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12 stadia to make up Ireland's 2023 RWC Bid

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Aviva Stadium, RDS Arena, Kingspan Stadium and Thomond Park
Nowlan Park, Fitzgerald Stadium, Páirc Uí Chaoimh, MacHale Park, Pearse Stadium, Casement Park, Celtic Park

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ormondbannerman (Clare) - 15/11/2016 12:59:13    1934339

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "Aviva Stadium, RDS Arena, Kingspan Stadium and Thomond Park
Nowlan Park, Fitzgerald Stadium, Páirc Uí Chaoimh, MacHale Park, Pearse Stadium, Casement Park, Celtic Park

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Don't agree with the use of all these GAA stadia for the Rugby world cup.If they haven't got enough of their own stadia they shouldn't be allowed host it.

cuederocket (Dublin) - 15/11/2016 13:12:09    1934343

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Have to think of the bigger picture, the tourism boost.

m_the_d (None) - 15/11/2016 13:16:50    1934344

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Replying To cuederocket:  "Don't agree with the use of all these GAA stadia for the Rugby world cup.If they haven't got enough of their own stadia they shouldn't be allowed host it."
Sorry can't agree with you there. Why would you not rent out stadiums and showcase what the gaa has to foreigners and millions of people throughout the globe. Heck you could even showcase the stadiums to people in our own country who don't know what we have.

The only thing I would be worried about is county finals. Do rugby world cup games take priority over the county finals? A bit like the semi final replay a few years ago?

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - 15/11/2016 13:17:47    1934345

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Replying To cuederocket:  "Don't agree with the use of all these GAA stadia for the Rugby world cup.If they haven't got enough of their own stadia they shouldn't be allowed host it."
most major GAA grounds are under utilized & this is a chance to help the country benefit from a possible windfall of tourist money so why the hell not?

LemonySnickett (Louth) - 15/11/2016 13:18:40    1934346

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Replying To cuederocket:  "Don't agree with the use of all these GAA stadia for the Rugby world cup.If they haven't got enough of their own stadia they shouldn't be allowed host it."
Yeah why should all those places get extra tourism and revenue. You might not agree but many will, me included.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - 15/11/2016 13:23:11    1934348

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Replying To cuederocket:  "Don't agree with the use of all these GAA stadia for the Rugby world cup.If they haven't got enough of their own stadia they shouldn't be allowed host it."
On a sidenote is Celtic Park good enough to host? And will these GAA grounds need investment for media facilities, etc...

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - 15/11/2016 13:24:51    1934349

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Sensible enough choices, outside of Pairc Ui Chaoimh and Casement all the others are presently of decent standard and would need small/medium investment to make them ready

Richieq (Meath) - 15/11/2016 13:32:46    1934350

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Countries that host major sporting events rarely get a tourism boost from it.

They may get more people that particular month but it tends to even out over a number of years.

I don't see why Ireland will be the exception in that. Beware of organisers and politicians spinning lies lads.

MesAmis (Dublin) - 15/11/2016 13:45:33    1934355

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A complete lack of stadiums through the middle of the country which is a real pity. But can case this is all talk as I very doubt Ireland will win the bid.

ROS1 (Roscommon) - 15/11/2016 13:50:46    1934357

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Plus given the past history of these things wouldn't suprise me if the Welsh manage to get some game in cardiff

ROS1 (Roscommon) - 15/11/2016 13:52:21    1934360

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Sorry can't agree with you there. Why would you not rent out stadiums and showcase what the gaa has to foreigners and millions of people throughout the globe. Heck you could even showcase the stadiums to people in our own country who don't know what we have.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:3698 - 15/11/2016 13:17:47


A rugby cup won't showcase the GAA at all.

Not definitely against it or anything but I just don't think that that is a reason for doing it.

For me there are two reasons why the GAA should assist in this venture.

1. Investment in GAA facilities.

2. The negative hounding of the GAA from the private school educated media would be astronomical if they refused.

MesAmis (Dublin) - 15/11/2016 13:52:34    1934361

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I understand the tourism side of it and would benefit from that myself.I was also in agreement with opening up Croke Park to rugby for the brief time the Aviva was under reconstruction.That was a unique reason though and the GAA would have looked bad if they didn't help out.

I feel this is different though.The GAA is in competition with rugby and why should we help Irish rugby host such a huge event and all the positive feeling that rugby would gain because of it?What has Rugby ever done for the GAA?Besid ban the playing of our games in some colleges?I realise i'll have little support on this one but that's my stance on the matter.

cuederocket (Dublin) - 15/11/2016 13:57:28    1934363

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Don't forget The Spa Bowl posters haha eh Cue

clondalkindub (Dublin) - 15/11/2016 14:17:33    1934368

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Sorry can't agree with you there. Why would you not rent out stadiums and showcase what the gaa has to foreigners and millions of people throughout the globe. Heck you could even showcase the stadiums to people in our own country who don't know what we have.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:3698 - 15/11/2016 13:17:47


A rugby cup won't showcase the GAA at all.

Not definitely against it or anything but I just don't think that that is a reason for doing it.

For me there are two reasons why the GAA should assist in this venture.

