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The Replay - How do you see it going?

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Mayo were magnificent in defense yesterday, they will need to do exactly the same the next day, that amount of effort at the back requires a lot of discipline and positional play going to defense.

Just can't see Mayo out scoring this Dublin team with the above in mind. Dublin won't hit as many wides the next day and Gavin will have surprise of two the next day.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 19/09/2016 16:04:00    1916411

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Replying To Laois76:  "I think one point that hasn't been mentioned much is it's difficult to put back to back football all-irelands. The talk is mostly of Dublin never playing as poorly again and having more scope to improve. However have Dublin the same ultra desire to win as they had in 11, 13 and 15? In attempting to put back to backs is there more pressure on a team than we realise..does it make that team a little more nervy? is there a mental fatigue factor? I presume there's a reason only Kerry 2006 and 2007 are the only team to do it in 26 years.

Personally i don't know and all will be revealed on October 1st!"
I don't think so. The heavy lifting is now done for back to backs. They are 70 mins away from history and if that doesn't spur these lads on then what will. That was a great result for Dublin for many reasons. The pressure is now lifted and the weight of expectation moves onto Mayo's shoulders. A lot of neutrals and the media will now think that Mayo can and should win this. Dublin will be delighted with that. Mayo threw everything at Dublin yesterday even pre-game mental tactics in the tunnel yet still came up short. That will have them worried. I don't buy the OG thing and Dublin relying on them. The fact is that Dublin were opening Mayo up at will at that stage, 3 one on ones in close proximity. This will give Dublin great heart. Had they needed to put the foot down and chase the game I think Dublin would have found another gear. Dublin are always better when chasing scores instead of defending leads, just look at their big results over the years, almost always coming from behind. I think we will see a different game the next day but Dublin have to greatly improve up front.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 19/09/2016 16:05:08    1916413

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I really fancied Mayo yesterday. The build up was as perfect for them. Dublin's performance confirmed that.

I cannot see anything other than a Dublin win the next day. Mayo will not make it easy for them but I cant see them crossing the line.

You get one chance as an underdog

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 19/09/2016 16:13:15    1916422

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Replying To Joxer:  "I don't think so. The heavy lifting is now done for back to backs. They are 70 mins away from history and if that doesn't spur these lads on then what will. That was a great result for Dublin for many reasons. The pressure is now lifted and the weight of expectation moves onto Mayo's shoulders. A lot of neutrals and the media will now think that Mayo can and should win this. Dublin will be delighted with that. Mayo threw everything at Dublin yesterday even pre-game mental tactics in the tunnel yet still came up short. That will have them worried. I don't buy the OG thing and Dublin relying on them. The fact is that Dublin were opening Mayo up at will at that stage, 3 one on ones in close proximity. This will give Dublin great heart. Had they needed to put the foot down and chase the game I think Dublin would have found another gear. Dublin are always better when chasing scores instead of defending leads, just look at their big results over the years, almost always coming from behind. I think we will see a different game the next day but Dublin have to greatly improve up front."
I am looking forward to the replay. The lads now have something to prove because everyone was praising them since Kerry game.
I was at the game and Mayo did well but look quite limited up front. Kerry would have been ruthless and put Dublin away.
Weather forecast is for a dry day although, we all know the forecast can change in two weeks
Here is hoping its dry

Scarabin (Dublin) - Posts: 116 - 19/09/2016 16:18:35    1916431

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Replying To Joxer:  "I don't think so. The heavy lifting is now done for back to backs. They are 70 mins away from history and if that doesn't spur these lads on then what will. That was a great result for Dublin for many reasons. The pressure is now lifted and the weight of expectation moves onto Mayo's shoulders. A lot of neutrals and the media will now think that Mayo can and should win this. Dublin will be delighted with that. Mayo threw everything at Dublin yesterday even pre-game mental tactics in the tunnel yet still came up short. That will have them worried. I don't buy the OG thing and Dublin relying on them. The fact is that Dublin were opening Mayo up at will at that stage, 3 one on ones in close proximity. This will give Dublin great heart. Had they needed to put the foot down and chase the game I think Dublin would have found another gear. Dublin are always better when chasing scores instead of defending leads, just look at their big results over the years, almost always coming from behind. I think we will see a different game the next day but Dublin have to greatly improve up front."
I agree with a lot of what you're saying. But after 2 serious games with Kerry in the semi and this drawn final. Is there a danger Dublin will be flat again. Like KK in the hurling. Having said that i wouldn't compare the Tipp hurlers to Mayo footballers either. One was bridging a 6 yr gap with a team more individually talented than their opponents while Mayo aren't as individually talented as Dublin and have serious 65 yrs baggage, And yesterday was another missed opportunity.

