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"Fresh TV Rights Deal"

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Replying To royaldunne:  "But is attending a match value for money? Taking all into consideration, is the season ticket value for money?"
See the thing is there's an alternative to the season ticket. Just go to the selection of individual games that you want to go to.

With Sky you can't do that.

1 unit of sky is a €240 subscription.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4235 - 13/09/2016 20:55:41    1913919

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Replying To ROS1:  "The only reason sky are interested in the gaa is to keep there irish subscriptions in the summer months the have no interest in showing the league when the premier league and euro rugby is on. Putting the league on sky would be a disaster for it, when you see championship games only getting 7 thousand people on sky no one would see the games."
sure the league is already on a subscription channel or some of the games?...like lose the bias

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 13/09/2016 21:12:57    1913929

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Replying To ROS1:  "If everyone takes your attitude then no one is going to train the underage, been on the finance committees, line the pitch, collect on the gate, do unpire, wash the Jerseys etc unless the get paid and then what would happen clubs who already struggling would not be able to pay these people and would fold which would turn alot of people away from the game reducting ticket sales and donations."
what has a subscription tv channel that has mostly qualifier games got to do with training an underage team and various other club duties?..why are u dealing in hyperbole and hysteria..you arent being reasonable...people are not entitled to everything

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 13/09/2016 21:15:06    1913932

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Replying To ROS1:  "What rubbish are you talking about? The above poster is talking about the supporters such as myself who travel the country supporting our counties, go to all our club games, go to club and county games as a neutral, join county supporters groups, maybe pay club membership, do the yearly club lotto, do the weekly club lotto, do the the next door clubs lotto as you know the seller, contribute to various club fundraisers between the underage club, ladies club and the men's club and next door clubs fundraisers as well. Church gate collections, half time draws and raffes the list of money we hand over to the gaa is endless. I think not having to pay alot of money to a foregin station who don't send there revenue in Ireland to watch our games is not much to ask for."
'foreign station' now there it is..clear bias...and your agenda has been shown up...so sky being a british station is an issue is it?

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 13/09/2016 21:16:53    1913933

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sky needs sport..it has damn all sport now that bt has taken half the stuff away from them especially rugby

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 13/09/2016 21:20:52    1913938

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in relation to people being entitled to this and that i dont see why tg4 should be allowed have any games exclusively....i dont have an issue with tg4 but i could argue that im 'entitled' to watch gaa in the language the country actually speaks not the token language spoken by a small minority

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 13/09/2016 21:23:04    1913940

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "How are you getting it son cheap? I think I'm paying over €100 per month for the same thing."
If you threaten to leave they nearly have a coronary.

The cuts they'll give you are serious, it was still more than €20 extra for sky sports for me and I'd been on it 9 years.

The thing about Sky is they actually don't make huge amounts of money off their household business, they'll take the business they might as well but comparatively it's all about the pubs for them.

That's what makes it irritating for all these things, people get priced out of watching live sports so that sky can reap the rewards of people going out and getting locked.

The GAA policy of removing alcohol advertising is somewhat contradicted by the sky monies they're more than happy to take.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4235 - 13/09/2016 21:28:20    1913943

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Replying To alano12:  "in relation to people being entitled to this and that i dont see why tg4 should be allowed have any games exclusively....i dont have an issue with tg4 but i could argue that im 'entitled' to watch gaa in the language the country actually speaks not the token language spoken by a small minority"
Yep exactly, I would love to understand them games , but I'm not entitled cause I like 80% of population don't have a clue what they talking about

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 13/09/2016 21:50:00    1913954

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "How are you getting it son cheap? I think I'm paying over €100 per month for the same thing."
Special offers etc, added it on the mysky, they always have deals. Or just phone them say you thinking of dropping the movies sports etc and they will give a deal, now you have to keep it for six months but that's not a problem. Mine is €68.32 per month, hope that info helps and you get a better deal.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 13/09/2016 21:56:34    1913961

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Replying To alano12:  "yeah lets completely ignore sky production jim mcguinness and james horan who are both considerably better than what was on tv3...be genuine when making points instead of coming out with simplistic stuff like that"
It's still TV3 pundits with the same opinions. Yes McGuiness and Horan are an addition but when TV3 had the rights both of those were on the sideline. I honestly believe if McGuiness was on RTE and Whelan was on Sky you would be singing the praises of Whelan and criticising McGuiness. Just for the record i think Mcguiness is an excellent pundit and he really knows his stuff.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 13/09/2016 22:12:27    1913973

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "They charge an admission fee to attend matches which is no different than a subscription channel charging people to watch the games on it.It really isn't any different but of course some people just want to ignore that because it doesn't suit their argument."
You aren't comparing the same things. Going to a game is a completely different experience to watching it on the TV. You aren't comparing like for like.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 13/09/2016 22:14:23    1913974

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "I just checked Sky's website and it now only €20 per month to add Sky sports to your package.

