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Rob Hennelly, I'm still proud of him, always will be

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Replying To jimbodub: "Just watched the highlights on TG4 Hennelly looked happy to go off after seeing black, almost relieved." I saw it back on the player. Didn't protest, glad to be getting out of there. Hard to blame him. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 03/10/2016 21:38:13 1922140 Link
Now I didn't see this in the drawn game but Peter Canavan said on Matt Cooper this evening that Rob Hennelly was being warmed up with 10 mins to go in the drawn game to maybe come on for Clarke maybe because of the kickouts maybe because Rochford expected a long range free that Hennelly could chance to take, now if this idea is true then maybe the switch isn't as stupid as we all think, I think the switch should have been made at halftime in the replay riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 03/10/2016 22:32:38 1922164 Link
Of the many giving opinions here about RH How many have played in goals Forwards makes a mistake midfield and defenders are there midfielders have defenders and defenders have the goalie The only thing the goalie has is the friggin net I was never an Inter County goalie but played right up through senior championship level Just remember the saying You don't need to be nuts to be a goalie but it helps Rob is one of the best goalies in the country he'll be back We are lucky in Mayo to have a slew of great goalies Here's to 2017 cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 03/10/2016 22:49:13 1922170 Link
Replying To riverboys: "Now I didn't see this in the drawn game but Peter Canavan said on Matt Cooper this evening that Rob Hennelly was being warmed up with 10 mins to go in the drawn game to maybe come on for Clarke maybe because of the kickouts maybe because Rochford expected a long range free that Hennelly could chance to take, now if this idea is true then maybe the switch isn't as stupid as we all think, I think the switch should have been made at halftime in the replay" That was apparently in case they got a long range free. Totally different scenario. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7902 - 03/10/2016 23:01:42 1922176 Link
I'm starting to wonder was this Rochford's decision alone or was he influenced by his back room or even the players. If it was his call, he'll be damned for a long time if Mayo don't immediately bounce back. And I wouldn't rule them out. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8592 - 04/10/2016 00:59:05 1922193 Link
Can't understand when most of the talk is about Rob Hennelly, with Cillian o'Connors miss on his own side with a chance of equalising, underage you always told never kick wide on your own side, Imagine If that happened at a underage game ? kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 04/10/2016 08:47:12 1922209 Link
Replying To moc.dna: "Nonsense, Clarke only had 3 stray lockouts in the first game, he made a string of great saves that kept Mayo in the game. Of the 3 stray lockouts one of them was to a defender that turned his back to the ball losing sight of it. Cluxton had 3 stray lockouts y'day do its not unusual. When Clarke came on in the replay he kicked 7 from 7 lockouts. Hennellys stats were 13 from 20 & conceding s penalty from s routine catch. No Clarke is blameless as is Hennelly in my opinion as it was Rochford who made the call. I can't recall a keeper been changed before an All Ireland final for tactical purposes only. The fact is Rochford must take total responsibility for this & his actions lost Mayo this final." He had three stray in a 2 minute period in the second half alone. In the first half around the 20 minute mark he hit two bad ones in a row. His kickouts weren't all that great and had more than 3 bad ones. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 04/10/2016 09:48:19 1922223 Link
Replying To realdub: "I'm starting to wonder was this Rochford's decision alone or was he influenced by his back room or even the players. If it was his call, he'll be damned for a long time if Mayo don't immediately bounce back. And I wouldn't rule them out." I was listening to David Brady on Newstalk after the drawn match, and he was saying that teams have to do something different in a replay, something radical, they can't go out and do the same thing again, and he cited Brian Cody giving Walter Walsh his Kilkenny debut in the 2012 hurling replay, and Walter went on to win MOTM. I'm not suggesting the Mayo management team were listening to Brady or going by his advice, but I'm wondering if they were of the same mind - "let's do something radical for the replay". And boy, did it backfire. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 04/10/2016 09:52:42 1922225 Link
Bernard Flynn was on 2fm last night and was fairly adamant that it was the Mayo players who influenced that decision. He said his source was someone close to the Mayo camp. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 04/10/2016 10:02:46 1922231 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "He had three stray in a 2 minute period in the second half alone. In the first half around the 20 minute mark he hit two bad ones in a row. His kickouts weren't all that great and had more than 3 bad ones." You can pick and choose if you want. Overall his kickout stats were superb, including when he came on yesterday. Highlighting a few kickouts is one thing, but forgetting why Hennelly was dropped in the first place is another. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7902 - 04/10/2016 10:14:57 1922238 Link
Replying To kerryluck: "Can't understand when most of the talk is about Rob Hennelly, with Cillian o'Connors miss on his own side with a chance of equalising, underage you always told never kick wide on your own side, Imagine If that happened at a underage game ?" Laughable post. Literally. Come back to me when you have to kick that free in front of 82000 people when your legs have nothing left. What you were told in underage, get a grip good lad. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7902 - 04/10/2016 10:18:35 1922240 Link
Replying To kerryluck: "Can't understand when most of the talk is about Rob Hennelly, with Cillian o'Connors miss on his own side with a chance of equalising, underage you always told never kick wide on your own side, Imagine If that happened at a underage game ?" I'd say everyone knows I'm not a fan of CO'C at this stage but this is nonsense Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 04/10/2016 10:26:48 1922245 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "You can pick and choose if you want. Overall his kickout stats were superb, including when he came on yesterday. Highlighting a few kickouts is one thing, but forgetting why Hennelly was dropped in the first place is another." Clarkes kickouts when he came on were great. I'm not disputing that. In the first game I wasn't impressed with his kickouts. 20 minutes into the game I text a mate and said that Clarkes kickouts were going to hang Mayo and they did in the last 10 minutes. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 04/10/2016 10:38:08 1922258 Link
