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Well Done Lee Keegan !!

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Replying To ZeitChrist:  "1). Yes.
2). You mean the same tactics being employed by defenders up and down the country, including those playing on your own team?"
If every defender is doing it does that make it ok? Well train our kids to do it will we?

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 06/11/2016 15:26:37    1932074

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Replying To Brianmac78:  "If every defender is doing it does that make it ok? Well train our kids to do it will we?"
No don't train your kids to do it. That would be crazy. Explain to your kids how through alot of hard work and dedication over many years Lee ended up as POTY. Show them the massive scores he got v Tyrone or the goal he got in the replay for example. Show them his great tackling and foot work.
When they are older you can show them the other stuff ;) The idea that the likes of Keegan is somehow a vanguard in the dark arts of man marking is ridiculous. Your own team have a few men who don't need any lessons in man marking and all that comes with it.
Keegan deserved the award. If Fenton got it there wouldn't have been any surprise or the crying, wailing or moralizing that has followed. You guys should enjoy Dublin's success. It won't last forever.

Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 06/11/2016 15:55:32    1932078

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Replying To Brianmac78:  "If every defender is doing it does that make it ok? Well train our kids to do it will we?"
Your kids will be doing it soon enough anyway if they stick with the GAA and are serious about winning. People act like Keegan is the first and last to ever play the game hard or that he's the only person in the game doing it. They're all doing it, including the "whiter than white" Dubs, so don't act like butter wouldn't melt. Go to any club match in the country and you'll see it. It's part of the game, whether you like it or not. Gaelic football is a physical sport, but if some people got their way, the whole thing would be white-washed, but only if their own team can continue getting away with everything and anything of course. Keegan is a competitor who plays on the edge and he plays the game better than anyone else in country right now. A lot of the best players play on the edge. That's what makes them exciting. If you don't want your children looking up to Lee Keegan, fine. But Lee Keegan isn't responsible for parenting your kids. His responsibility is to do his bit for Mayo's success on the field. He's doing well on that front and that's all that matters. The award isn't given out to players for being nice or for being the most respectable player according to the parents of Ireland. It's given to players who are deemed the best by their peers aka other players who know what winning and losing and playing good football is all about. Keegan is an immense player who shows up for the big occasion and gets stuck in. He's the kind of player anyone would love to have on their team, which is why his peers chose him.

ZeitChrist (UK) - Posts: 154 - 06/11/2016 16:03:54    1932079

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Lot of people missing the main point here I feel

Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 06/11/2016 16:45:00    1932082

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Is lee the first defender to win the player of the year since tomás o'sé?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 06/11/2016 17:10:19    1932087

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Replying To Brianmac78:  "Lot of people missing the main point here I feel"
And what's your point? That he shouldn't get POTY because "won't someone think of the children"? As has been pointed out, it's not an award for who's the nicest guy or who do the parents like the most. It's Player of the Year, as voted for by other players. People saying he shouldn't get it because of his "antics", antics which aren't anywhere near as bad as they're made out to be by certain sections of the media, are the ones actually missing the point. Just because Ciaran Whelan says Keegan is over the line doesn't make it so. Keegan has been turned into a pantomime villain by, let's face it, certain sections of the Dublin support and Dublin media figures. He doesn't do anything beyond the pale, yet people still get their knickers in a twist. The same people who wouldn't mind if Connolly was given the award.

