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Dublin fans should maybe start looking within their own bubble to see why other counties didn't send tickets their way and the HILL 16 article may provide some answers. All Ireland finals ALWAYS throw up ticket problems and genuine fans have ALWAYS lost out but this arrogant sense of entitlement within Dublin really irks other counties and fans and there has been a bit of payback here. Dublin GAA folk believe the Association revolves around them and their antics have alienated people outside Dublin from them. My only reply is really you reap what you sow so dry your eyes.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9703 - 22/09/2016 00:24:41    1917793

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There should be no neutral tickets for the replay.None at all.

The neutrals have had their day out now the rest should be left to the fans of both teams involved.

The neutral tickets policy is a farce filling the stadium with non partisan supporters or putting supporters through hell to get a ticket is pure bull and I have no problem with a certain amount of neutral tickets being given out by the GAA but they should be restricted to county's who haven't qualified for an all ireland final in either code in over 10 years or more.Why should people in Kerry,Kilkenny,Tipperary get neutral tickets when they can go to an all ireland final on a fairly regular basis supporting their own county.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 22/09/2016 05:56:32    1917802

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Replying To heresam:  "people take swipe at others without knowing the facts, Barry and his site welcome all to the hill, the issue is the distribution of declined tickets and how to mitigate this fairly.
There is 31 counties up for Mayo so any final will be edged by dublin opponents which to be fair dublin is used to. However mayo having 70% of the tickets is wrong and nobody can argue that point"
How is it 31 v 1?

I hear Dubs saying this constantly.

Do ye honestly think that Fermanagh people would have been supporting Mayo after the incident with AOS?

Do ye think that Cork would be supporting ye when ye play Kerry and vice versa?

garlicbread (Galway) - Posts: 17 - 22/09/2016 07:51:35    1917804

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Prejudice against Dublin by GAA? After all Dublin GAA have received from Croke Park over the past ten year?

You expect people to take that seriously and feel sorry for you?

Not buying this at all. This is a wind up.

buttybrennan (Cork) - Posts: 58 - 22/09/2016 08:05:24    1917806

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Replying To glasagusdhearg:  "what a lot of you don't seem to realise is the amount of mayo people living and working outside of mayo is huge. i myself live outside the county. the first week after mayo got through to the final i called and text everyone i knew that's involved in the gaa here where im living and all of my family member's did the same, we got 12 ticket's from outside of the county and 2 within the county. now that's just 1 family. do you's realise the amount of people that have brother's, sister's, uncle's, aunt's, friend's, colleagues living in every county all over the country. i can guarantee you everyone of them were contacted in the day's following mayo's semi, that is the reason why so many mayo people were there, plain and simple"
That's probably it in a nutshell.

Also a decent amount of Mayo people living in Dublin involved in Dublin clubs competing for tickets in those clubs.

There are a lot of Dubs living in the surrounding counties, particularly Meath and Kildare, but there are less likely to be involved in local clubs seeing as their home club is probably only about 20 minutes away. Dublin's own traditions of family versus locality also add to this as people tend to play/join their family club rather than the club that is closest to them geographically.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 22/09/2016 08:29:25    1917810

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Replying To jimbodub:  "I was told the exact same from friends spread out across several clubs, many devote club people were scrambling looking for one from a raffle!

No tickets came back to Whitehall, Isles, Na Fianna, Kickhams or Peregrines and that's just the clubs I'm aware of

Unwanted tickets went west and no doubt there was a large lopsided amount of tickets that went Mayo's way to a load of bandwagoners

True blue Dub club members were left empty handed while Mayo was awash with tickets.

Just shows the prejudice that very much exists and it's at the expense of true club people in Dublin"
Before you go on about prejudice Jimbo I'm sure if the Dublin county board offered other counties their games development budget in exchange for their ticket allocation for the final you might have some joy.

This has nothing to do with prejudice Mayo had a weeks head start and made hay, nothing more, nothing less.

duckula20 (Antrim) - Posts: 175 - 22/09/2016 09:17:30    1917821

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Dublin fans should maybe start looking within their own bubble to see why other counties didn't send tickets their way and the HILL 16 article may provide some answers. All Ireland finals ALWAYS throw up ticket problems and genuine fans have ALWAYS lost out but this arrogant sense of entitlement within Dublin really irks other counties and fans and there has been a bit of payback here. Dublin GAA folk believe the Association revolves around them and their antics have alienated people outside Dublin from them. My only reply is really you reap what you sow so dry your eyes."
Haha

Conspiracy theories wha

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 22/09/2016 10:14:29    1917832

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Very few unwanted ticket allocations around the country came back to Dublin"
They don't go back to Mayo either. Alot of tickets are sourced in clubs around the country by Mayo supporters. So these tickets are never unwanted. Some of the paranoia on here from some Dublin supporters is crazy. Do you understand at all how the GAA functions?

Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 22/09/2016 10:22:10    1917835

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Replying To ROS1:  "Why should only dublin get the much cheaper hill tickets? Would agree with you re the allocation to other counties for the replay and politicians should get none"
The larger allocation they should get as i already stated not all the tickets, mayo have no interest in standing at home games as they built an all seater stadium there was no demand for a terrace. They therefore forego the cheaper ticket option in McHale park every game. They had an all ireland semi final against tipp where they also choose to forego the cheaper option of the terrace ticket with an attendance of over 50 thousand the hill only had a few hundred out of that.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/09/2016 11:03:06    1917846

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Replying To Weary:  "They don't go back to Mayo either. Alot of tickets are sourced in clubs around the country by Mayo supporters. So these tickets are never unwanted. Some of the paranoia on here from some Dublin supporters is crazy. Do you understand at all how the GAA functions?"
Yes I absolutely agree the conspiracy theories and Paranoia on this site is crazy alright

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 22/09/2016 11:16:17    1917852

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "The larger allocation they should get as i already stated not all the tickets, mayo have no interest in standing at home games as they built an all seater stadium there was no demand for a terrace. They therefore forego the cheaper ticket option in McHale park every game. They had an all ireland semi final against tipp where they also choose to forego the cheaper option of the terrace ticket with an attendance of over 50 thousand the hill only had a few hundred out of that."
I can see where you are coming from to a certain extent and I definitely think allocation of tickets to counties outside Mayo and Dublin should be at a minimum for the replay but the Mayo fans have an equal right to experience the game from the hill if the choose to and are lucky enough to get tickets. Comparing Croke Park with the layout of McHale park is silly. Croke park is the GAA HQ for everyone of the 32 counties and doesn't belong to Dublin. All Ireland finals aren't played in McHale park and if your team are lucky enough to reach an All Ireland final the best place to experience the game IMO is the hill because you get to mix with your fellow county folk as well as supporters from the opposition. Myself and a few of my friends were on the hill in the 2012 final and Michael Murphy scoring that early goal into the hill will always go down as my favourite memory supporting Donegal. 2014 wasn't a good outcome for Donegal but I had great day out mixing with the Kerry supporters during and after the game. The point I'm making is if Donegal were to make an All Ireland final in the future and I'm fit and healthly to go I will seek a ticket for the hill again no matter who the opposition is so Mayo supporters are well within their rights to seek tickets for the hill. If they didn't want to go there I'm sure they would find Dublin fans willing to swap for a stand ticket but then would the difference on pricing be a factor I wonder?

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 22/09/2016 11:53:15    1917878

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Lads i live now across the water, ever club in london and other clubs within the uk get tickets now within those clubs you will find mayo lads within my own there our 7 lads and none from dublin this will be common all over britain, when i flew over on sat the plane was half full of mayo lads and 1/2 dubs ( crack was great to be fair ) and the same flying back sun night.
You will find mayo lads in there thousands over here as they have to come over for work so tickets outside both counties lots do get snapped up by those lads.
There is no anti dublin its just lads working away from home will get there hands on tickets.

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 705 - 22/09/2016 12:27:33    1917891

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Replying To veterandub:  "My debut post here. There were clearly way more Mayo fans in Croker on Sunday. It's also well known that there were NO returned tickets to any club in Dublin. I'm a committee member in my own club and know this to be true. The authorities in Croke Park got NO tickets back from other counties. It's obvious that the nuetral counties are not nuetral.
My next point. Hill 16 army is by far the tackiest of all the Dublin social media pages. If you want to see a fantastic Dublin page then look no further than the Dubs supporters page. The guy who does most of their features, Derek is an excellent writer and has an astounding knowledge of Dublin GAA. His page would be the best example of how to run a fan page I've seen yet."
Believe it or not, I'm sure he wont mind me saying this, Derek is a long time contributor on Hoganstand. A wonderful, great guy.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 22/09/2016 12:39:18    1917898

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Mayo has a population of 140,000
Dublin has a population of 1,400,000

Dublin GAA has grown dramatically even in the last ten years in terms of Clubs size, numbers of Juveniles playing, coachs, schools etc ...for the replay only the countys involved should get tickets apart from sponsors . There isn't enough to satisfy the counties involved not to mind looking after 2 people in every club in Ireland & Abroad.

hurler32 (Limerick) - Posts: 867 - 22/09/2016 12:50:36    1917904

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Referencing what mayo do with mc hale park has as much relevance as to what the seating situation is with parnell park.

Croke Park isn't dublins stadium. It's the national stadium of the gaa.

Therefore every county has as much right as Dublin do.

