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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "It would be bad for supporters as croker will have no atmosphere. It would be good for the team having croker as it's home venue for a year. Did the dubs no harm turning it into their home ground. 7,000 capacity for the North stand seated is good. You'd like to think a stand that holds 10,000 would go on the other side. Another behind the goal but there should be a terrace kept at one end. First of all to maximise capacity but secondly to offer the fans who want to stand the chance to stand."
Same size stands on both sides, 7000 capacity each which bring honest I think is enough but I would agree I think one of the goal ends should be kept as a covered terrace, perhaps the O'Mahonys end would be best for this as it has a smaller footprint than the Hospital End

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3241 - 01/09/2018 19:12:14    2138210

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Replying To Richieq:  "Same size stands on both sides, 7000 capacity each which bring honest I think is enough but I would agree I think one of the goal ends should be kept as a covered terrace, perhaps the O'Mahonys end would be best for this as it has a smaller footprint than the Hospital End"
Funny I would cover the Hospital End. Reason, most of the rain and wind comes from either the west or the south west. So the rain for perhaps 75% of the time would not be blowing in on the punters.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 349 - 02/09/2018 18:49:13    2138460

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Replying To MillerX:  "Funny I would cover the Hospital End. Reason, most of the rain and wind comes from either the west or the south west. So the rain for perhaps 75% of the time would not be blowing in on the punters."
I would agree with you as it would be pointless and a waste of money to cover a stand that is subjected to the prevailing wind and rain. Furthermore to keep the playing surface in good condition I would cover neither ends.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 1872 - 03/09/2018 10:01:36    2138640

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Replying To MillerX:  "Funny I would cover the Hospital End. Reason, most of the rain and wind comes from either the west or the south west. So the rain for perhaps 75% of the time would not be blowing in on the punters."
I would agree with you as it would be pointless and a waste of money to cover a stand that is subjected to the prevailing wind and rain. Furthermore to keep the playing surface in good condition I would cover neither ends.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 1872 - 03/09/2018 10:03:42    2138644

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Replying To MillerX:  "Funny I would cover the Hospital End. Reason, most of the rain and wind comes from either the west or the south west. So the rain for perhaps 75% of the time would not be blowing in on the punters."
Whether standing or sitting both ends should be covered

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3241 - 03/09/2018 10:08:26    2138648

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If you have both sides covered it would be more than adequate -leave ends open. Any pitches with cover all the way around have problems with their playing surface especially in winter months regarding frost/sunlight etc.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 1872 - 03/09/2018 12:58:31    2138772

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I personally think that all sides should be covered. I do get that some pitch's struggle but this pitch/stadium is supposed to be to be a top set up with no expense spared or what's the point in doing half a job. So I would like to think that a water/sunlight system could be planned for like most top class stadia. And with regards to winter, how often is it used? O byrne cup and walsh cup? These games should be played at club grounds to benefit the clubs so the pitch should not have to deal with too much bar the weather.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 386 - 03/09/2018 13:53:03    2138798

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "I personally think that all sides should be covered. I do get that some pitch's struggle but this pitch/stadium is supposed to be to be a top set up with no expense spared or what's the point in doing half a job. So I would like to think that a water/sunlight system could be planned for like most top class stadia. And with regards to winter, how often is it used? O byrne cup and walsh cup? These games should be played at club grounds to benefit the clubs so the pitch should not have to deal with too much bar the weather."
I agree with you - there is no issue these days in terms of systems to provide water and sunlight! Also - I doubt the stands will be of a height that will block out the sun anyway!

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 03/09/2018 14:18:30    2138806

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In an ideal world we would knock the stand first and rebuild but I understand the rationale of getting rid of the terrace first - as it ensures there are seats in the venue if a game is being played. It will be a very small capacity if three sides of the ground are off limits to spectators.

49erroyal (Meath) - Posts: 44 - 03/09/2018 14:29:31    2138812

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "I personally think that all sides should be covered. I do get that some pitch's struggle but this pitch/stadium is supposed to be to be a top set up with no expense spared or what's the point in doing half a job. So I would like to think that a water/sunlight system could be planned for like most top class stadia. And with regards to winter, how often is it used? O byrne cup and walsh cup? These games should be played at club grounds to benefit the clubs so the pitch should not have to deal with too much bar the weather."
A good sprinkler system and translucent panellling in the roofs of the stands alleviates that issue, the whole idea here all along has been to build a "best in class" stadium. We see too many stadia developments in the GAA where covered accomodation should have been increased, Pairc Ui Chaoimh, Gaelic Grounds in Limerick, Semple Stadium, Breffni Park are prime examples. People want comfort at our grounds now and if we are spending millions then we should have cover on all
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Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3241 - 03/09/2018 17:26:47    2138893

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Of course we could cover everything no expenses spared!- Who will pay for it? and the biggest crowd in PT over the last 5 years was no more than 6k . Four covered stands would indeed facilitate everything. Sprinkler systems are never a problem, but frost and ice up to and into march may be more difficult to contend with when home league matches are being played. I too expect the development to be top class when finished, but 'comfort' is not on my agenda.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 1872 - 04/09/2018 10:07:49    2139061

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Replying To browncows:  "Of course we could cover everything no expenses spared!- Who will pay for it? and the biggest crowd in PT over the last 5 years was no more than 6k . Four covered stands would indeed facilitate everything. Sprinkler systems are never a problem, but frost and ice up to and into march may be more difficult to contend with when home league matches are being played. I too expect the development to be top class when finished, but 'comfort' is not on my agenda."
When I say comfort I mean being able to sit on a proper seat, being able to use modern and clean toilet facilities, being able to shelter well from the elements, being able to access a proper concessions area, being able to view a match unhindered by a steel pole. No one is looking for heated reclining seats to lie back on whilst a cumly wench serves drinks on a silver platter. There are plenty of funding avenues available as well as the fact that PT is going to be allocated more games, it's not just the attendance at Meath games this project is being built for, we want to see more weekends like in July when two qualifier games with big crowds were played in Navan, we want a venue capable and comfortable of holding concerts or other special events and hopefully we soon will have one

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3241 - 04/09/2018 11:10:01    2139084

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Replying To Richieq:  "When I say comfort I mean being able to sit on a proper seat, being able to use modern and clean toilet facilities, being able to shelter well from the elements, being able to access a proper concessions area, being able to view a match unhindered by a steel pole. No one is looking for heated reclining seats to lie back on whilst a cumly wench serves drinks on a silver platter. There are plenty of funding avenues available as well as the fact that PT is going to be allocated more games, it's not just the attendance at Meath games this project is being built for, we want to see more weekends like in July when two qualifier games with big crowds were played in Navan, we want a venue capable and comfortable of holding concerts or other special events and hopefully we soon will have one"
Haha!! No one is looking for heated reclining seats to lie back on whilst a cumly wench serves drinks on a silver platter. - you can but wish!!!
Seriously - good post - once the facilities are modern and kept well they will be more than welcomed. At the moment I bring my wife and family up to some of the club games and the toilet facilities are awful and the support poles block out a lot of the pitch! Navan would be a great location for neutral venue for a lot of counties!

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 39 - 04/09/2018 13:22:14    2139120

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