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Replying To jimbodub:  "As soon as I heard "rain"

I knew BB was going to have a below par game

Very rarely plays well in those conditions"
Kerry aren't great in the rain either

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 19/09/2016 13:34:43    1916258

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'yeah dublin didnt perform but mayo did and still needed to kick a last chance score to get a draw on the day'.
hill16no1man

Ye should not complain didn't the Mayo boys not give ye 2 goals to keep ye in the game!!

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 19/09/2016 13:37:50    1916263

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Correct Blast.. The Sunday game analysts last night thought O Shea should have got a black for his challenge on Cooper. The ball dead when he hit him, rough play yellow card correct decision. In all honesty i don't think Dessie, Tomás or Whelo are that stupid to the rules but it makes for good television. I think the Sunday game should have a referee there as a point of reference for major decisions.

Mid Don (Donegal) - Posts: 70 - 19/09/2016 13:38:27    1916264

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People keep saying "Dublin won't play as badly again". Has it occurred to anyone that they played badly because Mayo forced their mistakes, nullified some of the threats, etc.? There still seems to be this delusional belief that Dublin are unstoppable despite what we all saw in front of our own eyes yesterday. They didn't even deserve a draw and I don't think they'll be so much better the next day. Mayo get under Dublin's skin and have shown time and again that they're really the only team in the country who can consistently do this. I really do think Mayo will win the replay.

ZeitChrist (UK) - Posts: 154 - 19/09/2016 13:42:04    1916272

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Replying To ZeitChrist:  "People keep saying "Dublin won't play as badly again". Has it occurred to anyone that they played badly because Mayo forced their mistakes, nullified some of the threats, etc.? There still seems to be this delusional belief that Dublin are unstoppable despite what we all saw in front of our own eyes yesterday. They didn't even deserve a draw and I don't think they'll be so much better the next day. Mayo get under Dublin's skin and have shown time and again that they're really the only team in the country who can consistently do this. I really do think Mayo will win the replay."
I bet my life that Dublin will score more than 9 points in the replay.

Mayo where excellent yesterday, They absolutely did nullify us.

Did they win though ?

No.

Dublins defence was also brilliant and we stopped them playing.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 19/09/2016 13:56:40    1916281

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Replying To waynoI:  "I bet my life that Dublin will score more than 9 points in the replay.

Mayo where excellent yesterday, They absolutely did nullify us.

Did they win though ?

No.

Dublins defence was also brilliant and we stopped them playing."
Correct. Dublin forwards played very badly yesterday. This is the same forward line that beat Mayo by 12 points in Castlebar in the league last year and by 7 points in the semi last year. They opened up Mayo 3 or 4 times yesterday, had 10 wides by the 60 minute, played terribly yet were 3 points up with a minute to go in the 70. If it's dry the next day I just don't see Mayo containing them. But anything can happen.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 19/09/2016 14:18:59    1916307

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Replying To waynoI:  "I bet my life that Dublin will score more than 9 points in the replay.

Mayo where excellent yesterday, They absolutely did nullify us.

Did they win though ?

No.

Dublins defence was also brilliant and we stopped them playing."
They might score more than 9 points, but let's not pretend that the likes of Brogan and Flynn have had their shooting boots on all year and just suddenly lost form yesterday. Dublin won't be gifted two own goals the next day either and Mayo could score more of their own, especially if they get Aiden O'Shea into the game more. Dublin might have room to improve, but so do Mayo. There's more than one team in it and neither played to their full potential, but Mayo have shown time and again that they have the tools to frustrate Dublin and disrupt their rhythm. And perhaps their greatest asset is that they don't seem to believe the hype about Dublin and aren't beaten before they go onto the pitch, like many other teams seem to be.

ZeitChrist (UK) - Posts: 154 - 19/09/2016 14:31:58    1916323

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "And yet they can still grind out results when they play badly, which is the sign of a great team.

The truth is Dublin can't win no matter what they do in the eyes of the begrudgers.

They hammer Mayo the narrative will be Mayo are rubbish not a sign of Dublin being great, they just scrape past Mayo the story is Dublin aren't great sure they should be hammering them.

Dublin are missing 2 of their 6 best defenders from last year one of whom is footballer of the year.There aren't too many teams in history who would cope with that."
That's what happens when you're the champions kid.
People pick our achievements apart all the time and we don't have any of the advantages that the dubs have.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 19/09/2016 14:34:51    1916324

