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Replying To srgt_slaughter:  "happened in meath in 2006 or 7 in the intermediate final with st ultans and cortown reaching the final both from the bohermeen parish and in 1996 in the junior final with meath hill and drumconrath both from the drumconrath parish. Think thats all from around meath but i stand to be corrected"
I dont think simonstown and O'Mahonys ever met in final have they? Met plenty of times in championship though.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/10/2016 09:07:12    1928787

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Replying To keeper7:  "A couple of years ago the 2 Mullingar town football teams, Shamrocks & St. Loman's, met in the Westmeath County Final. Their club grounds are almost beside each other on the Delvin road. In hurling, Turin, Cullion, Crookedwood & Clonkill are all in the same parish. The first 3 are intermediate clubs & would regularly have met in championship finals over the years."
This is a misconception. Cullion Pitch is in Mullingar Parish not Taughmon.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1016 - 25/10/2016 10:17:35    1928789

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Then it's a commonly-held misconception:

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"In north Westmeath the GAA hurling clubs were not based on a parish system. They emerged from a network of cricket clubs that did not follow the existing parish boundaries. This resulted in Taughmon parish playing host to all or part of four hurling clubs - Turin, Clonkill, Crookedwood and Cullion. There is a history of great rivalry between these clubs."

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 25/10/2016 10:49:53    1928793

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I dont think simonstown and O'Mahonys ever met in final have they? Met plenty of times in championship though.
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Never met in a senior county final except in a junior final I think. Simonstown are only senior from 1996 (won Intermediate in '95) and there is now two senior clubs in the parish along with one intermediate team -Bective

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 25/10/2016 10:55:41    1928796

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Athleague & Tremane from the same parish have met in several senior hurling finals in Roscommon, although last one was early 80's.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 25/10/2016 12:59:23    1928842

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Replying To keeper7:  "Then it's a commonly-held misconception:

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"In north Westmeath the GAA hurling clubs were not based on a parish system. They emerged from a network of cricket clubs that did not follow the existing parish boundaries. This resulted in Taughmon parish playing host to all or part of four hurling clubs - Turin, Clonkill, Crookedwood and Cullion. There is a history of great rivalry between these clubs.""
Yes it says "all or part "which leads to this myth which sounds great about the 4 clubs in one parish. Some of its area for drawing players is in Taughmon but not much.
The Cullion Hurling Club pitch is in Mullingar parish without doubt. Maybe some of its players are from elsewhere but that goes for every Hurling club in the county.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1016 - 25/10/2016 13:31:31    1928851

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Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "This is a misconception. Cullion Pitch is in Mullingar Parish not Taughmon."
Cullion is further out though, Oliver plunkets is in town, but cullion is out by grave yard and by rail line and lake.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 25/10/2016 13:51:14    1928857

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Jack Sparrow,

"The Cullion Hurling Club pitch is in Mullingar parish without doubt."

I'm not so sure about that as it's a couple of miles out the road. Maybe it wasn't their original pitch?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 25/10/2016 15:20:51    1928894

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Replying To keeper7:  "Jack Sparrow,

"The Cullion Hurling Club pitch is in Mullingar parish without doubt."

I'm not so sure about that as it's a couple of miles out the road. Maybe it wasn't their original pitch?"
Perhaps they played in another pitch prior to the eighties that's when I started playing. Cullion was actually the first pitch I can remember playing a game of Hurling in . I'm showing my age now.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1016 - 25/10/2016 15:33:20    1928899

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Cullion is further out though, Oliver plunkets is in town, but cullion is out by grave yard and by rail line and lake."
Mullingar parish goes out the main road and meets Multyfarnham parish near the diving board. Taughmon is a bit north of the N4. Anyway this is all a bit parochial for the main board!

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1016 - 25/10/2016 15:38:12    1928903

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That's a very interesting link by the way keeper.I hadn't seen it before

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1016 - 25/10/2016 16:04:23    1928910

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Many parishes are split by county boundaries. Consequently teams from the same parish compete in different counts. I don't know if such teams ever met in club provential competition.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 25/10/2016 19:24:52    1928980

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Replying To keeper7:  "A couple of years ago the 2 Mullingar town football teams, Shamrocks & St. Loman's, met in the Westmeath County Final. Their club grounds are almost beside each other on the Delvin road. In hurling, Turin, Cullion, Crookedwood & Clonkill are all in the same parish. The first 3 are intermediate clubs & would regularly have met in championship finals over the years."
Mullingar Shamrocks and St.Lomans have never met in a county senior final. They've met in 4 semis since 2011 and a couple in the 90's. Lomans won last year with Shamrocks winning all the rest.
There is no parish rule in Westmeath so it's a complete free for all. The minor final this Sunday between The Downs and Shandonagh will feature many players from Mullingar town, even though their clubs are both on the periphery.

Andy_Capp (Westmeath) - Posts: 282 - 29/10/2016 12:01:18    1929999

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Clearly no shortage of examples of clubs from the same parish meeting in county finals but have two from the same parish ever met in provincial club championship?

I recall that about 10 years ago Rathvilly were in the Carlow final and Kiltegan were in the Wicklow final. Both are in the same parish, but different counties obviously but as it happened that year the draw for the Leinster club championship had put the Carlow and Wicklow champions together in round one. As it happened Kiltegan lost the Wicklow final so it never came to pass but there was a lot of talk at the time before both county finals about the potential for what it was assumed would have been a unique clash.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1412 - 29/10/2016 12:43:15    1930005

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Replying To Onion Breath:  "Clearly no shortage of examples of clubs from the same parish meeting in county finals but have two from the same parish ever met in provincial club championship?

I recall that about 10 years ago Rathvilly were in the Carlow final and Kiltegan were in the Wicklow final. Both are in the same parish, but different counties obviously but as it happened that year the draw for the Leinster club championship had put the Carlow and Wicklow champions together in round one. As it happened Kiltegan lost the Wicklow final so it never came to pass but there was a lot of talk at the time before both county finals about the potential for what it was assumed would have been a unique clash."
Not technically the same parish, but Garrycastle and St.Brigid's met in an all-Ireland semi in 2012. Their catchment areas are only separated by the Shannon

Andy_Capp (Westmeath) - Posts: 282 - 29/10/2016 13:22:35    1930011

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Replying To neverright:  "Many parishes are split by county boundaries. Consequently teams from the same parish compete in different counts. I don't know if such teams ever met in club provential competition."
Are there many examples of this? Mullinalaghta/Gowna parish is separated by county & provincial boundaries.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 29/10/2016 16:20:43    1930050

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Replying To Suas Sios:  "Yea, Sarsfields, Rossa and St.Pauls all directly beside each other."
More or less share a car park I think!

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 29/10/2016 17:15:19    1930059

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Replying To keeper7:  "Isn't Clonlara also in the same parish as Ballyea?"
Nah keeper, miles apart. Clonlara is on the Parteen weir, between Killaloe and Limerick city.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 29/10/2016 17:18:25    1930061

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It's amazing that parishes especially rural parishes can have 2 clubs operating, a big problem facing some clubs and parishes is numbers and a lot sadly have to amalgamate, where years ago you would never dream of playing or helping out your sworn enemy in the next parish now you have no choice but to join forces to survive, the older generations may hate this but for our youth they accept it easily enough. If you can field 2 clubs in 1 parish the best of luck to ye and hope ye can build stronger for years to come

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 29/10/2016 19:58:54    1930082

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