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Rob Hennelly, I'm still proud of him, always will be

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Replying To Victorious87:  "On instagram, the qoutes from the homepage are from the instagram post"
Odd alright

But hey each to their own

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/10/2016 16:26:08    1922002

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Cluxton has had a horrible year, he was great in the second half on saturday but any other game i've seen him in he has been very poor. In hindsight Clarke being dropped was a bad decision. Rochford made a call to try and rectify a problem from the first game, it backfired."
You are being generous to Rochford describing the kickouts from the first game as a problem. Remember Hennelly had a nightmare against Galway this year and against Dublin last year in the replay. His kickouts are hit and miss as the stats prove.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7902 - 03/10/2016 16:43:00    1922013

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Major decision to change Brogan, MCMC as well. Neither of those changes worked well but I don't see Gavin getting blamed for them. Rochford made a decision he thought was the right one. If Clarkes kickouts were better the first day Mayo would have won. Rochford tried to change it, it backfired."
clarkes kickouts werent that bad the first day and he performed well otherwise....why are you trying to absolve rochford of any blame?...he tried to be clever and got caught out

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 03/10/2016 17:02:28    1922025

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Not sure how true this is but just heard David Clarke has retired. A big loss if it's true but hard to blame him.

I feel sorry for Rob Hennelly. An inexplicable gamble that backfired for Rochford and poor Rob is the guy who has suffered most. Rochford brought us a long way in year one. Definitely has to stay on for 2017.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 03/10/2016 18:01:32    1922049

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Clarke obviously peed off with management, crazy decision to walk away from this Mayo team. There very close and if they win it next year how sick would Clarke be if he wasn't involved. I'd be shocked if anyone else from Mayo retires.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/10/2016 18:26:41    1922062

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Replying To riverboys:  "The media are blaming Hennelly but I would ask the question who was marking the Dublin player that kicked the high ball on top of the goalie, why wasn't that ball blocked instead of allowing the kick, how come the Dublin player that won the penalty was unmarked, the Mayo defender was 10 yards away from him, I would ask why Mayo had 6 or 7 players on the pitch that had a poor performance, they aren't getting an earful from people, rumours in the county is players called the shots before the game and wanted that goalie on, the same story was around before the Galway game and Mayo played poorly, ifs buts and maybes will drive you daft. The best thing Rob Hennelly can do is to tog out for his club Breaffy next Saturday and drive his team forward and put in a man of the match performance between the sticks and try to bury the memory of this game and move forward. His message for the Cork U21 goalie last April/ May was fantastic, time for all of us to do likewise and put this game behind us and support him in whatever he does in the future"
Riverboys, I don't disagree with what you wrote about Rob putting this behind him, but one or two details need to be answered. The ball in was actually quite a poor one... an understruck shot I think, if not a fairly badly placed high ball not close to any Dublin player. Paddy Durcan was the defender coming in, and he did the right thing by moving to cover the flight of the ball, in case it slipped past Rob. Neither of the two had allowed for the ball hitting the keeper in the face and landing right in Paddy Andrews hands. It was all split second, just one of those things, a lucky break for the Dubs and unfortunate for us. If it never happened we may or may not have won the game... it would have stayed tight and could have hinged on a different break. That's sport, we enjoy it, but it can be cruel.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 03/10/2016 18:31:19    1922063

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Major decision to change Brogan, MCMC as well. Neither of those changes worked well but I don't see Gavin getting blamed for them. Rochford made a decision he thought was the right one. If Clarkes kickouts were better the first day Mayo would have won. Rochford tried to change it, it backfired."
Nonsense, Clarke only had 3 stray lockouts in the first game, he made a string of great saves that kept Mayo in the game. Of the 3 stray lockouts one of them was to a defender that turned his back to the ball losing sight of it. Cluxton had 3 stray lockouts y'day do its not unusual. When Clarke came on in the replay he kicked 7 from 7 lockouts. Hennellys stats were 13 from 20 & conceding s penalty from s routine catch. No Clarke is blameless as is Hennelly in my opinion as it was Rochford who made the call. I can't recall a keeper been changed before an All Ireland final for tactical purposes only. The fact is Rochford must take total responsibility for this & his actions lost Mayo this final.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 03/10/2016 18:42:12    1922065

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It's easy to be wise after the event. No one knows for sure that Mayo would have won if Clarke was in goals. I am sure that if Mayo were a couple of points clear with five minutes to go Dublin would have put in a big finish like they did against Kerry. Anything could have happened but we will never know now. Dublin are champs for 2016 and in my opinion they deserve to be.

GreenMan (Offaly) - Posts: 38 - 03/10/2016 18:48:55    1922068

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Not sure how true this is but just heard David Clarke has retired. A big loss if it's true but hard to blame him.

