current Union Flag still has the Flag of St Patrick incorporated since the good old days when all of Ireland was under British Rule so why not just fly it at all matches involving all 32 Counties. Oh, and their is no official flag of "Northern Ireland" - don't be fooled by what you see up lampposts or when you are watching any sport where the NI team are playing or where Ruairí Mac Giolla Ruadh is out walking around a park.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 01/12/2016 13:23:08    1937791

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Replying To RoyalBadger:  "Its odd a Cavan man has never visited the Hill of Tara seen as it has free entry!"
Yeah extremely odd.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/12/2016 13:27:03    1937792

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Replying To arock:  "The national flag is, well the national flag!! What is the problem? If you have a problem with the flag you are hardly the type that is going to play GAA sports anyway, so removing the flag won't remove their prejudice or their problem. But similarly with the Union Jack that is the national flag in the six counties so I guess there is an argument for no national flags/anthems in the six counties but that is not a problem in the rest of the counties."
The butchers apron is not my national flag, nor is it the flag of anyone I know in the 6 counties and I'll fly my national flag with pride whenever I like if it's all the same to you.

Tom1916 (Armagh) - Posts: 2001 - 01/12/2016 14:50:31    1937822

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Ha ha it's easy to rile the Royals.
Just back from Newgrange lads and funny enough there's Tricolours flying on some of the bye-roads near the great tomb.
The lads might want them removed.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 01/12/2016 16:27:10    1937838

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Replying To rebelfan:  "I'm ok not playing the anthem, maybe only play it in finals, but I'd be against removing the irish flag, maybe remove it when Northern Irish teams are playing, but other than that I'd be against removing the flag"
Remove our flag when "northern irish teams play"
For all GAA followers in the SIX COUNTIES this is their indetity they are as much irish as all GAA folowers in the 32 counties
Northern irish teams?disgraceful comment

aulddub (Dublin) - Posts: 1 - 01/12/2016 17:09:58    1937851

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Replying To Cavan_Slasher:  "Ha ha it's easy to rile the Royals.
Just back from Newgrange lads and funny enough there's Tricolours flying on some of the bye-roads near the great tomb.
The lads might want them removed."
Ah I don't know about that Slasher, if you look back on the negative reaction our posts got, it looks more like us royals are the masters at rilin'.

I would say job done very nicely :-)

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 01/12/2016 17:28:44    1937852

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Replying To s goldrick:  ""Nationality is a state of mind, not a state" . I said that. :)"
Damn right goldrick, well said.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 01/12/2016 17:35:33    1937856

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Just play it before finals

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 01/12/2016 17:37:01    1937857

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Replying To Cavan_Slasher:  "Ha ha it's easy to rile the Royals.
Just back from Newgrange lads and funny enough there's Tricolours flying on some of the bye-roads near the great tomb.
The lads might want them removed."
Have you ever thought about a career in politics? By jasus that's one of the best pivots I've seen.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/12/2016 17:48:58    1937860

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Replying To Tom1916:  "The butchers apron is not my national flag, nor is it the flag of anyone I know in the 6 counties and I'll fly my national flag with pride whenever I like if it's all the same to you."
Jesus you must be very isolationist, I know people who consider the tri colour, union flag, USA, French, Spanish, Nigerian, Australian, new Zealand, south African all as there national flag, perhaps you need to get out more.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/12/2016 17:51:43    1937861

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Replying To Htaem:  "Ah I don't know about that Slasher, if you look back on the negative reaction our posts got, it looks more like us royals are the masters at rilin'.

I would say job done very nicely :-)"
Are you saying you got your retaliation in first?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 01/12/2016 18:06:12    1937864

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Just be done with all national flags and fly apple and Google emblems from now on....sure isn't it all about the money!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 01/12/2016 18:49:10    1937872

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Replying To aulddub:  "Remove our flag when "northern irish teams play"
For all GAA followers in the SIX COUNTIES this is their indetity they are as much irish as all GAA folowers in the 32 counties
Northern irish teams?disgraceful comment"
I'm just stating a fact, weather we like it or not there is a border, personally I don't like it, but it's there

rebelfan (Cork) - Posts: 70 - 01/12/2016 18:52:25    1937873

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Replying To Htaem:  "Ah I don't know about that Slasher, if you look back on the negative reaction our posts got, it looks more like us royals are the masters at rilin'.

I would say job done very nicely :-)"
Yep. We are home and hosed. Winner alright winner alright. :)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/12/2016 19:08:08    1937882

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Replying To keeper7:  "Ever heard the orchestral instrumental version of Ámhrán na bhFiann? It's fantastic. The bottom line is that not everyone will like a given song/anthem no matter how well it may be received."
I think I have heard an orchestral version of Amhran na bhfiann before, it was years ago though and some cheap cd we had in the house so it's probably not the version you're talking about.

Going way off topic here but seen as how you mentioned orchestral versions, wasn't it the orchestral version of The Last Time by The Rolling Stones (which in itself was a rip off of a song by from the 50s I think) that The Verve sampled for Bittersweet Symphony? Then they were successfully sued by a record label and made no money off the song.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 01/12/2016 19:22:40    1937886

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