1. Investment in GAA facilities.

2. The negative hounding of the GAA from the private school educated media would be astronomical if they refused."
Again. The elitist thing is only prevalent in Dublin. Most people I know who play rugby down country (meath/Westmeath) would be from middle class or working class. Know one fella who played under shmidt in Mullingar, grew up in council estate, went to the working class school and tech. Only finished up playing with cullion couple years ago. Furthest thing from elite you could imagine, so when you are stereotyping people involved in rugby, please remember that it exists outside the m50 and is quite different.
Best of luck with the bid, be huge boost for country north and south. One draw back , pity navan wasnt included, we would a got new stadium.

royaldunne (Meath) - 15/11/2016 14:19:19    1934370

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Do we insist on Amhrain na bFiann at all our venues?

19616609 (Louth) - 15/11/2016 14:24:00    1934374

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Replying To 19616609:  "Do we insist on Amhrain na bFiann at all our venues?"
Sure they won't even fly our National flag.................................

No issue with th use of the stadiums BUT once there is ZERO impact on the GAA season, county and intercounty; Issues is it runs September through to end of october or november

witnof (Dublin) - 15/11/2016 14:38:33    1934377

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Replying To cuederocket:  "I understand the tourism side of it and would benefit from that myself.I was also in agreement with opening up Croke Park to rugby for the brief time the Aviva was under reconstruction.That was a unique reason though and the GAA would have looked bad if they didn't help out.

I feel this is different though.The GAA is in competition with rugby and why should we help Irish rugby host such a huge event and all the positive feeling that rugby would gain because of it?What has Rugby ever done for the GAA?Besid ban the playing of our games in some colleges?I realise i'll have little support on this one but that's my stance on the matter."
So to date, we've given them a stadium a few years ago so Ireland could "mature as a nation". We gave them the unique ability to catch a ball over their heads. And now we're giving them 8 (Eight) stadiums for THEIR Worldwide showcase.

Hard to fathom what they owe us in return.

Breffni39 (Cavan) - 15/11/2016 14:39:16    1934378

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Replying To cuederocket:  "I understand the tourism side of it and would benefit from that myself.I was also in agreement with opening up Croke Park to rugby for the brief time the Aviva was under reconstruction.That was a unique reason though and the GAA would have looked bad if they didn't help out.

I feel this is different though.The GAA is in competition with rugby and why should we help Irish rugby host such a huge event and all the positive feeling that rugby would gain because of it?What has Rugby ever done for the GAA?Besid ban the playing of our games in some colleges?I realise i'll have little support on this one but that's my stance on the matter."
Cue I can see where you are coming from but also you also have to have faith in the GAA - look at its durability and its undiminished popularity across the generations. It has survived nearly tearing itself apart over politics in the 1890s, it survived the Irish Revolution and the Civil War which followed. It has prospered despite the waves of emigration which flowed from this island in the 1930's, 40s, 50s and 80s. Despite the behemoth of global, professional, pay per view sports that have emerged in the last 25 years, tv audiences, match attendances and participation levels for the GAA still dwarf anything else in Ireland.

Rugby will never become what the GAA is simply because (outside of possibly Limerick city), rugby has never been able to become the people's game. In fact the reason rugby has such a special status in Limerick is that around the turn of the 20th century the rugby powers that be in the city decided to use the GAA model and establish parish rugby clubs which played games on Sundays. Given the GAA was so weak in the city at the time, rugby gained its foothold there and never looked back.

Outside of there and few other small pockets, rugby is a niche sport. It has never managed to intertwine itself into Irish society and culture the way the GAA has. Look at the number of rugby clubs and compare them with the hundreds of GAA clubs across every parish on this island. The GAA remains the heart of countless of communities across Ireland. Rugby can't even come close to matching its level.

Rugby will always be the fourth sport behind the two GAA codes and soccer. Yes it is far more popular now than at any stage, but that's on the back of the sport turning professional and the unprecedented success of Irish teams on a national and European stage. I would say a fair few GAA people would now also consider themselves rugby fans. I am. I never really saw rugby growing up, but was exposed to it at college and I became a big fan of Munster etc. But it is always secondary to the GAA and if I had to chose it would be Kerry winning Sam over Ireland winning a Grand Slam everyday of the week!

This is a fantastic opportunity for Ireland to showcase itself to the world and for us to show off the stadium infrastructure that an amateur organisation, playing a sport that hardly anyone outside this Ireland has heard of, can develop on through its own sweat and toil.

We should all get behind this, the GAA has survived and thrived for more than 130 years, it will survive and thrive long after 2023!

TheHermit (Kerry) - 15/11/2016 14:40:54    1934379

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Again. The elitist thing is only prevalent in Dublin. Most people I know who play rugby down country (meath/Westmeath) would be from middle class or working class. Know one fella who played under shmidt in Mullingar, grew up in council estate, went to the working class school and tech. Only finished up playing with cullion couple years ago. Furthest thing from elite you could imagine, so when you are stereotyping people involved in rugby, please remember that it exists outside the m50 and is quite different.
Best of luck with the bid, be huge boost for country north and south. One draw back , pity navan wasnt included, we would a got new stadium.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:9684 - 15/11/2016 14:19:19


That's great and all but it has nothing to do with the point I was making.

If the GAA had have declined the use of its stadia then the media would have gone into overdrive in its criticism.

MesAmis (Dublin) - 15/11/2016 14:42:01    1934381

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