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Sorry if you thought that's what I meant, I think he did the right thing. It didn't pan out but it was a positive move. Do you really want to hear a fan of another county come out with something like "they just don't have the talent to win and All Ireland" Look it's great that you're all romantic about the Mayo servants and everything but a great player doesn't necessarily make a great manager, I don't think they did a good job. Gaelic football is now a bottom line business, the Mayo players are the ones working their back sides off to win an All Ireland so they're the group that should decide who their manager is, if they don't believe in their management what chance do they have? Don't know what you're talking with this imaginary scenario of winning in extra time, the free wasn't even at the death. Dublin had time to go down and have a shot if they had wanted, they had a long range free which looked scoreable for Cluxton they just ran down the clock with it. In the same way no one would feel sorry for Tyrone and Cavanagh after the quarter final I find it hard to feel sorry for Keegan, I feel he got what he deserved in the end up, it's not to say the incident is no where near a black it could easily be interpreted as one Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 05/10/2016 19:38:50 1923007 Link 0 |
Tyrone should have won the quarter final but were too defensive I think this is why they want to move away from Harte too and try something different Scarabin (Dublin) - Posts: 116 - 06/10/2016 13:09:57 1923235 Link 1 |
If things work out as expected, you'll more than likely have Mayo and Kerry both winning their provinces and their respective quarter finals meaning that they're headed for a semi final match. If this is the match up, then this could make or break this Mayo panel. If they were to finally beat Kerry, get that mental breakthrough then I think they march into the All Ireland final and win it keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 06/10/2016 13:45:09 1923267 Link 0 |
You're 100% right there, we won all Irelands being ruthless and driving on, against Mayo we tried to sit on every lead we had for some reason. It gets more annoying the further we get away from it to be honest!
Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 06/10/2016 13:46:32 1923269 Link 0 |
Galway didn't beat Mayo in the Connaught final this year. Maybe you're mixing it up with 2009? browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 06/10/2016 17:27:43 1923424 Link 0 |
Ah here lad... Goodwill from officials would have had Diarmuid Connolly and John Small watching that final from the sidelines.
roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 06/10/2016 17:39:51 1923429 Link 0 |
Yeah, getting enough time as a manager is crucial. It takes some manager to win an all Ireland in your first season. Rochford will learn loads after this season. The lack of transparency in the appointment of Connelly and Holmes was the big problem. That was a terrible starting point for Mayo. Rochford has sorted out the Mayo defence that cost them big time through the concession of bad goals. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 06/10/2016 18:01:44 1923432 Link 0 |
Quote 'Rochford has sorted out the Mayo defence that cost them big time through the concession of bad goals'. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 06/10/2016 20:09:32 1923478 Link 0 |
We aren't letting them in to score them instead we score them or we literally hand the band to the man to score, not fully sorted but a start
Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 06/10/2016 21:38:25 1923517 Link 0 |
If we beat Kerry in a semi final we have either won the all Ireland or lost by a point (possibly should have won as well)
Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 06/10/2016 21:40:17 1923519 Link 0 |
Beating the current Kerry team means nothing in terms of winning an AI, unless it's a final HurlingWarrior (Limerick) - Posts: 61 - 06/10/2016 22:33:55 1923544 Link 0 |
While acknowledging the question posed to kick off this thread is aimed at Mayo supporters, my answer if I were one of them would be no. facethepuckout (Roscommon) - Posts: 214 - 06/10/2016 22:57:18 1923555 Link 0 |
It would mean something significant to Mayo given that we haven beaten them in championship action since 1996, and would probably lay the scandal of Limerick to rest into the bargain.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 06/10/2016 23:06:07 1923560 Link 1 |
"Working & business world", "investment", you sound like someone from the bank, hmm. This Mayo team weren't created overnight by Rochford & the facts are that he did no better than Horan, Holmes & Conneelly. In fact under Rochford most neutrals would say that Mayo had their greatest ever opportunity to win an All Ireland & a monumental error by Rochford was a major factor in deciding the game. In most counties & sports that error would most certainly lead to a debate on his management at the very least. James Horan moulded this team not Rochford & if Mayo want to get over the line they should bring Horan back in as an advisor who has now had the benefit of managing & now analysing them from the sideline. Holmes & Conneelly showed class in resigning with dignity & were great servants to their county. It's laughable to listen to their contribution & that of Horans being dismissed as if Rochford has made Mayo into the top 2 in the country. Honeymoon is over now it's sh#t or bust next year.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 07/10/2016 09:39:30 1923609 Link 0 |
But unless it's a final, you are hardly going to be telling the grandkids about a win over Kerry? Grandad : Liitle Johnny tell me about the day we beats Kerry 35 years ago......... Little Johnny; Ok did we got a trophy for that? Did we win the AI? Grandad : No, young man it was a semi-final Little Johnny; So did we win the final grandad? Grandad: No we lost the final to Dublin who went on to win the next couple of AI's in a row as part of Dublin first 5-in-a-row. Little Johnny; Ah shucks , so when is the last time we won the AI , what was it like? Grandad: I'm afraid I've never seen Mayo win an AI, it was before my time in 1951 which is over a hundred years ago now. See what I mean, I don't see that hypothetical conversation happening HurlingWarrior (Limerick) - Posts: 61 - 07/10/2016 13:15:24 1923727 Link 1 |
They're really not number 2 We base eras in the GAA on decades. In this decade we have 4 AI winners none of which are called Mayo. That's 4 teams in Cork, Kerry, Dublin and Donegal who have all taken their chances I mean apart from Kerry and Dublin most teams seem to have a slight lul after winning the AI, Donegal for example have lost their Manager and Leader, Cork were from the last decade but still got to stumble over the line with Sam eventually. Kerry came out and beat the highly fancied Donegal team of 2014 doing whatever they needed to do to win. Mayo went to 2 finals against a great Kerry team last decade, this Mayo team has been to 3 against 2 different great teams. There's a difference but there's really not that big a difference. You can't compare a team who won Sam with one won didn't and there are no prizes for consistent losing ! Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 07/10/2016 13:53:10 1923753 Link 0 |
The thing is with mayo is that it seems to be sh## or bust every year!
unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 07/10/2016 14:13:38 1923768 Link 0 |