ZeitChrist (UK) - Posts: 154 - 06/11/2016 17:19:09    1932091

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Replying To keithlemon:  "Any one of 2004, 05 or 06 for me he would have been a deserved winner. Tomas O'Se, Stephen O'Neill or Kieran Donaghy were all worthy winners in each of those years but for me, the finest footballer of the modern era, not to have the title is a tad bizarre.
Funnily enough, he won the Texaco footballer of the year in 04 but not the All Star footballer of the year."
in all of those years there was a more outstanding player in my view keith..he was one of the best players ever but each year somebody has been better than him

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 06/11/2016 17:30:34    1932095

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Keegan is worthy of the award, great player!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 06/11/2016 18:27:39    1932108

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Replying To Spoddgy:  "He still has him in his pocket"
A streamlined way of getting an All Ireland medal in there and no mistake. :)

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 06/11/2016 19:04:54    1932115

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Replying To ZeitChrist:  "Your kids will be doing it soon enough anyway if they stick with the GAA and are serious about winning. People act like Keegan is the first and last to ever play the game hard or that he's the only person in the game doing it. They're all doing it, including the "whiter than white" Dubs, so don't act like butter wouldn't melt. Go to any club match in the country and you'll see it. It's part of the game, whether you like it or not. Gaelic football is a physical sport, but if some people got their way, the whole thing would be white-washed, but only if their own team can continue getting away with everything and anything of course. Keegan is a competitor who plays on the edge and he plays the game better than anyone else in country right now. A lot of the best players play on the edge. That's what makes them exciting. If you don't want your children looking up to Lee Keegan, fine. But Lee Keegan isn't responsible for parenting your kids. His responsibility is to do his bit for Mayo's success on the field. He's doing well on that front and that's all that matters. The award isn't given out to players for being nice or for being the most respectable player according to the parents of Ireland. It's given to players who are deemed the best by their peers aka other players who know what winning and losing and playing good football is all about. Keegan is an immense player who shows up for the big occasion and gets stuck in. He's the kind of player anyone would love to have on their team, which is why his peers chose him."
Thank god there is people like you,a perfect comment

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 779 - 06/11/2016 19:05:52    1932116

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Two awards really, POTY and he also got Connollys jersey. Lucky boy!! :)"
You call that flimsy piece of material a jersey?

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 06/11/2016 19:41:01    1932133

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He was the best player full stop,I be more concerned cause the clare or tipp midfielder should of got a all star

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 779 - 06/11/2016 20:11:19    1932144

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I never understand this site, they allow people to insult some GAA players or other forum writers views but when it comes to a valid point they won't print it, Lee Keegan deserved to with his award, he kept 2 of our best players quiet this year Sean Cavanagh and Diarmuid Connolly, a few years ago Joe Brolly said Mayo were too nice to win an All Ireland title, now when we have a few tough players that try to win at all costs the same people complain, no pleasing some people

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 06/11/2016 20:55:39    1932164

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Is lee the first defender to win the player of the year since tomás o'sé?"
Marc O'Se 07, Karl Lacey 2012, Jack McCaffrey 2015

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 06/11/2016 21:20:02    1932171

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I'm not sure of the point you are making. Being sent off in an important match is not very clever and does very little in helping to win. Players you consistently foul usually end up on the side line on occasions. Though that D. O'Connor was the standout young player having also played very well throughout the u21 and in final

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 06/11/2016 21:38:52    1932180

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Good luck to him but essentially he's a stopper. Ok , the odd score, but no, not player of the year.

SLLY (Dublin) - Posts: 463 - 06/11/2016 22:02:38    1932188

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Replying To Gael85:  "Marc O'Se 07, Karl Lacey 2012, Jack McCaffrey 2015"
You're right Gael spot on , did Keith Higgins win one as well at some stage?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 06/11/2016 22:06:41    1932192

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "You're right Gael spot on , did Keith Higgins win one as well at some stage?"
He was Young POTY in 2006

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 06/11/2016 22:51:00    1932203

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "You call that flimsy piece of material a jersey?"
Apparently the designers tried to make it light weight for the extra burden of walking up the steps of the hogan stand and trophy lifting mate. :)

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 06/11/2016 23:53:19    1932219

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "You're right Gael spot on , did Keith Higgins win one as well at some stage?"
Don't think so as I believe Keegan is first Mayo man to win POTY.

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 07/11/2016 00:08:06    1932222

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