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2017- Challengers to the 'Big 5'

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Replying To ulster83:  "Still think most people will fancy Tyrone for All ireland in 2017 with Dublin Tiring, Tyrone will be majority of country's bet to dominate for next few years"
If "most people" fancy Tyrone for the All Ireland title in 2017, how come they're fourth favourites with the bookies, a fair bit outside the joint second favourites of Kerry and Mayo?

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 18/10/2016 15:09:51    1927279

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Replying To himachechy:  "Admire your confidence. I wouldn't be so sure of an AI for Tyrone unless they unearth some better inside forwards. Cavanagh's ability to play will also be critical (another year in the legs, maybe more injury prone). I think Tyrone and Mayo are similar in that they don't have enough top class forwards. Top teams definitely, but I'd still fancy Kerry to come through the pack, simply because of their scoring ability.

...and you never know... if Donegal actually start using our forwards properly, we could give anyone a run"
I'd really like to be proven wrong about Tyrone, I like them and would love to see them back at the top table.

I think both they and Donegal have to be more proactive in their approach now though. Dublin, Kerry, Mayo are not as naive as they were and are more capable of beating defensive counter-attacking teams.

When Donegal take the game to their opposition they can play some really great stuff. Fast moving incisive hand passing, first hard to defend against even with a packed defence.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4232 - 18/10/2016 15:26:46    1927291

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Replying To ulster83:  "roscommon would not have better players than Cavan. Would be really concerned this year in division 1 about Roscommon they are on course to ship some MASSIVE defeats. Think Joe Brolly was right about them even though i dont agree with him much. Also Roscommons treatment of Fergal O Donnell was appaling"
You come from a county that has continued to treat it far most successful manager badly so I won't take any advise from you. If cavan have better players then us why have roscommon gone up to breffni park and easily beaten cavan in the championship in 14 and 15.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 18/10/2016 15:28:31    1927292

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Replying To ROS1:  "You come from a county that has continued to treat it far most successful manager badly so I won't take any advise from you. If cavan have better players then us why have roscommon gone up to breffni park and easily beaten cavan in the championship in 14 and 15."
In 14 we were crap, in 15 we played full second half with 14 men and should have won.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 884 - 18/10/2016 15:43:31    1927297

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Replying To ROS1:  "You come from a county that has continued to treat it far most successful manager badly so I won't take any advise from you. If cavan have better players then us why have roscommon gone up to breffni park and easily beaten cavan in the championship in 14 and 15."
You come from a county that ranks joint third in its province in terms of best teams along with Sligo and Leitrim.
14 and 15 is gone, you are not even a top 12 team i would really worry for Roscommon this year.
Apparently a lot of Roscommon players set to leave the panel seems to be a real bad place ATM

ulster83 (Tyrone) - Posts: 114 - 18/10/2016 15:57:36    1927306

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Replying To blueman1903:  "In 14 we were crap, in 15 we played full second half with 14 men and should have won."
Cavan is a county i like to see doing well but yee were beaten out the gate in 15

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 18/10/2016 18:44:38    1927364

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Replying To ulster83:  "You come from a county that ranks joint third in its province in terms of best teams along with Sligo and Leitrim.
14 and 15 is gone, you are not even a top 12 team i would really worry for Roscommon this year.
Apparently a lot of Roscommon players set to leave the panel seems to be a real bad place ATM"
Lol your bizarre sense of delusion is spreading from tryone to roscommon, mayo and monaghan. I am sure leitrim would be delighted to be seen on the same level as sligo never mind roscommon. We will be ok thanks and if i were you i would be more worried trying to find a good forward in tryone.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 18/10/2016 18:52:58    1927366

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Replying To ulster83:  "You come from a county that ranks joint third in its province in terms of best teams along with Sligo and Leitrim.
14 and 15 is gone, you are not even a top 12 team i would really worry for Roscommon this year.
Apparently a lot of Roscommon players set to leave the panel seems to be a real bad place ATM"
Thanks for your concerns for the Rossies.We'll be okay I think.2017 could be a good one.Btw, how's Niall Morgan's free taking coming along.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2169 - 18/10/2016 19:15:23    1927377

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Ild like to officially rank us 33rd
We might go off 5 and 6 to 1 every match and maybe even 20s in the first game against the mighty red hand and 50s against the rhubarbs were Ild say your really from ulster83 but at the end of the day you can be rated 2nd to 33rd there's still only question team bringing home Sam and it won't be any of us 3

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1764 - 18/10/2016 20:28:41    1927395

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Replying To ROS1:  "Cavan is a county i like to see doing well but yee were beaten out the gate in 15"
In the end, yeah but the sending off changed the game.

Anyway, that's 2015 and we have ye in the last game of the league this year. Probably fair to assume the loser will be doing well not to get relegated. I think the winner will stay up tho unless McManus rediscovers his 2015 form for Monaghan.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5016 - 19/10/2016 13:06:54    1927551

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Replying To ROS1:  "Lol your bizarre sense of delusion is spreading from tryone to roscommon, mayo and monaghan. I am sure leitrim would be delighted to be seen on the same level as sligo never mind roscommon. We will be ok thanks and if i were you i would be more worried trying to find a good forward in tryone."
We'll swap you a win against us in the past 13 years for Donie Shine ;-)

Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 19/10/2016 14:22:41    1927596

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