Another angle though is Dublin was Mayo's first division 1 opposition of the year and they can only benefit from that. Their graph is going upwards and after yesterday i don't know where Dublin's is going. Definitely i would drop MDMA, Bernard and Flynn. Ye have too much talent not to freshen things up. That old adage applies never approach a replay or a new season with the same formula, the opposition will have it's home work done. Same goes for Mayo.

As a neutral it's fascinating and shortens the winter!

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 19/09/2016 16:21:57    1916436

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Replying To Laois76:  "I agree with a lot of what you're saying. But after 2 serious games with Kerry in the semi and this drawn final. Is there a danger Dublin will be flat again. Like KK in the hurling. Having said that i wouldn't compare the Tipp hurlers to Mayo footballers either. One was bridging a 6 yr gap with a team more individually talented than their opponents while Mayo aren't as individually talented as Dublin and have serious 65 yrs baggage, And yesterday was another missed opportunity.

Another angle though is Dublin was Mayo's first division 1 opposition of the year and they can only benefit from that. Their graph is going upwards and after yesterday i don't know where Dublin's is going. Definitely i would drop MDMA, Bernard and Flynn. Ye have too much talent not to freshen things up. That old adage applies never approach a replay or a new season with the same formula, the opposition will have it's home work done. Same goes for Mayo.

As a neutral it's fascinating and shortens the winter!"
I would leave MacAuley and Brogan on if its a dry day they will make hay.

Scarabin (Dublin) - Posts: 116 - 19/09/2016 16:36:29    1916449

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Replying To Scarabin:  "I would leave MacAuley and Brogan on if its a dry day they will make hay."
Brogan maybe but McAuley not for me.

I find he does too much shaping around the pitch these days and is liable to pick up cards too (not 25 now!) I think he has lost a bit of the dynamism he had that used break through defences. I know Bastick is a few years older and a little past it too. I don't know who ye'd put with Fenton?

Fenton is the real deal. At 23 he plays like a veteran. Huge fan of his. John Small is coming on game by game. Thought he came across really well on the Sunday Game last night. Modest lad. The most physical half back line (and good ball players) with Small, O'Sullivan and McCarthy that Dublin have had since Heery, Barr and Curran in the 90s.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 19/09/2016 16:48:40    1916463

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Have to say before this game I was very worried that every newspaper article was saying "How will Mayo beat Dublin"... The national media were very disrespectful to a very fine Mayo team and I am sure these articles were referenced in their dressing room.. Mayo proved yesterday how good they are and fought like lions...

In the next two weeks the more I see of this "Dublin team are in decline" and building up Mayo the happier I will be..

MURPHB33 (Dublin) - Posts: 166 - 19/09/2016 16:49:35    1916466

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Im glad it was a draw yesterday because dublins performance was well off the mark.we were there for the taking yesderday. Credit to mayo turning over the 5 point lead in the 2nd half.brogan and flynn didnt show up.rock had a mare as well as MDMA..i think flynn has to be dropped the next day because he hasnt been doing it all year..jim gavins mantra is he picks on form' and after yesterdays no show brogan and flynn have to bite the bullet..i just hope i dont see another sluggish performance from the dubs in a replay..again credit to mayo who looked a lot hungrier yesterday but i just cant help thinking that they missed the boat and dublin will have their card marked now for the replay.i dont mind losing playing well .but to lose playing like yesterday thats a different story..

GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 19/09/2016 17:16:37    1916491

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Replying To CroiGorm:  "Question for Dublin fans. If Connolly had scored a point from that sideline and we'd won, would you have been celebrating as wildly as you would if we'd hammered them or would your celebrations have been more muted based on the way we'd have won it?"
In my case a bit more muted..some will say B.S a win is a win..but the performance yesterday just wasnt worthy of an all ireland in my book..too many dublin players didnt show up.looks like a few players living off their reputations getting a start..has to be at least 2 droppings for the replay. Paul flynn and bernard brogan were nowhere near the standard expected so they have to scrutinised..

GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 19/09/2016 17:37:49    1916502

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Replying To MURPHB33:  "Have to say before this game I was very worried that every newspaper article was saying "How will Mayo beat Dublin"... The national media were very disrespectful to a very fine Mayo team and I am sure these articles were referenced in their dressing room.. Mayo proved yesterday how good they are and fought like lions...

In the next two weeks the more I see of this "Dublin team are in decline" and building up Mayo the happier I will be.."
I disagree if you look on social media and the papers it's mostly about his bad Dublin were and that Mayo have missed the boat as Dublin won't be that bad again. Take a look yourself. The dubs I spoke too were along the same lines last night.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 19/09/2016 17:58:46    1916521

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I disagree if you look on social media and the papers it's mostly about his bad Dublin were and that Mayo have missed the boat as Dublin won't be that bad again. Take a look yourself. The dubs I spoke too were along the same lines last night."
I respect their opinions and hope they continue to stick to their opinions for the next two weeks as everyone is entitled to their opinions !

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 19/09/2016 18:34:48    1916534

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Dubs are on the back foot ! Bit akin to Rocky one! Mayo will have there yo Adrian moment on the 1st.of October. The dubs are running scared and have no where to hide. Where's their A B team now lol! Hon Mayo!!!

moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1080 - 19/09/2016 19:04:20    1916542

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There will be no mistake 2nd time out, Dublin by 3.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 19/09/2016 19:11:43    1916545

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Replying To arock:  "There will be no mistake 2nd time out, Dublin by 3."
No more mistakes, Great!

liner (Mayo) - Posts: 756 - 19/09/2016 19:59:57    1916577

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Momentum is everything & it looks to be with Mayo who if they play attacking football & run at the Dubs will win. Cillian O Connor, Aidan O Shea & Lee Keegan need to take a leaf out of the rest of their teammates book & play football instead of getting involved & Aidan & esp Cillian trying to ref it. Cillian is painful to watch as he bitches & moans to refs, his brother is a superior player by far. So if Mayo take the game to the Dubs they will win as the hunger, legs, desire & support for one anot

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 19/09/2016 20:15:24    1916583

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Support for one another is not there. The Dubs play is too slow, static & lateral allowing Mayo flood back. Fitzsimons, Mannion & Andrews need to start for Dublin in the replay dropping Connolly, Flynn & Mc Manamon.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 19/09/2016 20:19:50    1916586

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Replying To moc.dna:  "Momentum is everything & it looks to be with Mayo who if they play attacking football & run at the Dubs will win. Cillian O Connor, Aidan O Shea & Lee Keegan need to take a leaf out of the rest of their teammates book & play football instead of getting involved & Aidan & esp Cillian trying to ref it. Cillian is painful to watch as he bitches & moans to refs, his brother is a superior player by far. So if Mayo take the game to the Dubs they will win as the hunger, legs, desire & support for one anot"
Cilian scored seven points yesterday, including two monster scores from play: he doesn't need any advice on playing football.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 19/09/2016 20:31:26    1916591

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I fancied Dublin to win easy enough yesterday,I was really impressed with the battle put up by Mayo and they really should have won it, but for the disastrous og's and Andy Moran should have scored that great goal chance he had too, a wee bit of composure and he could have passed it into the net instead of trying to burst it,
I think this myth around this Dublin team being the greatest thing since sliced bread has been proven to be a myth, we showed in 2014 how to beat them, Kerry weren't far away from beating them in the semi and a tough battle from the Mayo men left the Dubs looking a bit clueless, the great Kerry and Tyrone teams of the noughties would have stood up to the battle better I think and ground out a win.
Fellas saying this Dublin team are the best team to ever play Gaelic football is rubbish, the Kerry team of the 70's or 80's would have played them of the pitch.
the replay? If Mayo can put up the same battle again and cut out the stupid mistakes, then I can see Sam heading for the west, I wouldn't have said that a week ago.
Mayo by 2 points.

TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 19/09/2016 20:47:20    1916597

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Replying To moc.dna:  "Support for one another is not there. The Dubs play is too slow, static & lateral allowing Mayo flood back. Fitzsimons, Mannion & Andrews need to start for Dublin in the replay dropping Connolly, Flynn & Mc Manamon."
Dropping Connolly ??? are you serious. He didn't have a great game but he was by no means the worst forward on display yesterday. He tracked back well and did some good things e.g. that pass into Rock that led to the second o.g. No Dub fan would contemplate dropping Connolly.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 19/09/2016 20:53:03    1916602

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