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thats only because you get wet in uncovered stand that applies in most grounds.
it still means theres no demand for a standing ticket what ever way you dress it up.
not very few games the hill does be full for all dublins championship games
the only part of the terrace not full does be the nally.
the cost of travel and food applies for quarter finals and semi finals too so dont feed me that
afterall they dont have to pay as much to live in mayo as a house costs in dublin so if you want to go down that road
think of how much they are saving on living in mayo compared to dublin the disparency in the cost of buying or renting in both counties can easily be used in that case, a few bob in petrol or thousands of euro in savings from mortgage or renting do the maths.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/09/2016 14:39:46    1917950

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "thats only because you get wet in uncovered stand that applies in most grounds.
it still means theres no demand for a standing ticket what ever way you dress it up.
not very few games the hill does be full for all dublins championship games
the only part of the terrace not full does be the nally.
the cost of travel and food applies for quarter finals and semi finals too so dont feed me that
afterall they dont have to pay as much to live in mayo as a house costs in dublin so if you want to go down that road
think of how much they are saving on living in mayo compared to dublin the disparency in the cost of buying or renting in both counties can easily be used in that case, a few bob in petrol or thousands of euro in savings from mortgage or renting do the maths."
Wages on average are lower in the west than in Dublin. You have already gone down that road. Fact is it is a hell of a lot more expensive to follow your county team if your are from Mayo rather then Dublin. Also we played our final qualifier game in Croke Park so the replay will be our 5th game there since late July.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 22/09/2016 15:08:53    1917967

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Yes - cost of living is cheaper in mayo which is reflected in how salaries differ in Dublin and Mayo. Employers takes these things into account. Anyway you are going down a completely irrelevant argument. Also your argument re semi final and quarter finals - my family travelled to all of those games. Now consider the how much my parents spent on tickets for themselves and their children, hotels, fuel, food etc for those matches and then to do it all again for the final? My parents were in the fortunate position that they could afford to do that. Not everyone is. Please take that into consideration.

Ccgall4 (Mayo) - Posts: 21 - 22/09/2016 15:14:54    1917971

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "referencing mchale park is very relevent.
for one its not that long revamped
then take the fact most people talk about terrace being cheaper option
the mayo supporters obviously arent stupid so they know they are not being offered the cheaper option for all games in mchale park by not having a terrace. if they had a problem with cheaper option or wanted to stand at games surely there would have been a demand for it in mchale park. show me where i said croke park belongs to dublin or why you think anybody is implying that even ?
the fact about the hill is no other counties want to use it until a final, you can dress it up what ever way you like but it doesnt tend to be open for games not involving dublin up until the all ireland semi finals because they dont look for tickets."
Your wrong. A stand ticket in McHale Park will typically be 30 EUR while a sideline in 20 EUR. A difference of 10 EUR. A hill ticket for a final costs 40 EUR while a stand ticket is 80 euro. A 40 euro difference. Also in games before a final Croke Park offer family seating which is not available for the final. I go to dozen's of games in MacHale Park and know it inside out unlike you. Fact is and this is funny, most people stand on the ground or up on the actual concrete seats on the far end.

Just face facts, you don't like Mayo or any other people taking up space on the hill. I was told so myself by a Dublin fan before the 2013 final when he came in and said I was standing in "his spot" - maybe t was yourself? Well boo hoo.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 22/09/2016 15:19:31    1917973

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "thats only because you get wet in uncovered stand that applies in most grounds.
it still means theres no demand for a standing ticket what ever way you dress it up.
not very few games the hill does be full for all dublins championship games
the only part of the terrace not full does be the nally.
the cost of travel and food applies for quarter finals and semi finals too so dont feed me that
afterall they dont have to pay as much to live in mayo as a house costs in dublin so if you want to go down that road
think of how much they are saving on living in mayo compared to dublin the disparency in the cost of buying or renting in both counties can easily be used in that case, a few bob in petrol or thousands of euro in savings from mortgage or renting do the maths."
Do the maths on the difference in available jobs, how much these jobs pay, the cost of driving to and from these jobs because of poor public transport.
Parnell park is the dubs home pitch not Croke park so get over yourself.

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 22/09/2016 15:37:10    1917981

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Replying To garlicbread:  "How is it 31 v 1?

I hear Dubs saying this constantly.

Do ye honestly think that Fermanagh people would have been supporting Mayo after the incident with AOS?

Do ye think that Cork would be supporting ye when ye play Kerry and vice versa?"
I had my vintage Dublin top on me during the game on Sunday. The Charlie Redmond special.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 22/09/2016 15:38:01    1917982

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "The larger allocation they should get as i already stated not all the tickets, mayo have no interest in standing at home games as they built an all seater stadium there was no demand for a terrace. They therefore forego the cheaper ticket option in McHale park every game. They had an all ireland semi final against tipp where they also choose to forego the cheaper option of the terrace ticket with an attendance of over 50 thousand the hill only had a few hundred out of that."
Come on man, there is a big difference between 80 euro and 25 euro. When would McHale park ever charge 80 euro into a game?

