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Replying To Malonemagic:  "Im really angry over all this. Its one of the great injustices. I dont blame the umpires . Human error. But its very simple to have a clause called EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES OF INJUSTICE where the injustice is one of FACT not subjective opinion , and order a replay immediately under such a clause. This has been a massive own goal by ladies gaa and cork and their management have not covered themselves in glory either."
If your criteria is an error of fact not subjective opinion - does that still not leave huge scope for appeals

All of the following could be corrected definitively through post match slow motion

1) a 45 not given
2) an incorrect sideline ball leading to a score
3) A goal where 7 steps were taken
4) A score following a double hop
5) A goal not given but over the line
6) A keeper moving early and saving a penalty

How do you define what merits a replay ?
The area that would be subjective is the level of injustice

ruanua (Donegal) - Posts: 4966 - 27/09/2016 00:42:22    1919500

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Replying To ruanua:  "If your criteria is an error of fact not subjective opinion - does that still not leave huge scope for appeals

All of the following could be corrected definitively through post match slow motion

1) a 45 not given
2) an incorrect sideline ball leading to a score
3) A goal where 7 steps were taken
4) A score following a double hop
5) A goal not given but over the line
6) A keeper moving early and saving a penalty

How do you define what merits a replay ?
The area that would be subjective is the level of injustice"
All different in nature from a valid score not awarded in error.I agree though that a replay here would in some respects have been unfair to Cork and it was never going to happen anyway.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2168 - 27/09/2016 08:39:01    1919511

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "This has happened time and again umpires making mistakes when do we have to say I'm kets do something about making umpires improve their performance. Its one thing a sliotar but a football that low you don't need Hawkeye human error is blamed for everything an official does only so much human error before somebody gets dropped or suspended I think has to start happeneing officials.
What is the sideline official job id not to regulate subs?"
What do you want done about human error, ffs, the guy should have seen it. I don't know how it happened but it did. It's really unfortunate for Dublin and unfair but there still should be no replay. Decision was made at the time it has to be final.

Armagh Laois it was the managements fault. How many of them were there, one of those guys should have copped to their mistake. To blame officials in that instance would just be laying off blame. I can't be bothered to be honest checking what there role exactly entails but I do remember from a thread at the time that they'd no responsibility for checking the number of subs used. So the fault lies solely with Laois management.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 27/09/2016 09:22:18    1919520

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Replying To Whammo86:  "What do you want done about human error, ffs, the guy should have seen it. I don't know how it happened but it did. It's really unfortunate for Dublin and unfair but there still should be no replay. Decision was made at the time it has to be final.

Armagh Laois it was the managements fault. How many of them were there, one of those guys should have copped to their mistake. To blame officials in that instance would just be laying off blame. I can't be bothered to be honest checking what there role exactly entails but I do remember from a thread at the time that they'd no responsibility for checking the number of subs used. So the fault lies solely with Laois management."
I'm not looking for a replay.
I said this game has more reason for a replay than the laois v Armagh one though. What I want done is an improvement in umpiring and officiating in general, a major overhaul of how they are appointed and trained and who's qualified and who's not. We have it seems week in week out an umpire or ref or sideline official making horrendous calls that are quite clear cut. Every week human error is blamed and a call for technology is made as a sideshow. We haven't existed this long with humans controlling issues and not learned something, we need to focus on improving the standards of officiating because right now its slipped so far down that people blame the rules or lack of technology for all basic bad calls instead of looking at the people making these bad calls.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 27/09/2016 09:47:07    1919527

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Replying To Whammo86:  "What do you want done about human error, ffs, the guy should have seen it. I don't know how it happened but it did. It's really unfortunate for Dublin and unfair but there still should be no replay. Decision was made at the time it has to be final.

Armagh Laois it was the managements fault. How many of them were there, one of those guys should have copped to their mistake. To blame officials in that instance would just be laying off blame. I can't be bothered to be honest checking what there role exactly entails but I do remember from a thread at the time that they'd no responsibility for checking the number of subs used. So the fault lies solely with Laois management."
The controversial error saw Hawkeye brand a perfectly good point as a 'miss' during the All-Ireland minor hurling semi-final between Limerick and Galway.
It's thought to have cost the GAA somewhere in the region of €200,000, although the costs have never been confirmed.
However following today's mistake, GAA chiefs stood down 'Hawkeye' and an investigation into how the error occurred is underway.
The incident occurred when Limerick's Barry Nash sent a ball sailing over the bar and the umpire immediately raced for his white flag.
The decision was reviewed and the point was ruled as a 'miss' by Hawkeye but the match officials overruled the technology and awarded the point.
However, the graphic clearly showed that the sliotar had gone inside the post.
"It's not good enough," Tomas Mulcahy said on RTE's Sunday Game.
The decision could have been hugely costly as the game finished as a draw in normal time with Galway going on to win by 0-23 to 0-20 after extra time.
The GAA announced, following the contentious decision, that Hawkeye would not be used in the senior game between Limerick and Clare.
In recent years, championship games have been mired in controversy over key scores where officials made the wrong call.
The Leinster football final between Louth and Meath was one such example, in which a controversial goal by Meath snatched victory away from Louth in the dying minutes of the game.

From a report on the game August 2013 - - all things are possible, even the impossible.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 27/09/2016 12:42:57    1919609

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Replying To endgame:  "All different in nature from a valid score not awarded in error.I agree though that a replay here would in some respects have been unfair to Cork and it was never going to happen anyway."
In these examples.
1. Might not have been scored anyways.
2 ,3 , 4 could still have been defended.
5. Grounds for a replay.
6. Could still have been defended
7. Could still have been scored .
The point sundays incident is fairly unique and there is nothing dublin could do to right the wrong.

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 767 - 27/09/2016 19:23:41    1919847

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