Pretty good value in fairness and around the same price as a championship ticket and you get to see a lot more than just 70 minutes of action.

Attending live sport is atrocious bad value for money , Sky is ten times better value for money if you are even only half interested in sport."
You do realise you need an existing package to add it to it.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 13/09/2016 22:16:17    1913976

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Like majority in my area I have sky, have it for about 15 years now, the basic sky package is €38 pm , I get sky full package, including all movie channels, on demand, cinema , all sports channels, including F1 channel, (second sport love) for €68 per month. I find it extremely good value works out about 2.20 a day, the kids get all the Disney films etc all included. Couldn't ask for more. I dont see it as a extra cost I see it as great value for money for what you getting,"
RD that's nearly 1000 euro a year (not quite but it's not a kick in the arse off it). A lot of club volunteers don't have that sort of cash lying about.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 13/09/2016 22:18:07    1913982

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Replying To alano12:  "what has a subscription tv channel that has mostly qualifier games got to do with training an underage team and various other club duties?..why are u dealing in hyperbole and hysteria..you arent being reasonable...people are not entitled to everything"
Without those people there would be no tv deal. It's those people that keep the organisation alive, if you can't see that then there is no point debating this issue with anymore.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 13/09/2016 22:19:48    1913983

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Replying To alano12:  "in relation to people being entitled to this and that i dont see why tg4 should be allowed have any games exclusively....i dont have an issue with tg4 but i could argue that im 'entitled' to watch gaa in the language the country actually speaks not the token language spoken by a small minority"
What? TG4 is an Irish language public service broadcaster - serving the public, if you don't like the language turn off the sound, there is nothing "exclusive" about TG4 just push the button doesn't cost that much.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 13/09/2016 22:21:16    1913985

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Yep exactly, I would love to understand them games , but I'm not entitled cause I like 80% of population don't have a clue what they talking about"
Your ignorance is astounding, TG4 Abu

CaogaCuig (Dublin) - Posts: 63 - 14/09/2016 00:18:13    1914049

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What is funny to me is that 'real GAA supporters' object to SKY but not to Setanta/EIR. The arguement is that Setanta/Eir is only League.

But if your are a 'real GAA supporter' you follow all matches League or Championship.

So why is Steanta ok but not SKY?

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 14/09/2016 08:40:27    1914063

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Yep exactly, I would love to understand them games , but I'm not entitled cause I like 80% of population don't have a clue what they talking about
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:9494 - 13/09/2016 21:50:00

It's amazing that the Irish language has such an effect on your eyesight that you can't understand what's going on in a game if it is broadcast in Irish.

I'd say the vast majority of people who have been watching Gaelic Games on TG4 for the past 15 years or so have probably picked up enough Irish from just watching the games to be able to follow what's going on. You don't have to be a Gaeilgeoir or make much effort to pick up on what's going on if you've been watching the games regularly. It doesn't cost you anything extra, not even effort.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13717 - 14/09/2016 09:38:00    1914082

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Replying To witnof:  "What is funny to me is that 'real GAA supporters' object to SKY but not to Setanta/EIR. The arguement is that Setanta/Eir is only League.

But if your are a 'real GAA supporter' you follow all matches League or Championship.

So why is Steanta ok but not SKY?"
I'm not a fan of league games being on setanta. I don't think they should either.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 14/09/2016 11:08:19    1914114

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Yep exactly, I would love to understand them games , but I'm not entitled cause I like 80% of population don't have a clue what they talking about
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:9494 - 13/09/2016 21:50:00

It's amazing that the Irish language has such an effect on your eyesight that you can't understand what's going on in a game if it is broadcast in Irish.

I'd say the vast majority of people who have been watching Gaelic Games on TG4 for the past 15 years or so have probably picked up enough Irish from just watching the games to be able to follow what's going on. You don't have to be a Gaeilgeoir or make much effort to pick up on what's going on if you've been watching the games regularly. It doesn't cost you anything extra, not even effort."
You know from reading RDs comments over the last year or so I think he wishes he was born about 200 miles west.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 14/09/2016 11:09:08    1914115

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