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 22/09/2016 15:39:21    1917984

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "referencing mchale park is very relevent.
for one its not that long revamped
then take the fact most people talk about terrace being cheaper option
the mayo supporters obviously arent stupid so they know they are not being offered the cheaper option for all games in mchale park by not having a terrace. if they had a problem with cheaper option or wanted to stand at games surely there would have been a demand for it in mchale park. show me where i said croke park belongs to dublin or why you think anybody is implying that even ?
the fact about the hill is no other counties want to use it until a final, you can dress it up what ever way you like but it doesnt tend to be open for games not involving dublin up until the all ireland semi finals because they dont look for tickets."
Your completely missing the point!!

The Hill isnt there just for you to stand, its the national stadium, they ddint just keep a terrace for the Dubs!! The Mayo county board decided to build an all seater stadium, do you think they consulted the fans before they done that to see if there was demand for a terrace?

The GAA didnt decide to keep the hill in place as a terrace just because the Dubs like to stand on the Hill. You say Mayo people shouldnt get tickets for the Hill because in their stadium they dont have a terrace. There is a terrace there for a reason and its not just because Dublin fans like it.

Its easy to say sure we have people on the hill every day and other counties dont bother till the final, did it ever occur to you the reason is your the only effin county who get to use Croke Park every day!! You say there is obviously no demand for terrace tickets with Mayo until the final because they have an all seater, do you think the only reason the GAA have retained the Hill is because of the demand from the Dubs??? Are ye that fond of yourself to believe the only reason the GAA didnt end up making Croke Park all seater is because there is a demand from the Dubs for a terrace??

The biggest irony is that this year Dublin were brought out of Croke Park but the match couldnt be played in Poartlaoise because there was enough seats!!

Teh fact is Its the national stadium on the day of the national final with equal access to the stadium for both competing counties, all areas of the stadium, as it should be, just because one county happens to have the good fortune of getting to play there almost every day doesnt give them squatters right!

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1341 - 22/09/2016 16:02:20    1917993

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Wages on average are lower in the west than in Dublin. You have already gone down that road. Fact is it is a hell of a lot more expensive to follow your county team if your are from Mayo rather then Dublin. Also we played our final qualifier game in Croke Park so the replay will be our 5th game there since late July."
And of those four games your supporters only opted to take up the cheaper option on one occasion.
So it dont add up

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/09/2016 16:29:59    1918001

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Replying To Ccgall4:  "Yes - cost of living is cheaper in mayo which is reflected in how salaries differ in Dublin and Mayo. Employers takes these things into account. Anyway you are going down a completely irrelevant argument. Also your argument re semi final and quarter finals - my family travelled to all of those games. Now consider the how much my parents spent on tickets for themselves and their children, hotels, fuel, food etc for those matches and then to do it all again for the final? My parents were in the fortunate position that they could afford to do that. Not everyone is. Please take that into consideration."
They also were possibly in the fortunate position they didn't have to fork out over a thousand euro rent or mortgage like most living in dublin when budgeting for the game.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/09/2016 16:32:28    1918004

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Your wrong. A stand ticket in McHale Park will typically be 30 EUR while a sideline in 20 EUR. A difference of 10 EUR. A hill ticket for a final costs 40 EUR while a stand ticket is 80 euro. A 40 euro difference. Also in games before a final Croke Park offer family seating which is not available for the final. I go to dozen's of games in MacHale Park and know it inside out unlike you. Fact is and this is funny, most people stand on the ground or up on the actual concrete seats on the far end.

Just face facts, you don't like Mayo or any other people taking up space on the hill. I was told so myself by a Dublin fan before the 2013 final when he came in and said I was standing in "his spot" - maybe t was yourself? Well boo hoo."
I have no problem from people from other counties who go to the hill on a regular basis, in fact there's an offaly man who goes hail rain or snow to all games and that guy lost out last Sunday probably the first match in croke park he has missed all year that he wasn't on the hill, it's the Johnny come latelys and bunches of teenagers who seem to be able to get tickets ahead of people who go all year, or the women on clonliffe road who need to ask people how to get to croke park that walk In for a day out because the gaa hands almost as many tickets to counties like mayo on all ireland final day as there is members In there clubs. While most Dublin clubs get paltry amounts of tickets per club membership

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/09/2016 16:39:31    1918011

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Replying To Superglue:  "Do the maths on the difference in available jobs, how much these jobs pay, the cost of driving to and from these jobs because of poor public transport.
Parnell park is the dubs home pitch not Croke park so get over yourself."
Again where did I say croke park is dublins home pitch, very find of making accusations without backing it up.
haha you think jobs grow on trees in Dublin there's huge numbers competing for any job you go to.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/09/2016 16:42:08    1918013

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Replying To gotmilk:  "Come on man, there is a big difference between 80 euro and 25 euro. When would McHale park ever charge 80 euro into a game?"
Haha all these people had no problem paying more than 80euro for a Garth Brooks ticket in croker, food transport hotels were not even an after thought they were following over themselves to get a stabd ticket then

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/09/2016 16:44:58    1918014

