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Replying To JayP:  "I'm not starting an argument here. But just over 21000 fans attended McHale Park for the Connacht Final in 2013 for Mayo v London. The grounds capacity is 38000. Now give or take of 2000 to 3000 were London/Neutral fans etc, Mayo had about18000-19000 fans at the game. By the time the final came around there were more Mayo fans in Croke Park than Dublin fans. Now I know Mayo fans will say they were in the Minor Final, I get that. But there was some jump in Support from 18000 fans against London in McHale Park.

Dublin seem to get less tickets as the competition goes on compared to their attendences earlier in the competition. Mayo seem to get more tickets as the competition goes on. I cant figure that out.

So while I understand how many fans will be left disappointed out Wessssht, spare a thought for the mayhem and scramble for tickets here in Dublin. A whole lot of Dubs are gonna be fuming when they stadium is green and red this Sunday."
Your always harping on about this. So you reckon Croke park on all Ireland final day should be handing out tickets based on population? You should look at our population and see how many attend our games per head of population. You also need to factor in our very diaspora that come home for finals. Flights from the US and UK will be thronged with Mayo people over the next two days.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 15/09/2016 23:41:59    1914913

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Replying To JayP:  "I'm not starting an argument here. But just over 21000 fans attended McHale Park for the Connacht Final in 2013 for Mayo v London. The grounds capacity is 38000. Now give or take of 2000 to 3000 were London/Neutral fans etc, Mayo had about18000-19000 fans at the game. By the time the final came around there were more Mayo fans in Croke Park than Dublin fans. Now I know Mayo fans will say they were in the Minor Final, I get that. But there was some jump in Support from 18000 fans against London in McHale Park.

Dublin seem to get less tickets as the competition goes on compared to their attendences earlier in the competition. Mayo seem to get more tickets as the competition goes on. I cant figure that out.

So while I understand how many fans will be left disappointed out Wessssht, spare a thought for the mayhem and scramble for tickets here in Dublin. A whole lot of Dubs are gonna be fuming when they stadium is green and red this Sunday."
We won't spare a thought at all, nor would we expect Dublin supporters to care if some Mayo supporters can't get a ticket. We've less tickets available than in 2013 as our minors aren't playing. There are tickets available in 30 other counties, moreso Kerry and Galway. Get on the Facebook and plead with friends. Ask people at work, ask the neighbours, group text your contact list, use Watsapp etc. Technology could be your friend in helping you get a ticket. If it isn't then €150 to a tout isn't too bad, though I hate to make a tout happy.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 16/09/2016 00:54:58    1914930

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yew tree
you hardly agree with that bit about dispora being right do you???
why should they get tickets? they havent been attending or supporting the team all year and come home just for the final.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/09/2016 11:14:31    1915007

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "yew tree
you hardly agree with that bit about dispora being right do you???
why should they get tickets? they havent been attending or supporting the team all year and come home just for the final."
Depends on who you're referring to, I think, as it's hard to be accurate when you're generalizing.

Do I, as a member of the diaspora, deserve a ticket more than someone who has been to all of Mayo's games this year? No, can't say I do. However, given that I'm heavily involved in promoting gaelic games as a secretary and player in three codes, do I deserve a ticket more than some of the people that end up getting them? Yes. I certainly deserve one more than the likes of the TDs etc. who wouldn't be seen within an ass's roar of McHale Park...

I also know a lot of Mayo people based in the UK who travel home for all of the championship games and most of the league games. Hard to tell them that they don't deserve a ticket...

I also know of GAA clubs abroad who get calls from Ireland asking for their tickets as "you'll hardly be needing them". When I think of the thousands of km that members of my club travel every year to play gaelic games, such attitudes make me want to...

The GAA's allocation system for All-Ireland finals needs to be overhauled for many reasons, IMO.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 16/09/2016 12:31:23    1915043

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Replying To Gleebo:  "Depends on who you're referring to, I think, as it's hard to be accurate when you're generalizing.

Do I, as a member of the diaspora, deserve a ticket more than someone who has been to all of Mayo's games this year? No, can't say I do. However, given that I'm heavily involved in promoting gaelic games as a secretary and player in three codes, do I deserve a ticket more than some of the people that end up getting them? Yes. I certainly deserve one more than the likes of the TDs etc. who wouldn't be seen within an ass's roar of McHale Park...

