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Odd alright But hey each to their own jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/10/2016 16:26:08 1922002 Link 0 |
You are being generous to Rochford describing the kickouts from the first game as a problem. Remember Hennelly had a nightmare against Galway this year and against Dublin last year in the replay. His kickouts are hit and miss as the stats prove.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7902 - 03/10/2016 16:43:00 1922013 Link 1 |
clarkes kickouts werent that bad the first day and he performed well otherwise....why are you trying to absolve rochford of any blame?...he tried to be clever and got caught out
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 03/10/2016 17:02:28 1922025 Link 3 |
Not sure how true this is but just heard David Clarke has retired. A big loss if it's true but hard to blame him. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 03/10/2016 18:01:32 1922049 Link 0 |
Clarke obviously peed off with management, crazy decision to walk away from this Mayo team. There very close and if they win it next year how sick would Clarke be if he wasn't involved. I'd be shocked if anyone else from Mayo retires. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/10/2016 18:26:41 1922062 Link 0 |
Riverboys, I don't disagree with what you wrote about Rob putting this behind him, but one or two details need to be answered. The ball in was actually quite a poor one... an understruck shot I think, if not a fairly badly placed high ball not close to any Dublin player. Paddy Durcan was the defender coming in, and he did the right thing by moving to cover the flight of the ball, in case it slipped past Rob. Neither of the two had allowed for the ball hitting the keeper in the face and landing right in Paddy Andrews hands. It was all split second, just one of those things, a lucky break for the Dubs and unfortunate for us. If it never happened we may or may not have won the game... it would have stayed tight and could have hinged on a different break. That's sport, we enjoy it, but it can be cruel.
Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 03/10/2016 18:31:19 1922063 Link 1 |
Nonsense, Clarke only had 3 stray lockouts in the first game, he made a string of great saves that kept Mayo in the game. Of the 3 stray lockouts one of them was to a defender that turned his back to the ball losing sight of it. Cluxton had 3 stray lockouts y'day do its not unusual. When Clarke came on in the replay he kicked 7 from 7 lockouts. Hennellys stats were 13 from 20 & conceding s penalty from s routine catch. No Clarke is blameless as is Hennelly in my opinion as it was Rochford who made the call. I can't recall a keeper been changed before an All Ireland final for tactical purposes only. The fact is Rochford must take total responsibility for this & his actions lost Mayo this final.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 03/10/2016 18:42:12 1922065 Link 0 |
It's easy to be wise after the event. No one knows for sure that Mayo would have won if Clarke was in goals. I am sure that if Mayo were a couple of points clear with five minutes to go Dublin would have put in a big finish like they did against Kerry. Anything could have happened but we will never know now. Dublin are champs for 2016 and in my opinion they deserve to be. GreenMan (Offaly) - Posts: 38 - 03/10/2016 18:48:55 1922068 Link 2 |
rochford brought mayo exactly were they expected to be...not saying he did a bad job or anything just disagree with notion he did anything out of the ordinary
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 03/10/2016 18:53:03 1922071 Link 0 |
Rochford brought you no further than Connelly & Holmes.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 03/10/2016 18:55:53 1922072 Link 0 |
Lads to give Rochford credit where it is due we were superb defensively in the later stages of the championship. Look at that the Dublin starting forwards scored from play in both games. It was a superb defensive display. To say Rochford did nothing more than the lads last year is wrong. However the keeper call is something he will never be able to explain, it was bullshit. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7902 - 03/10/2016 19:22:39 1922078 Link 0 |
Get back up on the saddle Rob. All real mayo and gaa fans behind you
liner (Mayo) - Posts: 756 - 03/10/2016 19:27:13 1922082 Link 0 |
Didn't see that game. Were they that bad?
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 03/10/2016 19:36:48 1922086 Link 0 |
i agree they looked better at the back but the point still stands that mayo got to exactly they were supposed to be
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 03/10/2016 20:33:05 1922103 Link 0 |
Henelly was on the panel so obviously he brought something to the team or he wouldn't be there. Unfortunately history will show his mistakes which { may have } cost Mayo an AI. At the end of the day he is an amateur player and should be treated as one with the respect that all amateur players deserve. The games over and only the Mayo management can say why they made the call. Having said that, Mayo only lost by 1 single point. bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 03/10/2016 21:04:39 1922114 Link 0 |
Just watched the highlights on TG4 jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/10/2016 21:14:20 1922118 Link 2 |
Yeah tough on the lad but the fault is with Rochford, selecting him upset the defense and this put Hennelly under pressure to sort of justify his selection, even at a subconscious level, bad mental fart by Rochford probably cost Mayo this All Ireland.
El_Torro (Tyrone) - Posts: 155 - 03/10/2016 21:17:01 1922121 Link 0 |
If the Clarke rumour is true and the other rumour about the players having a say in Hennelly getting Clarkes place.. Would it be any wonder he wants to leave! You wouldn't think much of your "team mates" jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/10/2016 21:17:53 1922122 Link 1 |
Best of luck to Robbie,he near broke my heart watching him at the end. I hope he can pick himself up and come back. It'll take a while to get over it but Donegals Durcan overcame and so can Robbie. Good luck Robbie. seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 03/10/2016 21:22:55 1922126 Link 0 |
We lost the final in a replay to a very good Dublin side. He has made our defence a whole lot better. We need improving/strengthening up front and in midfield. We lost 7 finals trying to play ball, naive at times. Something had to change. Harrison and Durcan were a big improvement. Dropping Clarke was a mistake, no guarantees we would have won had he started. It takes balls to make a call like that and it did backfire but not worth letting a good manager go for that. Under Connelly and Holmes our defence collapsed in the replay last year. We lost this replay by not taking chances in second half. Dublin were clinical when they had the ball in the scoring area, we passed responsibility back and forth when we got to the Hill end of the pitch. We'll learn from it, from our own mistakes and by watching how Dublin are clinical in front of goal. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 03/10/2016 21:25:47 1922128 Link 1 |