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Replay has to happen cause Cork didn't win the game, surely it's that straight forward just like the Meath hurling final???

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 25/09/2016 18:48:47    1918963

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The Meath game was replayed as the ref admitted he got the score wrong.....not that a point was not given as it was waved wide, some lads would need to learn the rules of the game

There are loads of example up and down the country of points not been given and games lost by a point.....tough on the Dublin ladies but not sure what grounds they have for appeal under rule.......

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 25/09/2016 18:55:45    1918968

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Replying To Laois76:  "Laois offered a replay to Carlow in 1995 after we were given a point for a clear wide."
Cheers for clearing that up.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 25/09/2016 19:04:56    1918973

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Replying To ZeitChrist:  "Meh. The "wide" happened in the first half. Dublin had well over a half an hour to go and win the match and they didn't. Cork dominated in the second half and took their chances much better. Dublin lost because their shooting and decision making was terrible more than anything."
Dublin dominated the first half and should have gone in 6pts to 3 up. Agreed they fell away in the second half but I feel very sorry for them.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 25/09/2016 19:35:05    1918987

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I read somewhere that, as the ladies ball is a different size to the mens. Hawkeye would have to be recalibrated. Its got 2 settings - Sliotar and "Men's Ball" ;-) size.

Podge8395 (Dublin) - Posts: 38 - 25/09/2016 19:56:45    1918993

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Replying To cuederocket:  "Cheers for clearing that up."
No problem Cuedo.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 25/09/2016 19:58:16    1918994

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Replying To cuederocket:  "Cheers for clearing that up."
Assuming you would be open as well to the penalty decision being reviewed????? Where would it stop??

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 25/09/2016 20:02:03    1918997

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Replying To avonali:  "Dublin dominated the first half and should have gone in 6pts to 3 up. Agreed they fell away in the second half but I feel very sorry for them."
As you say, they went into the second half ahead and should have kicked on from there, but they didn't. It's hard on them, but they had opportunities to put it away. Their shooting was very poor all day and that's really what let them down ultimately. Cork's execution was much better. Dublin got a pretty soft penalty at the end too that I don't think would have happened if Cork had been three instead of four ahead. Cork were running down the clock at that point.

ZeitChrist (UK) - Posts: 154 - 25/09/2016 20:19:18    1919000

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Replying To PaudieSull1:  "Assuming you would be open as well to the penalty decision being reviewed????? Where would it stop??"
There's a clear difference between a score not given which cameras prove to have been a score and a free or penalty given or not given with the latter being matters of opinion and judgement as to the decision that should have been made.There won't be a replay here but let's not understate the enormity of the error made in denying a valid point scored in an All-Ireland Final where only a point separated the teams at the end.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2168 - 25/09/2016 20:23:20    1919001

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I don't believe Hawkeye even exists. All you see is a simulation. If it did exist then why can't they actually show the incident like the soccer people can?

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 25/09/2016 20:36:31    1919010

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Replying To Cavan_Slasher:  "I don't believe Hawkeye even exists. All you see is a simulation. If it did exist then why can't they actually show the incident like the soccer people can?"
You know, crazy as it seems I have often had that very thought myself. As well as that there have been a couple of 'Hawkeye' decisions that I thought were wrong. The amount of times Hawkeye has the ball hitting the upright is uncanny, even when the ball was not higher than the upright. If the ball in question is higher than the upright, Can it differentiate between ball that would rebound off the upright and one that would go in off it??

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 25/09/2016 21:28:59    1919028

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Meath's "try" against Louth was worse and Louth didn't get a replay as Meath didn't offer it.

Unless Cork offer a replay it won't happen.

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 25/09/2016 21:31:26    1919029

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Replying To ZeitChrist:  "Meh. The "wide" happened in the first half. Dublin had well over a half an hour to go and win the match and they didn't. Cork dominated in the second half and took their chances much better. Dublin lost because their shooting and decision making was terrible more than anything."
No, don't agree. Why should Dublin be forced to score 1-8 to Cork's 1-7 to get a draw just cause they had a half and a bit to get it,? Yeah they missed chances but at the end of the day they scored 1-7 just like Cork. They deserve a replay.

county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 25/09/2016 21:40:04    1919033

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RTE's coverage is a joke here. No studio discussion and they even scrapped the regular Sunday game theme music.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 25/09/2016 21:53:12    1919036

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Replying To Cavan_Slasher:  "I don't believe Hawkeye even exists. All you see is a simulation. If it did exist then why can't they actually show the incident like the soccer people can?"
Are you an atheist by any chance?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 25/09/2016 22:08:45    1919042

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Replying To PaudieSull1:  "The Meath game was replayed as the ref admitted he got the score wrong.....not that a point was not given as it was waved wide, some lads would need to learn the rules of the game

There are loads of example up and down the country of points not been given and games lost by a point.....tough on the Dublin ladies but not sure what grounds they have for appeal under rule......."
So surely the umpires must know they were wrong and admit they were wrong when they see the video evidence? It is completely indisputable. Assuming they would now admit they were wrong , it leave the situation exactly the same as in the aftermath of the Ring final.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 25/09/2016 22:17:12    1919045

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Look there can be no replay.

All that can be done is to make that this never happens again.

Hawkeye needs to be brought in for ladies games where available.

The ref clearly saw the point on the big screen afterwards but couldn't change the decision.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13711 - 25/09/2016 22:29:08    1919050

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Replying To PaudieSull1:  "Assuming you would be open as well to the penalty decision being reviewed????? Where would it stop??"
Not a problem, as clear a penalty as you are likely to see.

Beacaire Gorm (Dublin) - Posts: 597 - 25/09/2016 23:13:56    1919064

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Replying To yew_tree:  "RTE's coverage is a joke here. No studio discussion and they even scrapped the regular Sunday game theme music."
It's the same poor effort every year

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 26/09/2016 00:04:25    1919074

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Should not happen. The score was in the first half, so the game could have changed immeasurably from that moment. In 1995, Laois offered Carlow a replay after Michael Turley kicked a ball wide, at the death, which the umpires called a score. It was the last kick and was clearly the difference between a Laois win and a draw.

Replaying matches because a score was waved wide in the first half could open the door to ridiculous situations. Second yellows, penalties etc all come within the scope of an appeal.

Cully (Laois) - Posts: 375 - 26/09/2016 07:42:10    1919082

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