I also know a lot of Mayo people based in the UK who travel home for all of the championship games and most of the league games. Hard to tell them that they don't deserve a ticket...

I also know of GAA clubs abroad who get calls from Ireland asking for their tickets as "you'll hardly be needing them". When I think of the thousands of km that members of my club travel every year to play gaelic games, such attitudes make me want to...

The GAA's allocation system for All-Ireland finals needs to be overhauled for many reasons, IMO."
the ones who travel home for games are obviously entitled to one as they have supported the team.
but if a guy comes home just for the final to me dont deserve one ahead of a supporter who has gone all year but just hasnt his name penned to a club of some sort. now i agree with you in the case of td's and others getting tickets ridiculous.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/09/2016 14:36:08    1915118

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "the ones who travel home for games are obviously entitled to one as they have supported the team.
but if a guy comes home just for the final to me dont deserve one ahead of a supporter who has gone all year but just hasnt his name penned to a club of some sort. now i agree with you in the case of td's and others getting tickets ridiculous."
It's kind of hard to give a "right" answer to a question like this IMO, especially given the limited number of tickets relative to demand. Choosing one person or another in some circumstances can be very difficult and depends on what you prioritise- volunteerism on behalf of the GAA or loyal support to one county team.

Personally I believe that the club is the basic unit of the GAA, and that without clubs there would be no county scene, and no Croke Park as we know it today. For that reason I would favour people volunteering in their clubs over non-attached fans, in most cases. I know that you feel differently.

As regards the international units, the small proportion of tickets that we get for All-Ireland finals will not increase (it may even decrease) but I believe that the global dimension will become a much bigger part of the GAA as time moves on. We have the greatest games in the world, why not market them properly? But I suppose that's a debate for another day.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 16/09/2016 15:07:20    1915135

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "yew tree
you hardly agree with that bit about dispora being right do you???
why should they get tickets? they havent been attending or supporting the team all year and come home just for the final."
Again it depends...I know plenty of Mayo people involved in the GAA stateside and the UK. I now some coming from OZ....I dunno how they manage to get tickets some of them but they do hunt them out.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 16/09/2016 15:25:15    1915140

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for me id rather see season ticket schemes like the parnell pass and the gaa season ticket and other county schemes having a much larger amount of passes being allowed sold than there is currently. it can only promote the national league better too and reward supporters.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/09/2016 16:07:14    1915153

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Replying To Gleebo:  "It's kind of hard to give a "right" answer to a question like this IMO, especially given the limited number of tickets relative to demand. Choosing one person or another in some circumstances can be very difficult and depends on what you prioritise- volunteerism on behalf of the GAA or loyal support to one county team.

Personally I believe that the club is the basic unit of the GAA, and that without clubs there would be no county scene, and no Croke Park as we know it today. For that reason I would favour people volunteering in their clubs over non-attached fans, in most cases. I know that you feel differently.

As regards the international units, the small proportion of tickets that we get for All-Ireland finals will not increase (it may even decrease) but I believe that the global dimension will become a much bigger part of the GAA as time moves on. We have the greatest games in the world, why not market them properly? But I suppose that's a debate for another day."
Charity begins at home. Tickets for AI finals, which are like hen's teeth anyway, should never be used by the GAA to promote the games. There are plenty of media avenues that can be exploited to do this. The final should be for the fans, not for corporate Ireland and certainly not for self publicists in government circles and their cronies. Regular attendees should be the priority followed by those at club level who put the work in on the ground. If John Delaney's big mutton head pops up on screen on Sunday I won't be able to restrain myself.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 16/09/2016 16:07:43    1915154

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Replying To Joxer:  "Charity begins at home. Tickets for AI finals, which are like hen's teeth anyway, should never be used by the GAA to promote the games. There are plenty of media avenues that can be exploited to do this. The final should be for the fans, not for corporate Ireland and certainly not for self publicists in government circles and their cronies. Regular attendees should be the priority followed by those at club level who put the work in on the ground. If John Delaney's big mutton head pops up on screen on Sunday I won't be able to restrain myself."
I wasn't suggesting that final tickets would be used for those purposes, but given that a lot of other games in Croke Park fail to sell out, I don't see why they can't be marketed to tourists, in the same way that other indigenous sports are on other countries. But as I said, that's probably one for another thread.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 16/09/2016 17:40:01    1915181

