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7 minutes extra time?

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Really can't understand why they don't have a clock/hooter system as used in ladies football, surely to Christ it can put an end to this extra time farce once and for all

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1916 - 19/09/2016 21:36:11    1916650

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20 seconds per sub, think there were twelve subs, which adds on four minutes. Also several lengthy breaks for injuries and general acting the maggot off the ball. Given the time wasting that went on in injury time, Lane actually ended up playing almost nine minutes.
People are complaining about the added time as the GAA previously just seem to add two or three minutes irrespective of what had gone on previously.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts:970 - 19/09/2016 17:44:29Why should there be a specific amount of time added on for a sub coming on? I don't think there should be. Unless there has been significant injuries or unavoidable delay games should only have 2/3 minutes of injury time max.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 19/09/2016 21:36:16    1916651

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Yes, ridiculous - its all the fad this year for refs, just like the hand pass thing was few years back. Why not just use the stopwatch system like in rugby and blow when ball goes out of play over the time?

Brolly (Monaghan) - Posts: 4472 - 19/09/2016 21:46:52    1916658

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Dean Rock spent 2 minutes taken a 45 and the ref said to 1 of the Dublin players, think it was paddy Andrews that he would be adding it on regardless.

boomerang (Mayo) - Posts: 49 - 19/09/2016 22:53:48    1916692

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Replying To boomerang:  "Dean Rock spent 2 minutes taken a 45 and the ref said to 1 of the Dublin players, think it was paddy Andrews that he would be adding it on regardless."
Yeah the ball rolled off the divot and Rock had to replace. But why just add time on for Rock's kick? What about those that took 1m. 7m in one half is ridiculous though, that's 20% extra time in the half and there were no significan injuries. It would be like having 9 mins at the end of a soccer match. The hooter system is really the only fair option and stops refs from trying to play for the draw.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 20/09/2016 00:03:51    1916702

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Replying To Joxer:  "Yeah the ball rolled off the divot and Rock had to replace. But why just add time on for Rock's kick? What about those that took 1m. 7m in one half is ridiculous though, that's 20% extra time in the half and there were no significan injuries. It would be like having 9 mins at the end of a soccer match. The hooter system is really the only fair option and stops refs from trying to play for the draw."
I believe that making a divot to kick the ball off was outlawed years ago Rock done it every time he kicked of the ground

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 20/09/2016 00:47:33    1916710

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "In fairness he could have had plenty of company."
Aiden o Shea, Lee Keegan, and MDMC.

murphy32 (USA) - Posts: 15 - 20/09/2016 01:18:49    1916712

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Replying To doratheexplorer:  "There was a new directive with regards added on time this year but only has being enforced from quarters on. 20 seconds per sub so that's four minutes. Hard not to see where seven comes from. There was extra couple minutes added on to seven because of hold up in added on time. The standard one at ht and three at ft was always the same regardess of what happened before hand."
It's been enforced all championship. Cavan Tyrone replay had 7 minutes added even tho Tyrone won easy.

Donegal Monaghan replay was the same and there was very few stoppages in that game, and again Donegal were comfortable.

There were 5 added in Kerry Kildare minor semi final with Kerry winning by 13 points.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5020 - 20/09/2016 01:21:11    1916715

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I agree its happened a few times in Ulster too this year. No justification in having so much added time.
For instance the ball rolled for Rock and he reset. I understand adding 20 seconds but that was an isolated incident. Its not like other years where keepers were taking 5 minutes to take a free and no time added.

It was clear when the motion for the buzzer was rejected that they want to play for the draw. Make no sense whatsoever having the ref control the time also. He has enough to worry about especially with Keegan attempting to take Conollys clothes off.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 20/09/2016 08:51:25    1916738

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Replying To Joxer:  "Yeah the ball rolled off the divot and Rock had to replace. But why just add time on for Rock's kick? What about those that took 1m. 7m in one half is ridiculous though, that's 20% extra time in the half and there were no significan injuries. It would be like having 9 mins at the end of a soccer match. The hooter system is really the only fair option and stops refs from trying to play for the draw."
ehmmmm, Free Out as............ you cannot " make a divot for the purpose of teeing up
the ball for a free kick or kick-out" !

bogger from meath (Meath) - Posts: 226 - 20/09/2016 09:05:08    1916740

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Replying To doratheexplorer:  "There was a new directive with regards added on time this year but only has being enforced from quarters on. 20 seconds per sub so that's four minutes. Hard not to see where seven comes from. There was extra couple minutes added on to seven because of hold up in added on time. The standard one at ht and three at ft was always the same regardess of what happened before hand."
There is no set time to be added for subs. Referees are instructed to add on whatever time is lost for each substitution and incidental delay / time wasting.