I feel sorry for Rob Hennelly. An inexplicable gamble that backfired for Rochford and poor Rob is the guy who has suffered most. Rochford brought us a long way in year one. Definitely has to stay on for 2017."
rochford brought mayo exactly were they expected to be...not saying he did a bad job or anything just disagree with notion he did anything out of the ordinary

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 03/10/2016 18:53:03    1922071

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Not sure how true this is but just heard David Clarke has retired. A big loss if it's true but hard to blame him.

I feel sorry for Rob Hennelly. An inexplicable gamble that backfired for Rochford and poor Rob is the guy who has suffered most. Rochford brought us a long way in year one. Definitely has to stay on for 2017."
Rochford brought you no further than Connelly & Holmes.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 03/10/2016 18:55:53    1922072

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Lads to give Rochford credit where it is due we were superb defensively in the later stages of the championship. Look at that the Dublin starting forwards scored from play in both games. It was a superb defensive display. To say Rochford did nothing more than the lads last year is wrong. However the keeper call is something he will never be able to explain, it was bullshit.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7902 - 03/10/2016 19:22:39    1922078

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Replying To realdub:  "Folks, I have to say I feel profoundly for Rob. He's been hammered in all sorts of media. This was a terrible day for him and it will take some time to get over it. The fact that Rochford will get it on the neck for putting Hennelly in the team will not make him feel any better, probably worse.
So I sincerely hope that all close to Rob help him through this and that the media give it a rest sooner than later."
Get back up on the saddle Rob. All real mayo and gaa fans behind you

liner (Mayo) - Posts: 756 - 03/10/2016 19:27:13    1922082

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "You are being generous to Rochford describing the kickouts from the first game as a problem. Remember Hennelly had a nightmare against Galway this year and against Dublin last year in the replay. His kickouts are hit and miss as the stats prove."
Didn't see that game. Were they that bad?

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 03/10/2016 19:36:48    1922086

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Lads to give Rochford credit where it is due we were superb defensively in the later stages of the championship. Look at that the Dublin starting forwards scored from play in both games. It was a superb defensive display. To say Rochford did nothing more than the lads last year is wrong. However the keeper call is something he will never be able to explain, it was bullshit."
i agree they looked better at the back but the point still stands that mayo got to exactly they were supposed to be

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 03/10/2016 20:33:05    1922103

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Henelly was on the panel so obviously he brought something to the team or he wouldn't be there. Unfortunately history will show his mistakes which { may have } cost Mayo an AI. At the end of the day he is an amateur player and should be treated as one with the respect that all amateur players deserve. The games over and only the Mayo management can say why they made the call. Having said that, Mayo only lost by 1 single point.

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 03/10/2016 21:04:39    1922114

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Just watched the highlights on TG4

Hennelly looked happy to go off after seeing black, almost relieved.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/10/2016 21:14:20    1922118

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Replying To bulmccabe:  "Henelly was on the panel so obviously he brought something to the team or he wouldn't be there. Unfortunately history will show his mistakes which { may have } cost Mayo an AI. At the end of the day he is an amateur player and should be treated as one with the respect that all amateur players deserve. The games over and only the Mayo management can say why they made the call. Having said that, Mayo only lost by 1 single point."
Yeah tough on the lad but the fault is with Rochford, selecting him upset the defense and this put Hennelly under pressure to sort of justify his selection, even at a subconscious level, bad mental fart by Rochford probably cost Mayo this All Ireland.

El_Torro (Tyrone) - Posts: 155 - 03/10/2016 21:17:01    1922121

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Clarke obviously peed off with management, crazy decision to walk away from this Mayo team. There very close and if they win it next year how sick would Clarke be if he wasn't involved. I'd be shocked if anyone else from Mayo retires."
If the Clarke rumour is true and the other rumour about the players having a say in Hennelly getting Clarkes place..

Would it be any wonder he wants to leave!

You wouldn't think much of your "team mates"

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/10/2016 21:17:53    1922122

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Best of luck to Robbie,he near broke my heart watching him at the end. I hope he can pick himself up and come back. It'll take a while to get over it but Donegals Durcan overcame and so can Robbie. Good luck Robbie.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 03/10/2016 21:22:55    1922126

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Replying To moc.dna:  "Rochford brought you no further than Connelly & Holmes."
We lost the final in a replay to a very good Dublin side. He has made our defence a whole lot better. We need improving/strengthening up front and in midfield. We lost 7 finals trying to play ball, naive at times. Something had to change. Harrison and Durcan were a big improvement. Dropping Clarke was a mistake, no guarantees we would have won had he started. It takes balls to make a call like that and it did backfire but not worth letting a good manager go for that. Under Connelly and Holmes our defence collapsed in the replay last year.

We lost this replay by not taking chances in second half. Dublin were clinical when they had the ball in the scoring area, we passed responsibility back and forth when we got to the Hill end of the pitch. We'll learn from it, from our own mistakes and by watching how Dublin are clinical in front of goal.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 03/10/2016 21:25:47    1922128

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