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "thats only because you get wet in uncovered stand that applies in most grounds.
it still means theres no demand for a standing ticket what ever way you dress it up.
not very few games the hill does be full for all dublins championship games
the only part of the terrace not full does be the nally.
the cost of travel and food applies for quarter finals and semi finals too so dont feed me that
afterall they dont have to pay as much to live in mayo as a house costs in dublin so if you want to go down that road
think of how much they are saving on living in mayo compared to dublin the disparency in the cost of buying or renting in both counties can easily be used in that case, a few bob in petrol or thousands of euro in savings from mortgage or renting do the maths."
There is no option to stand if you go to McHale park people have no choice. I would far sooner be standing under the roof in the Hyde terrace side then sitting out in the rain in McHale park. There was alot of Donegal, mayo and tryone fans who would have gladly took hill tickets for the quarter finals. The hill was not full for Dublin Leinster games. The wages are lower in the west with some of the most economically disadvantaged area in ireland

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 22/09/2016 16:45:45    1918015

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Replying To tearintom:  "Your completely missing the point!!

The Hill isnt there just for you to stand, its the national stadium, they ddint just keep a terrace for the Dubs!! The Mayo county board decided to build an all seater stadium, do you think they consulted the fans before they done that to see if there was demand for a terrace?

The GAA didnt decide to keep the hill in place as a terrace just because the Dubs like to stand on the Hill. You say Mayo people shouldnt get tickets for the Hill because in their stadium they dont have a terrace. There is a terrace there for a reason and its not just because Dublin fans like it.

Its easy to say sure we have people on the hill every day and other counties dont bother till the final, did it ever occur to you the reason is your the only effin county who get to use Croke Park every day!! You say there is obviously no demand for terrace tickets with Mayo until the final because they have an all seater, do you think the only reason the GAA have retained the Hill is because of the demand from the Dubs??? Are ye that fond of yourself to believe the only reason the GAA didnt end up making Croke Park all seater is because there is a demand from the Dubs for a terrace??

The biggest irony is that this year Dublin were brought out of Croke Park but the match couldnt be played in Poartlaoise because there was enough seats!!

Teh fact is Its the national stadium on the day of the national final with equal access to the stadium for both competing counties, all areas of the stadium, as it should be, just because one county happens to have the good fortune of getting to play there almost every day doesnt give them squatters right!"
One simple question then why is it they only open it for Dublin footballers matches apart from all ireland finals and semi finals

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/09/2016 16:47:24    1918016

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "They also were possibly in the fortunate position they didn't have to fork out over a thousand euro rent or mortgage like most living in dublin when budgeting for the game."
Well I live in Dublin. I spend a huge amount of money on rent. I have attended all of the games thus far and do you hear me complaining?????????

Get a grip.

Ccgall4 (Mayo) - Posts: 21 - 22/09/2016 16:59:43    1918026

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "so you basically feel if you couldnt be bothered using a terrace option all year you should still have every bit as much right to use it as a tourist or bandwagoner come an all ireland final day as somebody who has choose specifically to use the terrace option for the year.
for me the gaa needs to reward supporters not use them and frustrate them."
So are you referring to supporters like me who attend every Donegal game where possible as a tourist or bandwagonor? Same for Mayo, kerry fans etc?? For each of the last 6 Ulster final I have been behind the goals (town end) in Clones to watch the game and we have played Monaghan in 3 of those finals and you don't have Monaghan supporters going around claiming ownership of that terrace behind the goals. I have been to plenty of league games in croke park over the years involving Dublin (I live in Dublin) and funny enough the hill can be quite bare in the months of Ferbruary, March and April so speaking of bandwagoners........

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 22/09/2016 17:02:35    1918029

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "One simple question then why is it they only open it for Dublin footballers matches apart from all ireland finals and semi finals"
Because the GAA want to make more money by not allowing fans the cheaper ticket option.

If fans had the option to go to the hill they would.

You see terraces with thousand in them in grounds all over the country despite there being seats available

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 22/09/2016 17:09:53    1918032

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "One simple question then why is it they only open it for Dublin footballers matches apart from all ireland finals and semi finals"
But thats not the case though!

But again you keep missing the futility of the point your trying to make.

You claim that Mayo fans shouldnt have the rights to a terrace ticket becasue they dont utilise or have a terrace on their home ground.

In Dublin home ground whats the demand like for terrace tickets during Dublins home games, ive been to plenty of games in parnell park and never seen a huge clamour for the terrace?

So Wexford Park has 2 x terraces in our ground, if we happened to be in the final would we be ok to have as many ticket for the Hill?

And the point again, its the national stadium with the national final being played by 2 counties who each have equal access to every part of the ground

No one set of supporters has more right to any part of OUR national stadium than any other which is what your trying to claim should be the way because you have the good fortune to be gifted that stadium on a consistent basis.

Its the national stadium with equal rights for every county

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1341 - 22/09/2016 17:15:08    1918034

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hill16no1man has completely lost the plot by bringing Gareth brooks and mortgages into the scenario. Give it a rest lad. If tickets were handed out by population/number of fans Mayo would get about 10,000 tickets and the dubs would have the run of Croke Park.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 22/09/2016 17:28:19    1918042

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