Torcaill (Australia) - Posts: 204 - 20/09/2016 09:07:45    1916742

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "I honestly can't remember any time wasting, I know he pointed to his watch one time when Rock was taking a 45 but that was early in the second half and Mayo were only a few points behind so he'd no reason to waste time there was still 25 minutes to go he was only moving the ball after it rolled off his divet."
That should have been a hop ball for kicking up a divot for himself

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 20/09/2016 09:23:57    1916748

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There was 2 mins lost from the Keegan-Connolly flashpoint alone

benjyyy (Donegal) - Posts: 1422 - 20/09/2016 09:44:13    1916759

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Yeah I wasn't overly surprised with the 7 minutes when it was announced. We were discussing as the 70mins approached and I said there would be at least 4-5 minutes for the changes then whatever he added on for the time wasting which he had indicated a couple of times during the match that he was taking note of and general stoppages. I would prefer to see time like this added on rather than the previously mandatory 2 minutes of added time regardless of how many subs were made or how much time was wasted.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 20/09/2016 10:03:58    1916776

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time keeping is bizarre this year, in all big games loads given except the hurling semi Galway-Tipp where 2 minutes allowed, to our disappointment.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1675 - 20/09/2016 10:37:00    1916794

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "20 seconds per sub, think there were twelve subs, which adds on four minutes. Also several lengthy breaks for injuries and general acting the maggot off the ball. Given the time wasting that went on in injury time, Lane actually ended up playing almost nine minutes.
People are complaining about the added time as the GAA previously just seem to add two or three minutes irrespective of what had gone on previously.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts:970 - 19/09/2016 17:44:29Why should there be a specific amount of time added on for a sub coming on? I don't think there should be. Unless there has been significant injuries or unavoidable delay games should only have 2/3 minutes of injury time max."
Because the referee usually has to stop the game to allow the players on and off the pitch for a substitution, but yet the clock rolls on. Having said that I wouldn't be against using a timer as in ladies' football, which would do away with the controversy at the end of games and would also let officials concentrate on their jobs without the distraction of timekeeping.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 20/09/2016 11:13:26    1916810

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Superglue you can't hop a 45.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 20/09/2016 11:43:28    1916831

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Superglue you can't hop a 45."
Where did you get that from If the goalie does it from the kick out its a hop ball A free taker does it Rock done it 3 times on Sunday that i seen its a hop ball But for some bizarre reason the ref never called him on it So it would stand to reason that the same would apply for a 45 I will admit the rule book does not specifically mention 45s Just goal kicks and free kicks which technically a 45 is

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 20/09/2016 15:01:07    1916961

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Replying To Gleebo:  "20 seconds per sub, think there were twelve subs, which adds on four minutes. Also several lengthy breaks for injuries and general acting the maggot off the ball. Given the time wasting that went on in injury time, Lane actually ended up playing almost nine minutes.

People are complaining about the added time as the GAA previously just seem to add two or three minutes irrespective of what had gone on previously."
There were "only" 8 breaks for subs made from the 36th to the 70th minutes (7 if you count Moran and Coen as a double substitution) when the sign went up for the 7 minutes extra . You can't count the sub in the first half or the subs subsequent to the 70th minute in this calculation.

An extra 4 minutes 20 seconds did seem a little excessive on top of this. I don't remember too many delays for injuries (certainly not "several lengthy breaks") in the second 35 minutes, though there were delays for Rock's 45 and the Keegan / Connolly striptease act etc.

It is a bit academic though - both sides were well aware of the injury time that was to be played so neither can really have any great gripe at its length.

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 20/09/2016 17:51:02    1917059

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I don't think the scoreline is a factor when the additional time is being calculated at the end of a game. There has been games in this years championship where 5,6 and 7 mins were added when the games were over as a contest. What might happen is if there is only a point between the teams after the additional time has elapsed then the ref will probably give the losing team one more chance to get the equaliser e.g if COC had missed that kick at the end then the ref might have allowed another play as I believe this is human nature to do so. When the added time was being calculated Dublin were 3 points ahead so I doubt they had a draw in mind and can't be used as an excuse for throwing away the lead.

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 20/09/2016 18:15:34    1917077

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