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Spare a thought for the Mayo Club Championship

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@Byanthon (Tyrone)

Is there much of a difference between April and May for early rounds of club championships?

Having a number of county league games from May to August is beneficial for offering regular games during the inter-county championship. Each county to their own if they want county leagues played off earlier.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7847 - 25/09/2016 11:26:22    1918846

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Replying To legendzxix:  "You have to take into account the promotion of the game. The best window for the promotion of the championships is in the off season of professional sports. Championship is a traditional part of summer. You are barking up the wrong tree entirely if you think the inter-county championships will finish before August.

I'm all for improving fixtures, structures and formats but it has to be realistic.

I know many clubs who are out of their club championships before June. They get on with the game and still have league games and district championships to play in.

Counties again have to get their own houses in order."
I do agree with you some county boards handle the whole thing worse than others.

As a club player I hated the split season championship that I played in Meath. The end of season straight knockout in Antrim was much better.

GAA is all about championship, to have no meaningful games left to play by mid-April just meant the rest of the season was a dud. We'd plenty of games but they didn't especially matter.

I'm taking into account the off season of other sports.

The premier league returns in August, so I'm not sure why you have it that August is so special.

It's practically impossible to not have something on the calendar at the same time but Mid July to Mid August is the most clear time. After International soccer tournaments and before the professional soccer season starts. Having the climax to the season at this time makes sense. An August bank holiday All Ireland final is pretty much perfect timing. 1 to 2 weeks before the premiership kick off.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 25/09/2016 11:36:40    1918855

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Replying To moc.dna:  "Now here is the most accurate point in the whole debate, the club C'ship doesn't really matter. Talk by one poster of a strike is nonsense as it will never happen as most club delegates are the stroke masters in their clubs perceived to know how the board works & being able to swing things their way or have a word in someone's ear, these guys would never countenace a strike. That's why it will never happen. Take Galway hurling club delegates well noted for bitching about fixtures & games, yet they voted to cancel this year's club C'ships, talk about turkeys voting for Christmas. Another reason nothing will happen is that club players are gone beyond caring & have developed a take it or leave it a attitude. Outside of the top 10 senior teams in each county look at all the junior clubs & games, lads getting maybe 5 games a year across 10 months, loads of walk overs etc its a joke & that is why players are leaving in droves. The Gaa is all about Inter County baby, clubs are just shit on the shoe to them, that's why the GPA raised over €2,000,000 in the States & now get 10% of all Gaa commercial revenue. No GPA or funding or games for clubs. NO, just make sure Ye have yer registration & affiliation fees in on time. My advice to disillusioned club players is to try something else, you will be amazed at Whats out there & how well organised they are & the things that are missing from Gaa, adhered schedule & games, enjoyment, camaraderie, enjoyment & sportsmanship & fun are all there in other sports. Many lads wonder why they didn't do it earlier. Gaa thro drawing out seasons has a hold on lads who are afraid to try or commit to anything else. Lastly I wouldn't be to worried about dates of Connacht club C'ships as Prenty will ensure these are pushed out for Mayo clubs as has happened before. Lastly expect the incoming Uachtaran to say in his inaugural speech how clubs are the bedrock of the Association & are so close to his heart & important to him, they all say it, lip service. The current man also says it, yet there has been no improvement & if he & Padraic Duffy have their way, there will be two extra inter county c'ship matches next year. They will also go down in history as the two who began the trend towards pay for play by giving the GPA 10% of its commercial revenue. The slow death of club football is well under way, the question is, who cares any more ?"
"Take Galway hurling club delegates well noted for bitching about fixtures & games, yet they voted to cancel this year's club C'ships, talk about turkeys voting for Christmas."

What's this?

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1032 - 25/09/2016 12:00:29    1918863

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Replying To Tacaí Liatroma:  ""Take Galway hurling club delegates well noted for bitching about fixtures & games, yet they voted to cancel this year's club C'ships, talk about turkeys voting for Christmas."

What's this?"
Thought it was fairly obvious what it is. Just Toole it easier for you, 1st Rd of Galway hurling C'ship on 23/24th April, 2nd on May 1st, 3rd Rd on May 7/8th, 4th on May 22nd. At a Galway county board in May club delegates voted to cancel/ suspend the C'ship till July so the next round was July 9th, so no games for 7 weeks for club players.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 25/09/2016 12:58:34    1918882

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Replying To moc.dna:  "
Replying To Tacaí Liatroma:  ""Take Galway hurling club delegates well noted for bitching about fixtures & games, yet they voted to cancel this year's club C'ships, talk about turkeys voting for Christmas."

What's this?"
Thought it was fairly obvious what it is. Just Toole it easier for you, 1st Rd of Galway hurling C'ship on 23/24th April, 2nd on May 1st, 3rd Rd on May 7/8th, 4th on May 22nd. At a Galway county board in May club delegates voted to cancel/ suspend the C'ship till July so the next round was July 9th, so no games for 7 weeks for club players."
Toole should read, to make.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 25/09/2016 16:59:19    1918912

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Replying To Tacaí Liatroma:  "Maybe Saturday-Sunday games are the way to go for this year to finish it off. Therefore, if you had two group games left for each team, they could be played on successive days. Not nice for any team, but at least if a team has to do it, they'll know their opponent has to do it too, which is fair. Tough, but fair.

Maybe knockout games would have to be considered in this too, but that would only be if they were very very very VERY very very very tight for time."
The irony... The county team couldnt play a match for 4 weeks but you'd expect club players to play two days in a row!!!

Joe_Bloggs (Tipperary) - Posts: 186 - 29/09/2016 14:46:27    1920528

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The Dublin club players have it even worse! Great piece.

http://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/nothing-divert-dublin-clubs-suffer/98589

Joe_Bloggs (Tipperary) - Posts: 186 - 12/10/2016 08:52:44    1925228

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Great Piece.
Wolly Parkinson

Pick One.

Jaden (Dublin) - Posts: 139 - 12/10/2016 09:51:52    1925245

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Replying To Joe_Bloggs:  "The Dublin club players have it even worse! Great piece.

Really" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/nothing-divert-dublin-clubs-suffer/98589"
Really just shows how broken the current system is and that the answer has to come from the top.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 12/10/2016 17:31:39    1925452

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