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A score was not given by terrible umpiring so that should rob a team of a replay? Surely Cork will do the right thing and give a replay cause they won't be considered 2016 champions in my book.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 26/09/2016 08:30:50    1919085

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Seriously clondalkin dub do you really think that Cork ladies will be bothered what you think????? What about all the games up and down the country were bad calls decide matches, it's unfortunate but it happens.....but some of the moaning etc on here about it defies belief really

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 26/09/2016 09:29:28    1919103

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Your comparing games up n down the country to the biggest game in ladies football? Jesus.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 26/09/2016 09:41:02    1919113

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "A score was not given by terrible umpiring so that should rob a team of a replay? Surely Cork will do the right thing and give a replay cause they won't be considered 2016 champions in my book."
It's not a simple as saying the game would have been a draw if it was given.
Closing stages of the second would have taken a completely different format in terms of attacking and defending if there were 3 instead of 4 points in it. Maybe Cork wouldn't have given the penalty to run down the clock.
Literally the only time a case should be made is if it was the last kick of the game.

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 26/09/2016 10:10:06    1919128

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Are Dublin ladies appealing?

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 26/09/2016 10:37:41    1919143

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how could 2 umpires get it wrong? the chap standing behind the net clearly saw the ball go over the bar. Replay is the only fair move now.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 26/09/2016 10:43:56    1919146

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did limerick minor hurlers get a replay a while back for the same thing? don't think so was buked out of cccc

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 26/09/2016 11:21:25    1919174

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "how could 2 umpires get it wrong? the chap standing behind the net clearly saw the ball go over the bar. Replay is the only fair move now."
You could understand if the shot was high in the air and was difficult to judge but this was clear as day. Once again the standard of umpires in GAA is awful. They have one job and a lot of them can't even do that. Hawk eye should not have been needed in this instance. If an umpire cant see a clear score like that why is he in this position for an all ireland final? An complete joke.

jj72 (Kildare) - Posts: 53 - 26/09/2016 11:24:00    1919178

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "how could 2 umpires get it wrong? the chap standing behind the net clearly saw the ball go over the bar. Replay is the only fair move now."
The umpire at the near post who waved it wide was an ould lad who was in a terrible position, right at the butt of the post. Waved it wide straight away he did, as if he was certain, although he was clearly just guessing. Who did he think he was trying to cod, did he think he was umpiring some club match out the country where there were no cameras? The umpire at the far post was a younger man and was perfectly positioned behind the goal yet inexplicably did not overrule his older colleague, didn't even consult with him. I have a theory with a lot of these ould lad/young lad umpire combos, that the younger umpire is afraid to overrule the older umpire and defers to him automatically, even if the decision is quite clearly, horribly wrong. Complete joke shop of a set up.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 26/09/2016 13:02:36    1919224

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Are Dublin ladies appealing?"
Very appealing ;-)

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 26/09/2016 13:26:16    1919237

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "A score was not given by terrible umpiring so that should rob a team of a replay? Surely Cork will do the right thing and give a replay cause they won't be considered 2016 champions in my book."
I'm sure they're marching back to Dublin to hand the cup back now that they've heard they're not champions in your book.

ZeitChrist (UK) - Posts: 154 - 26/09/2016 13:49:15    1919249

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dont think an appeal would be way to go here.
the game was lost by a point we know that
but the girls should have had the game won by half time.
80% possesion and all them wides
whatever about hawkeye it really shouldnt be the issue
the umpires should be able to see that was a point
the guy at the near post had the wrong angle
the guy at far post clear view of the ball going over, you couldnt have been in a better position to call it.
its dissapointing again for the girls

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/09/2016 13:50:07    1919250

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Replying To county man:  "No, don't agree. Why should Dublin be forced to score 1-8 to Cork's 1-7 to get a draw just cause they had a half and a bit to get it,? Yeah they missed chances but at the end of the day they scored 1-7 just like Cork. They deserve a replay."
No, there shouldn't be a replay. It would be different if it was the last kick of the game, but it wasn't. Dublin lost because their shooting was awful, not because a point was waved wide. They had ample opportunity to take the game by the scruff of the neck and didn't.

ZeitChrist (UK) - Posts: 154 - 26/09/2016 13:53:06    1919253

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Dublin not appealing. Very gracious of them, some counties could learn a lot from them.
Now that Dublin aren't appealing will we see huge pressure put on the Cork players to offer a replay themselves?

RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 26/09/2016 13:55:07    1919254

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Replying To Superglue:  "Very appealing ;-)"
Haha!:)

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 26/09/2016 13:55:17    1919255

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Replying To ballydalane:  "Are Dublin ladies appealing?"
Yes, several of them are.

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 26/09/2016 14:14:42    1919265

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Replying To ZeitChrist:  "No, there shouldn't be a replay. It would be different if it was the last kick of the game, but it wasn't. Dublin lost because their shooting was awful, not because a point was waved wide. They had ample opportunity to take the game by the scruff of the neck and didn't."
your right in why dublin lost
but to suggest a score is only wrong done if it happens at the end of the game is not right.
every score throughout a game carries the same value no matter what minute of the game it occurs in.
the same as an all ireland is not just winning the final you have to win all the games up to the final to get that far.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/09/2016 14:15:04    1919266

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The people who are claiming there shouldn't be a replay because Dublin should have put over some of their wides make me laugh.

Maybe Dublin could have been out of sight. Maybe the SHOULD have ben out of sight. That's not the point.

Cork SCORED 1-07.. Dublin SCORED 1-07. The game was a draw.

The ladies county board have released a statement saying they wont appeal. That's very harsh on the girls who've bust their backsides off all year to be denied a chance of a replay.

Its almost as if the DLCB are coming out and trying to win the public over by not appealing and having people congratulate them for being brilliant sports and just taking it on the chin. B******s, They should be doing everything in their power to give their girls a chance again.

They didn't lose the game. They didn't win it either.....But they certainly didn't lose it.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 26/09/2016 14:24:28    1919275

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I feel very sorry for Dublin ladies.

Ridiculous decision, terrible that it happens.

It should not be a replay though. Officially by the rules that were being played to it was not a point. Since there was no Hawkeye a point is decided by the officials. No point was awarded, that was the wrong decision but still no point was awarded.

The players all knew the score from that point on. The fact that a point wasn't given affects the course of the game, a point should not be retroactively be awarded, that would not be fair on Cork.

It's not the same as the Antrim Meath situation, where a point was awarded and the score was totted up incorrectly. I was against a replay in that scenario also, though, for the record.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 26/09/2016 14:48:31    1919285

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Replying To ZeitChrist:  "No, there shouldn't be a replay. It would be different if it was the last kick of the game, but it wasn't. Dublin lost because their shooting was awful, not because a point was waved wide. They had ample opportunity to take the game by the scruff of the neck and didn't."
No they lost because a legitimate point was disallowed. Everything else is irrelevant. Fair play anyway in that it appears that they are not going to appeal and make a song and dance about it. Marie Hickey and the LGFA should be very thankful for that but need to act quickly on the Hawkeye issue.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 26/09/2016 14:51:29    1919288

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