|
Few things that many fans/players/officials and even referees don't seem to know or understand about the playing rules: (feel free to add a few to the list)
In hurling when a free is being taken all other players must be 20 metres from the ball. (This is often ignored. Example is the free of Seamus Callanans that was blocked in the All Ireland.) In football all players must be 13 metres away.
In hurling you are not allowed to make a divot to place the ball for a sideline cut. Ignored always by officials.
Both codes: the difference between retaliation and an off the ball incident is often misunderstood. I've seen a player win a free then a fight breaks out at other end of the pitch and referee cancels the free and throws ball in. Totally wrong. Off the ball incidents should be dealt with separately.
Hurling: Players have to be 13metres away when a sideline cut is STRUCK, but once it is struck they can move towards the ball and receive it closer than 13 metres.
Both codes: A referee is not supposed to stop the game for injuries except for head injuries. And injured players are supposed to be treated off the pitch unless unable due to the nature of the injury.
Football: A black card can only be given if the infringement is DELIBERATE.
Hurling: A referee should not warn a goalkeeper not to come out of the square when pucking out the ball. The goalkeeper should know the rules. It seems to have become common to give a warning first. This is wrong.
Hurling: At a throw in if one player decides to put his leg forward and the other decides to pull and hits the opponents leg, this is not a free. If the player decides to use his leg instead of a hurl then the chances are it will be hit.
890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 10/09/2016 22:56:39
1912640
Link
0
|
|
1.2 When the ball is on the ground, it may be played by any part of the body except the hand(s). It may be lifted off the ground with the feet.
Exceptions
(i) The goalkeeper may play the ball on the ground with his hand(s) inside his own small rectangle.
(ii) Any player who falls or is knocked to the ground while in possession of the ball may fist or palm the ball away on the ground, and may score by so doing.
This one has annoyed me for a while, got penalised for this on a few occasions as ref didn't know the rules.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4248 - 11/09/2016 00:57:24
1912664
Link
1
|
|
No surprise that my comments about Dublin are censored. The Southern media have to be admired in their North Korean defence of Dublin. It's the main reason Gaelic Game are on the arse but sure why tell the truth?
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9719 - 11/09/2016 01:10:45
1912666
Link
0
|
|
Replying To Whammo86: "1.2 When the ball is on the ground, it may be played by any part of the body except the hand(s). It may be lifted off the ground with the feet.
Exceptions
(i) The goalkeeper may play the ball on the ground with his hand(s) inside his own small rectangle.
(ii) Any player who falls or is knocked to the ground while in possession of the ball may fist or palm the ball away on the ground, and may score by so doing.
This one has annoyed me for a while, got penalised for this on a few occasions as ref didn't know the rules." I've always been intrigued by the second exception to this rule, but have never seen it occur, never mind be penalised incorrectly.
Imagine the uproar and mayhem it would cause if some scored a goal on Sunday, fisting the ball on the ground after taking a tumble.
m_the_d (None) - Posts: 1099 - 11/09/2016 11:56:52
1912706
Link
0
|
|
.........................................The player taking the puck-out may strike the ball more than once before another player touches it................
tommy58 (Dublin) - Posts: 169 - 11/09/2016 21:55:23
1912940
Link
0
|
|
2.1 The Referee, facing the players, starts the game and restarts it after half-time, by throwing in the ball between two players from each team, who shall stand one behind the other in their own defensive sides of the half-way line. All other players shall be in their respective positions behind the 45m lines.
Refs don't seem to mind players encroaching the 65m line, let alone the 45m line.
2.2 (v) All players except the player taking the free kick shall be at least 13m from where the free kick is awarded, or, all players except those two contesting the throw-in shall be at least 13m from where the throw in is awarded.
I can't remember the last time (if ever) I saw less than 8-9 players crowded around the two lads going for the throw in.
Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 12/09/2016 15:11:25
1913116
Link
0
|
|
Whamm86
As a referee ( who feels like quitting) the rule whereby a player can play the ball on the ground and score, when in a grounded position is known, but 98% of the GAA public would lynch you if you the referee if corner forward played the ball on the ground with his hand and scored.....
cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 12/09/2016 15:42:06
1913138
Link
0
|
|
If the ball hits the corner flag its a sideline ball
FrankAnnyalla (Monaghan) - Posts: 339 - 12/09/2016 15:56:54
1913145
Link
0
|
|
Replying To cuchulainn35: "Whamm86
As a referee ( who feels like quitting) the rule whereby a player can play the ball on the ground and score, when in a grounded position is known, but 98% of the GAA public would lynch you if you the referee if corner forward played the ball on the ground with his hand and scored....." I agree Cuchulainn. I have never seen a player actually score this way but I have seen refs correctly allow players to play a ball on the ground in this situation only to be immediately subjected to roars of abuse from players and spectators.
Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 1000 - 12/09/2016 16:50:07
1913168
Link
0
|
|
Surely the following rules of GAA football are the most commonly breached. 4 steps my eye. And it is not just Dublin players. Check our Stephen O'Brien's point for Kerry in the Semi-Final.
"When a player is in possession of the ball, it
may be:-
(a) carried for a maximum of four consecutive
steps or held in the hand(s) for no longer
than the time needed to take four steps;
(b) played from the foot to the hand(s) -toetapped;
(c) bounced once, and once after each toetap;
(e) struck with the open hand(s) or fist,
provided there is a definite striking action;
(f) tossed for a kick, a toe-tap or a pass with
the hand(s).
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 12/09/2016 16:51:30
1913169
Link
0
|
|
Replying To avonali: "Surely the following rules of GAA football are the most commonly breached. 4 steps my eye. And it is not just Dublin players. Check our Stephen O'Brien's point for Kerry in the Semi-Final.
"When a player is in possession of the ball, it
may be:-
(a) carried for a maximum of four consecutive
steps or held in the hand(s) for no longer
than the time needed to take four steps;
(b) played from the foot to the hand(s) -toetapped;
(c) bounced once, and once after each toetap;
(e) struck with the open hand(s) or fist,
provided there is a definite striking action;
(f) tossed for a kick, a toe-tap or a pass with
the hand(s)." Any ref who decided to consistently apply this rule would likely come in for severe criticism for being "overly fussy". Many GAA people seem to think that rules are just rough guidelines and the ref needs to use his "common sense" to decide when to apply them and when to ignore them. Then, when players get frustrated by inconsistent refereeing and tempers boil over, the ref is criticized for not keeping control of the game. They just can't win. I find it remarkable that we can still find people who are willing to subject themselves to the misery and torture of being a ref.
Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 1000 - 12/09/2016 17:43:08
1913200
Link
1
|
|
Replying To cuchulainn35: "Whamm86
As a referee ( who feels like quitting) the rule whereby a player can play the ball on the ground and score, when in a grounded position is known, but 98% of the GAA public would lynch you if you the referee if corner forward played the ball on the ground with his hand and scored....." I'm very sorry you get such abuse you feel like quitting.
I never scored from this rule but have played the ball on the ground in this way and refs have called frees against me.
The rule is actually there for a reason if you do get knocked to the ground and the ball is loose you should be allowed to play it, it's not like when there's been a contest for possession.
If someone scores from it, the score should stand. It's the rule. It isn't even open for interpretation.
As for getting lynched if you were to give it, I completely agree it is a disgrace the way some treat the referees but I mean would it be any worse than what happens if a dodgy red card is given? You still have to hand out red cards if you think they're justified.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4248 - 12/09/2016 21:45:52
1913283
Link
0
|
|
Replying To avonali: "Surely the following rules of GAA football are the most commonly breached. 4 steps my eye. And it is not just Dublin players. Check our Stephen O'Brien's point for Kerry in the Semi-Final.
"When a player is in possession of the ball, it
may be:-
(a) carried for a maximum of four consecutive
steps or held in the hand(s) for no longer
than the time needed to take four steps;
(b) played from the foot to the hand(s) -toetapped;
(c) bounced once, and once after each toetap;
(e) struck with the open hand(s) or fist,
provided there is a definite striking action;
(f) tossed for a kick, a toe-tap or a pass with
the hand(s)." about to open a can of worms here I fear, but. . .
does point (f) mean Joe Sheridan's goal in 2010 was legitimate?
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5028 - 13/09/2016 08:59:24
1913399
Link
0
|
|
Replying To cavanman47: " Replying To avonali: "Surely the following rules of GAA football are the most commonly breached. 4 steps my eye. And it is not just Dublin players. Check our Stephen O'Brien's point for Kerry in the Semi-Final.
