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Tyrone first all-Ireland appearance in 11 years in 1984 saw them go to the hill first then the dubs followed them down. It was a good laught but had any team done this before that. Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 14/09/2016 09:24:13 1914078 Link 0 |
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Honestly don't think you can say it had nothing to do with winning the game that day: Mayo scored the first four points of the game and it took Dublin a long time to get on the scoreboard. Given that they'd been flying out of the blocks in their previous championship games that year, Dublin did seem rattled and this may have contributed to their slow start.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 14/09/2016 09:47:52 1914086 Link 0 |
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That particular Dublin team played in fits and bursts every time. They could have a big purple patch and rattle off scores and have 15minutes where they would leak heavily. We were seven points up with 15minutes to go so if anything it was Dublin who put themselves in a winning position and mayo winning of the game was there resilience in that last fifteen minutes to feel Dublin In, plus from a Dublin point of view replacing the two wing forwards at that time cosgrove and Bonner who were doing a very successful job of keeping mayo wing backs facing their own goal when they were taken off the two mayo wing backs were central to mayo reeling off the scores.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 14/09/2016 10:27:10 1914101 Link 0 |
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Moving Shane Ryan, who was playing great stuff, back to centre back and then taking him off did ye no favours either.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 14/09/2016 10:46:54 1914105 Link 0 |
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Fair points, especially about the Mayo wing backs. Always thought that Peadar Gardiner was underrated by the Mayo support.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 14/09/2016 10:56:24 1914109 Link 0 |
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Ciaran McDonald had some game that day. He was virtually unplayable. I was sure Mayo would beat Kerry after that match. Mickmick (Dublin) - Posts: 104 - 14/09/2016 11:37:33 1914128 Link 1 |
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Dublin's lack of a skilled free taker was very costly across that time jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 14/09/2016 11:39:45 1914129 Link 0 |
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Jesus Christ,Ciaran McDonald, there's a blast from the past .A true legend of the game. I don't think I can remember seeing as skilled of a player in my life time(I am still just about in my twenties), I think a young Gooch comes close but Ciaran McD for me was a joy to watch unless playing against him,them outside of the boot ping balls,the Messi of GAA. Yes Connolly is great and Peter Canavan was our best man , but none for me come close for me to the level of skill that Ciaran Mc had in his prime. GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 14/09/2016 12:05:09 1914137 Link 0 |
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He was brilliant alright, probably my favourite player to watch. He played like he really enjoyed the game and never really got the recognition he deserved imo. He broke my heart in 2006 though.
Mickmick (Dublin) - Posts: 104 - 14/09/2016 12:31:17 1914147 Link 0 |
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He didn't get the recognition he deserved in Mayo either. I remember watching him against my local club and he kicked points from either sideline. He was deceptively strong and when he got a yard of space he was deadly. We had him presenting medals at the club and he seemed a really nice lad. Wish we had him on Sunday in his prime.
Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 14/09/2016 14:53:45 1914199 Link 0 |
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Don't agree with not having a skilled free taker as Mark Vaughan was in the team that day and like him or not from dead balls he was very accurate I think was around that year he kicked one from the half way line against Meath in leinster, he was also very unlucky with a monster free at the end from way out under the cusack stand that came off the bar and stayed out.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 14/09/2016 15:13:28 1914211 Link 0 |
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Did Cluxton take frees for Parnells for a long time before he took them for the county ? I'm probably wrong but I can't remember him taking any frees for Dublin before Gilroy. A player who looks he practices for hours not just on the goalkeeping but on kick outs and frees. Other keepers look more like last ditch efforts cos they have distance for a long free but poor accuracy.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 14/09/2016 15:28:34 1914218 Link 0 |
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hill16no1man jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 14/09/2016 15:46:56 1914224 Link 0 |
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Anyway just my opinion but the lack of a dead ball specialist was always something that stood out for me back then jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 14/09/2016 15:54:27 1914232 Link 0 |
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Cluxton misses as many, maybe more than Mossy Quinn etc Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 14/09/2016 15:56:34 1914233 Link 0 |
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He does miss some no doubt, but he's not been taking many over the last couple of seasons I'd still have preferred to see Cluxton behind a 45 than Mossy in his day! I think Mossy would have preferred it too at times, always felt that put added pressure on his game, and had an impact on his performance at times, for me he is probably one of the best goal finishers Dublin has ever had, far from the best free kick taker though although he nailed some pressure ones in his time and that of course is to his credit. Brogan made a big difference out of the hands when he got the duty from 2010 and then we finally found a more reliable 45" / long distance kicker in Cluxton which won us an AI in 2011. Its a valuable component to the overall picture that we lacked back in the 00's IMO and some of our most important scores have come from high pressure dead ball in the last 5 years, which again IMO we would have stood a far higher chance of missing in the 00's From watching a lot of football over those years, we have vastly improved in that sector. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 14/09/2016 16:45:21 1914254 Link 0 |
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Keaney missed a tap over free in 2006, just before half time. It was on his favoured side but he put it wide of the near post. Mayo went straight down the other end and scored before the break. I'm certainly not saying that was the winning and losing of the game but every little bit counts. Keaney put over several frees in a blue shirt but he was never hugely reliable from a dead ball and he was the best left footed option we had at that time. Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 14/09/2016 16:45:51 1914255 Link 1 |
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We were a wee bit ropey at the dead ball back then alright I had forgotten about that one, such an odd day, I think we also hit the cross bar and post a few times! Mayo of course deserved it of course but we didn't help ourselves a lot either back then But we were at the top end of our ability across that time and it showed at times with limited options in key areas against the better teams One of those areas IMO was from dead ball. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 14/09/2016 16:56:36 1914260 Link 0 |
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yeah he was taking them for parnells before dublin but he was playing outfield for parnells at the time. he used to be out a half hour before anybody else arrived during pillars days kicking an amount from the 14 yard line over the bar, then out to the 21 yard line same amount, then out to the 45 and same amount again, so was fairly honing that ability to kick frees before he took first one for dublin. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 14/09/2016 17:55:15 1914295 Link 0 |
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yeah quinn started the game alright but in terms of a skilled free taker vaughan was very strong at free taking. more so than bernard brogan who was taking the frees from 2011-2014 and we won two all irelands in that time. vaughan was at a similiar cross roads to diurmuid connolly if the turth is told. maybe if he was given the same chances by management in 2009-2010 time we may have seen him become a top player who knows. hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 14/09/2016 18:02:33 1914300 Link 0 |