As a Mayo Fan who has has not missed a league or championship match since the early 90's I have far more sympathy for Clarke than I do for Hennelly. Clarke was favourite to win an all star before last Saturday. He has been superb all year and got the team to the final. I believe that certain players were pushing to have Hennelly starting and management gave into them. It is not the first time in his career that Hennelly has cost Mayo a big game. I fear we have lost Clarke as a result of the way he was treated last weekend. Management will probably now have to look for 2 new goalkeepers next year. Mfs (Mayo) - Posts: 251 - 04/10/2016 11:35:12 1922297 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "Bernard Flynn was on 2fm last night and was fairly adamant that it was the Mayo players who influenced that decision. He said his source was someone close to the Mayo camp." Wouldn't surprise me. I know these rumours can be much-ado-about-nothing a lot of the time, but I heard from a MAyo man earlier in the year that a walk-out was threatened if a certain player was dropped. He just so happens to play for the same club as Hennelly cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 04/10/2016 12:03:32 1922317 Link
Replying To Mfs: "As a Mayo Fan who has has not missed a league or championship match since the early 90's I have far more sympathy for Clarke than I do for Hennelly. Clarke was favourite to win an all star before last Saturday. He has been superb all year and got the team to the final. I believe that certain players were pushing to have Hennelly starting and management gave into them. It is not the first time in his career that Hennelly has cost Mayo a big game. I fear we have lost Clarke as a result of the way he was treated last weekend. Management will probably now have to look for 2 new goalkeepers next year." Has Clarke retired ? I think he was extremely hard done by, over 5 decades of going to games I can never recall a keeper been dropped in the week of an All Ireland final for tactical purposes only. When he came in after the Galway game he made some great saves in the qualifiers & semi & final. When Mayo were jittery in those games his experience & calm demeanour settled the team. He made very few mistakes & certainly no howlers like Hennelly did v Galway & in the replay. He came on in the replay & nearly got to a very well taken penalty. He had 7 from 7 successful kickouts & despite his obvious hurt at being dropped, got on with the game which showed the class of the man. It is widely acknowledged as the most bizzare decision ever. Clarke if he has retired has retired having been a great servant to Mayo & deserving of a better ending than this. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 04/10/2016 12:07:31 1922319 Link
Replying To moc.dna: "Has Clarke retired ? I think he was extremely hard done by, over 5 decades of going to games I can never recall a keeper been dropped in the week of an All Ireland final for tactical purposes only. When he came in after the Galway game he made some great saves in the qualifiers & semi & final. When Mayo were jittery in those games his experience & calm demeanour settled the team. He made very few mistakes & certainly no howlers like Hennelly did v Galway & in the replay. He came on in the replay & nearly got to a very well taken penalty. He had 7 from 7 successful kickouts & despite his obvious hurt at being dropped, got on with the game which showed the class of the man. It is widely acknowledged as the most bizzare decision ever. Clarke if he has retired has retired having been a great servant to Mayo & deserving of a better ending than this." While I do feel sorry for Rob I think it's a ruthless game. My honest opinions is that after that performance he should be dropped from the panel. He has failed in the big stage too many times and there is no room for sympathy in all Ireland finals. Did anyone else think it was bizarre that he posted a picture of himself getting sent off on instagram with his statement? I would commend Rob on his commitment over the past few years. I also know he has been involved in mental health campaigns which is admirable. Regarding the rumours about players having influence over the team. Last year I dismissed these things as just rumours and the next thing the management was tossed out. I find it hard to dismiss them completely this time around. nextyear (Mayo) - Posts: 60 - 04/10/2016 14:15:07 1922388 Link
moc.dna - Clarke has said nothing he is not the type for coming out making statements and looking for attention. Nextyear - I fully agree Mayo cannot afford to give Hennelly any more chances. It would take a very brave manager to ever start him for Mayo again. Mfs (Mayo) - Posts: 251 - 04/10/2016 15:07:06 1922422 Link
Replying To Pericles: "Riverboys, I don't disagree with what you wrote about Rob putting this behind him, but one or two details need to be answered. The ball in was actually quite a poor one... an understruck shot I think, if not a fairly badly placed high ball not close to any Dublin player. Paddy Durcan was the defender coming in, and he did the right thing by moving to cover the flight of the ball, in case it slipped past Rob. Neither of the two had allowed for the ball hitting the keeper in the face and landing right in Paddy Andrews hands. It was all split second, just one of those things, a lucky break for the Dubs and unfortunate for us. If it never happened we may or may not have won the game... it would have stayed tight and could have hinged on a different break. That's sport, we enjoy it, but it can be cruel." If it never happened we may or may not have won the game... it would have stayed tight and could have hinged on a different break. 100% true. God knows what else would have happened, could have been a last minute howler from Andy Moran and he'd be the one being discussed. Regardless of what peoples opinions are he never went out to make a mistake. it could have been anyone. he seems like a good honest decent fella away from football and at the end of the day thats the most important thing. Thats sport. it was a two horse race....someone has to lose. just to give my tuppance worth. I'd absolutely love to have see Mayo win. what an occasion that would be!! but after weighing it all up over the last couple of days i fell dublin really were just about a smidgen a better team. A point the better team as it transpired. theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 04/10/2016 16:10:16 1922461 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "Bernard Flynn was on 2fm last night and was fairly adamant that it was the Mayo players who influenced that decision. He said his source was someone close to the Mayo camp." maybe there is something to that and sounds very petty and stupid if true and one of the reasons why mayo always shoot themselves in the foot somehow alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 04/10/2016 19:31:27 1922571 Link