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Replying To Joxer:  "Charity begins at home. Tickets for AI finals, which are like hen's teeth anyway, should never be used by the GAA to promote the games. There are plenty of media avenues that can be exploited to do this. The final should be for the fans, not for corporate Ireland and certainly not for self publicists in government circles and their cronies. Regular attendees should be the priority followed by those at club level who put the work in on the ground. If John Delaney's big mutton head pops up on screen on Sunday I won't be able to restrain myself."
I wasn't suggesting that final tickets would be used for those purposes, but given that a lot of other games in Croke Park fail to sell out, I don't see why they can't be marketed to tourists, in the same way that other indigenous sports are on other countries. But as I said, that's probably one for another thread.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 16/09/2016 17:40:03    1915182

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Replying To Joxer:  "Charity begins at home. Tickets for AI finals, which are like hen's teeth anyway, should never be used by the GAA to promote the games. There are plenty of media avenues that can be exploited to do this. The final should be for the fans, not for corporate Ireland and certainly not for self publicists in government circles and their cronies. Regular attendees should be the priority followed by those at club level who put the work in on the ground. If John Delaney's big mutton head pops up on screen on Sunday I won't be able to restrain myself."
In full agreement with you Joxer.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 16/09/2016 18:14:06    1915192

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Your always harping on about this. So you reckon Croke park on all Ireland final day should be handing out tickets based on population? You should look at our population and see how many attend our games per head of population. You also need to factor in our very diaspora that come home for finals. Flights from the US and UK will be thronged with Mayo people over the next two days."
I think you'll find I said attendance not population. So I dont know what you think Im harping on about.

Im just pointing out Dublins attendances are higher than Mayos, but Mayo will get more tickets for the final than Dublin. That baffles me. Its a kick in the teeth for supporters who turn up for the early rounds and Provincial decider.

What that really means, is a lot of fairweather Mayo fans will get tickets. I dont buy this planes, trains and automobiles line people throw out. If I didnt turn up all year I wouldnt want a ticket for the final. I certainly would feel bad walking into the club local looking at people who were at every game and cant get a ticket for the final.

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 16/09/2016 18:55:43    1915204

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "We won't spare a thought at all, nor would we expect Dublin supporters to care if some Mayo supporters can't get a ticket. We've less tickets available than in 2013 as our minors aren't playing. There are tickets available in 30 other counties, moreso Kerry and Galway. Get on the Facebook and plead with friends. Ask people at work, ask the neighbours, group text your contact list, use Watsapp etc. Technology could be your friend in helping you get a ticket. If it isn't then €150 to a tout isn't too bad, though I hate to make a tout happy."
I have a ticket. But I know lots of people who dont that attended every game this year.

Ps. Touts.....Id rather cut my b*%*$ off!!!!

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 16/09/2016 18:58:45    1915205

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Here's a breakdown of where the tickets are going this year: link

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 16/09/2016 19:28:16    1915213

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the brekadown says the capacity is 82,006 whereas croke parks capacity is 82,300.
plus that season ticket numbers has to be wrong

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/09/2016 20:11:58    1915224

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "the brekadown says the capacity is 82,006 whereas croke parks capacity is 82,300.
plus that season ticket numbers has to be wrong"
Was thinking the exact same. Season ticket numbers are definitely wrong.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 16/09/2016 20:44:31    1915228

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JayP you ate failing again to see the point. Why do Dublin have a bigger fan base than every other county ? It's population man plain and simple

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 16/09/2016 21:33:10    1915240

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its an issue in all sports with the sponsors and the politicians getting tickets for the big day..i do think with a restructure of the championship gaa fans would be able to get a better more legitimate season ticket and obviously these people should be catered to first along with players involved etc

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 16/09/2016 23:37:49    1915265

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This is stiupid coming from me because I am going on Sunday but I do believe neutrals like myself should not be able to get anywhere a ticket unless they are in Mayo or Dublin.Not that it would stop me from going when I do get them

I do think they should scrap all clubs around the country( apart from competing ones obviously) getting tickets and maybe schools and coperate premium tickets should be released for the two final counties fans but its the gaa and sadly this is how it is.

This leaves so many neutrals .You can spot the them all over the place on finalday ,no jersey or colours and a match programme in hand ,
I myself will be one of those fools but I know there's fans all over Dublin and Mayo who it would value a ticket 100 times more than myself

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 17/09/2016 02:49:55    1915280

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