Croke park doesn't belong exclusively to Dublin. Neither does the hill. A fact it seems oft overlooked.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1341 - 22/09/2016 12:55:17    1917908

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Replying To heresam:  "I think the point being made is that dublin bankroll the gaa with the quantity of fans that go to all the matches , whether mayo like it or not.
At the final then we are all wondering why Mayo had approx. 70% of the tickets and Dublin 30% regardless of the Hill or not . One third of the Hill was Mayo, all the nally was mayo, 70% of the hogan wa mayo and 60% of the cusack was mayo.
Anyone but dublin couldnt give a toss, i know. However for all the fans that did go to most of the matches for dublin one begs the question of why such mis-allocation was allowed.
We assume that the other countries sent the tickets to mayo rather than to central council, if that is the case then there is a strong argument that most tickets should go to the competiting teams. Last Sunday the minors were playing so a lot of galway tickets would have gone to mayo as there was practically no galway there.
I think thats a fair analysis"
I think the counties in the minor get 3000 tickets so it would be hard to notice 3000 in a crowd of 82000 don't you think?
You also need to remember that there are Mayo people spread all over the country and the world.GAA clubs in Galway, Roscommon, Sligo and ye even Dublin would have plenty of Mayo members.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 22/09/2016 13:13:59    1917917

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "The larger allocation they should get as i already stated not all the tickets, mayo have no interest in standing at home games as they built an all seater stadium there was no demand for a terrace. They therefore forego the cheaper ticket option in McHale park every game. They had an all ireland semi final against tipp where they also choose to forego the cheaper option of the terrace ticket with an attendance of over 50 thousand the hill only had a few hundred out of that."
For Connacht championship games the stsnd in McHale park is more expensive then the uncovered seating in the rest of the ground. Would be the same price as the terrace in the other county grounds in Connacht. No matter what 2 counties are in the final the hill will be full. It's very few games that the dubs fill the hill themselves. 70 euro price difference is alot of money for a couple going to a final, especially when you consider the cost of travel and food for people coming up from mayo

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 22/09/2016 14:16:42    1917938

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Will the Hill be full on Sunday for the Ladies final?

garlicbread (Galway) - Posts: 17 - 22/09/2016 14:23:27    1917940

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Replying To tearintom:  "Referencing what mayo do with mc hale park has as much relevance as to what the seating situation is with parnell park.

Croke Park isn't dublins stadium. It's the national stadium of the gaa.

Therefore every county has as much right as Dublin do.

Croke park doesn't belong exclusively to Dublin. Neither does the hill. A fact it seems oft overlooked."
referencing mchale park is very relevent.
for one its not that long revamped
then take the fact most people talk about terrace being cheaper option
the mayo supporters obviously arent stupid so they know they are not being offered the cheaper option for all games in mchale park by not having a terrace. if they had a problem with cheaper option or wanted to stand at games surely there would have been a demand for it in mchale park. show me where i said croke park belongs to dublin or why you think anybody is implying that even ?
the fact about the hill is no other counties want to use it until a final, you can dress it up what ever way you like but it doesnt tend to be open for games not involving dublin up until the all ireland semi finals because they dont look for tickets.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/09/2016 14:24:46    1917942

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Replying To Mobot:  "I can see where you are coming from to a certain extent and I definitely think allocation of tickets to counties outside Mayo and Dublin should be at a minimum for the replay but the Mayo fans have an equal right to experience the game from the hill if the choose to and are lucky enough to get tickets. Comparing Croke Park with the layout of McHale park is silly. Croke park is the GAA HQ for everyone of the 32 counties and doesn't belong to Dublin. All Ireland finals aren't played in McHale park and if your team are lucky enough to reach an All Ireland final the best place to experience the game IMO is the hill because you get to mix with your fellow county folk as well as supporters from the opposition. Myself and a few of my friends were on the hill in the 2012 final and Michael Murphy scoring that early goal into the hill will always go down as my favourite memory supporting Donegal. 2014 wasn't a good outcome for Donegal but I had great day out mixing with the Kerry supporters during and after the game. The point I'm making is if Donegal were to make an All Ireland final in the future and I'm fit and healthly to go I will seek a ticket for the hill again no matter who the opposition is so Mayo supporters are well within their rights to seek tickets for the hill. If they didn't want to go there I'm sure they would find Dublin fans willing to swap for a stand ticket but then would the difference on pricing be a factor I wonder?"
so you basically feel if you couldnt be bothered using a terrace option all year you should still have every bit as much right to use it as a tourist or bandwagoner come an all ireland final day as somebody who has choose specifically to use the terrace option for the year.
for me the gaa needs to reward supporters not use them and frustrate them.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/09/2016 14:28:03    1917944

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