"When a player is in possession of the ball, it
may be:-
(a) carried for a maximum of four consecutive
steps or held in the hand(s) for no longer
than the time needed to take four steps;
(b) played from the foot to the hand(s) -toetapped;
(c) bounced once, and once after each toetap;
(e) struck with the open hand(s) or fist,
provided there is a definite striking action;
(f) tossed for a kick, a toe-tap or a pass with
the hand(s)." about to open a can of worms here I fear, but. . . does point (f) mean Joe Sheridan's goal in 2010 was legitimate?"
The laws on scoring will take precedence.
You can't score from running the ball over the line or a fist pass, something in there will cover the Joe "goal"
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4248 - 13/09/2016 10:01:23
1913427
Link
0
|
|
Replying To Whammo86: "I'm very sorry you get such abuse you feel like quitting.
I never scored from this rule but have played the ball on the ground in this way and refs have called frees against me.
The rule is actually there for a reason if you do get knocked to the ground and the ball is loose you should be allowed to play it, it's not like when there's been a contest for possession.
If someone scores from it, the score should stand. It's the rule. It isn't even open for interpretation.
As for getting lynched if you were to give it, I completely agree it is a disgrace the way some treat the referees but I mean would it be any worse than what happens if a dodgy red card is given? You still have to hand out red cards if you think they're justified." My understanding of this rule is that you must still be in possession of the ball while on the ground before being allowed play it on the ground. If you drop the ball when hitting the ground you cannot play it on the ground as it's no longer in your possession. Open to correction tho.
mhaith_fear (Donegal) - Posts: 75 - 13/09/2016 10:49:45
1913462
Link
0
|
|
Isn't there a rule that you can play a one handed fist pass if one of your arms is impeded by an opponent? I did that once in a championship match and the opposition went nuts, but the ref allowed play to go on.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 13/09/2016 10:57:31
1913472
Link
0
|
|
Replying To Whammo86: " Replying To cavanman47: "[quote=avonali: "Surely the following rules of GAA football are the most commonly breached. 4 steps my eye. And it is not just Dublin players. Check our Stephen O'Brien's point for Kerry in the Semi-Final.
"When a player is in possession of the ball, it
may be:-
(a) carried for a maximum of four consecutive
steps or held in the hand(s) for no longer
than the time needed to take four steps;
(b) played from the foot to the hand(s) -toetapped;
(c) bounced once, and once after each toetap;
(e) struck with the open hand(s) or fist,
provided there is a definite striking action;
(f) tossed for a kick, a toe-tap or a pass with
the hand(s)." about to open a can of worms here I fear, but. . . does point (f) mean Joe Sheridan's goal in 2010 was legitimate?"
The laws on scoring will take precedence.
You can't score from running the ball over the line or a fist pass, something in there will cover the Joe "goal""]But he didn't run it over the line or "throw" it exactly. . .he "tossed" it for a kick as per the allowable rule. He just failed to connect with his kick.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5028 - 13/09/2016 11:27:25
1913495
Link
0
|
|
The Keeper issue has been done to death but I've a question about the actual black card given to Hennelly.
My understanding is that the replacement player comes on in the next break in play. If that's true then technically Clarke couldn't have stood for the penalty, unless Mayo subbed another player to get him on the field. Anyone know if this is correct?
Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 03/10/2016 09:28:31
1921736
Link
0
|
|
Replying To Superglue: "The Keeper issue has been done to death but I've a question about the actual black card given to Hennelly.
My understanding is that the replacement player comes on in the next break in play. If that's true then technically Clarke couldn't have stood for the penalty, unless Mayo subbed another player to get him on the field. Anyone know if this is correct?" Some referees have insisted on this but it's not actually a rule.
When Cooper was black carded, his replacement was on immediately
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5028 - 03/10/2016 09:54:41
1921745
Link
0
|
|
Replying To Superglue: "The Keeper issue has been done to death but I've a question about the actual black card given to Hennelly.
My understanding is that the replacement player comes on in the next break in play. If that's true then technically Clarke couldn't have stood for the penalty, unless Mayo subbed another player to get him on the field. Anyone know if this is correct?" Actually Rob Hennelly did'nt award the penalty. It wasReferee who decided it . There was as always a lack of consistency and underhand pressure on officials. There is also inexplicable decision not to support them with tmo. and other aids.No black card for Small but yes for lessor offences. Were officials 'encouraged' to look out for certain opportunities/watch certain players. This all adds up to unreasonable stress on amateur players and officials.
Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 519 - 03/10/2016 10:06:58
1921749
Link
0
|