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Replying To ZeitChrist:  "They might score more than 9 points, but let's not pretend that the likes of Brogan and Flynn have had their shooting boots on all year and just suddenly lost form yesterday. Dublin won't be gifted two own goals the next day either and Mayo could score more of their own, especially if they get Aiden O'Shea into the game more. Dublin might have room to improve, but so do Mayo. There's more than one team in it and neither played to their full potential, but Mayo have shown time and again that they have the tools to frustrate Dublin and disrupt their rhythm. And perhaps their greatest asset is that they don't seem to believe the hype about Dublin and aren't beaten before they go onto the pitch, like many other teams seem to be."
Yet they still haven't beaten Dublin. That must be a massive blow to Mayo. They are going to be under huge pressure now with the heavy underdog tag dropped, tactics now exposed and all of the pressure that comes with still not having delivered, even with Dublin playing the worst they have played for years. Having thrown the kitchen sink at Dublin and coming up short again, it will be intetesting to see if they can pick themselves up from yesterday's game to do it all again.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 19/09/2016 15:33:02    1916368

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Have this Dublin team peaked ? I would say they might. On what we saw yesterday and in the semi final they are not in front of Kerry or Mayo by very much
No excuses for BB and the rain-- he was poor against Donegal , was not great againstKerry and poor yesterday. Flynn also not in form like he was
I think Mayo will win the replay but they must use possession better. Both S oS and K Higgans were guilty of giving away a lot of ball yesterday But I thought Mayo's tackling was good yesterday and gave Dublin little time on the ball.
Mayo have never really got the rub of the green in big games recently, first half yesterday they were really unlucky but you can't question their mental resolve yesterday. Other teams would have folded after conceding two OG's but Mayo kept grinding
I definitely think Dublin are coming back to the pack and I don't think there are many days left in B B or MDMA What if DC retires - he is still Dublin's outstanding player and must say he gets a lot of stick
Still with all his quirks he is some player , probably the best this last ten years.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 19/09/2016 15:38:26    1916377

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "That's what happens when you're the champions kid.
People pick our achievements apart all the time and we don't have any of the advantages that the dubs have."
You have the advantage of no expectation and that's the biggest advantage of all. Everyone expects the Dubs to win all of the time. That's a huge weight to carry. Mayo lost that advantage yesterday by going close. There will be huge expectation on them now to repeat yesterday's performance and break the curse. The Dubs on the other hand have nothing to lose now as expectation will have been dampened, too old, key players underperforming, burn out etc etc.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 19/09/2016 15:39:24    1916380

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Is there an argument to suggest that Brogan and Flynn are declining?"
absolutely.

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 19/09/2016 15:41:40    1916383

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AOS scored a goal and Ref had blown for a free out - could anyone see what the free was for, as I could not

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 19/09/2016 15:53:25    1916402

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Replying To browncows:  "'yeah dublin didnt perform but mayo did and still needed to kick a last chance score to get a draw on the day'.
hill16no1man

Ye should not complain didn't the Mayo boys not give ye 2 goals to keep ye in the game!!"
They hardly gave us two goals
They were forced into two errors it's not as if they were knocking the ball around and it went in by accident.
dublin could have had the ball in the net twice before it went in off McLaughlin foot with Fenton and brogan having shots. Then the second one saw a superb ball from Connolly put Dean rock in on goal had he not spilled the ball he had one on one. Also if the mayo defender didn't try intercept like he did it's possible rock would have gathered the ball and scored. So they were unfortunate how they went in for mayo perspective but they were both attempts to stop a Dublin player scoring a goal

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 19/09/2016 15:55:29    1916405

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Replying To browncows:  "AOS scored a goal and Ref had blown for a free out - could anyone see what the free was for, as I could not"
Agree with you 100% and there was a complete absence of discussion on that incident during any analysis I saw anyway. O'Shea won his ball fairly and goaled, not a sniff of a foul that I could see.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 20/09/2016 00:25:51    1916707

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Replying To browncows:  "AOS scored a goal and Ref had blown for a free out - could anyone see what the free was for, as I could not"
You couldn't see because you were wearing blinkers..

Clear push on the Dublin full back even the Mayo fans beside me could see it from the top of the cusack stand

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 20/09/2016 04:10:57    1916719

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Replying To browncows:  "AOS scored a goal and Ref had blown for a free out - could anyone see what the free was for, as I could not"
I'm no expert but perhaps it was for the two handed push into the Dublin defenders back as the ball was coming in.

AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 20/09/2016 05:55:36    1916720

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Replying To Richieq:  "Agree with you 100% and there was a complete absence of discussion on that incident during any analysis I saw anyway. O'Shea won his ball fairly and goaled, not a sniff of a foul that I could see."
Game has been assigned to history books
Time to look forward to the All Ireland Final in two weeks

Scarabin (Dublin) - Posts: 116 - 20/09/2016 07:36:16    1916725

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Replying To superbluedub:  "absolutely."
Flynn is 30 and has covered so much ground over the years.With the way he likes to play the game it has to be difficult to keep that up at this stage.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/09/2016 07:47:01    1916727

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "That's what happens when you're the champions kid.
People pick our achievements apart all the time and we don't have any of the advantages that the dubs have."
Sure Meath were dong well,we were dirty c****s etc. But Dublin etc are just very physical. :)

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/09/2016 07:50:24    1916729

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