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But most other sports are professional. People involved in the sport end up getting their hands on this cash, this is not the case with the sky deal in the gaa."]how do you know?..you are generalising a whole tv deal based on your own experience of a club....the deal wasnt massive..there isnt enough to go around especially with the gaas obsession with pumping money into dublin and eastern ireland
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 12/09/2016 19:28:06 1913216 Link 0 |
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thats your problem......lets not ignore that there has been massive whinging and a sense of entitlement over it which has dominated the debate instead of any legitimate arguments against the deal.....tv3 were rubbish when they had gaa....to be fair tv3 has a lot more money now and would expect it to be a lot more viable option now
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 12/09/2016 19:31:47 1913218 Link 0 |
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I agree. On top of that having matt cooper as the presenter was a not great, now don't get me wrong matt is fantastic at the politics etc, and not too bad at the rugby. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/09/2016 21:06:42 1913269 Link 1 |
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GAA director general Páraic Duffy has already warned against eliminating the option of pay-per-view deals, addressing the issue in his annual report, "However, any restriction that prohibits the GAA from engaging with all interested parties, including subscription TV providers, would seriously reduce our negotiating power and thus our ability to achieve the true worth of our assets, and would inevitably lead to a greatly reduced media-rights income. In what is already a small pool of potential broadcast partners, we must ensure the existence of a genuine market for our games and maintain the option of engaging with all interested parties, regardless of whether they are free-to-air or subscription providers." Sky viewing figures for the 2015 All-Ireland hurling final represented a dramatic decline of the 2014 figures. The average viewing figures for the Kilkenny-Galway final was only 32,000, compared to 104,000 from the previous year. one of the main criticisms of the Sky deal in the first place was that it was never subjected to the Congress clár, so it was soured from day one, it was always going to be a contentious issue for, if nothing else historic reasons and the fact that we are an amateur organisation that was built on voluntary contributions. Did the GAA ever say it was going exclusively to SKY. Never ?? It didn't have to, their foot is inside the door, thin end of the wedge, baby steps, etc. Was the SKY deal voted and accepted? Yes. It was never subjected to the Congress clár, so no it wasn't. Are the GAA using SKY for the money or increase International coverage? No they are not. It is used to pressure RTE, a leverage if you will. Three part answer, - (a) Probably for money. (b) Increase International coverage. - More games needed for that © It is used to pressure RTE, a leverage if you will. - - - and how will the pressure be applied next year, and the year after.???? And what type of leaverage will be used.?????? Someone called it whinging. - - I would call it, "Debating a contentious issue." supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2908 - 12/09/2016 21:59:34 1913294 Link 3 |
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You do realise the TV3 pundits moved over to sky? Instead of a rugby man they got a girl who was into her horses if memory serves me right.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 12/09/2016 22:37:43 1913313 Link 1 |
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Those of us who were against the sky deal have been proved right by its failure. The very fact that after next Sunday if the current situation stays the same there won't be one game shown on a station that the majority of people can access and in a language that people understand untill the end of May is a crazy situation. ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 12/09/2016 23:59:00 1913342 Link 1 |
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Yes I remeber when sky got the rights people on here saying that the would have better pundits the soon changed there tunes when the just took the tv3 pundits. And even did the impossible and made Matt Cooper look charismatic in comparison to there presenters. People seem to forget that the gaa made clear 3 years ago that the sky deal involved no extra money so all this talk about sky paying for this and that around the country is rubbish. ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 13/09/2016 00:43:33 1913352 Link 1 |
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The vast majority of GAA folk are not the type to believe they are entitled to everything but I believe we are entitled to watch our games for free(tv license). The GAA is an amateur sport built for well over a century on the volunteerism of millions of gaels past and present.Why should these same amateur players and volunteers be expected to pay to watch some of our marquee games.IMO it goes against the ethos of the GAA. I have no problem with sky showing matches but I dont think they or any other subscription channel should have exclusive rights to championship or league matches.If they want to show them exclusively put them on freeview.The GAA would get less money but better that than ending up like the poor natives of manchester.
CaogaCuig (Dublin) - Posts: 63 - 13/09/2016 01:14:32 1913356 Link 1 |
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Well said.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 13/09/2016 10:19:20 1913442 Link 0 |
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I think we should go a step further and allow people into all games for free and stop charging an admission fee.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 13/09/2016 12:21:01 1913527 Link 1 |
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uibhfhaili1986 not going far enough. We should stop all sponsorship as well, as this also only provides for elitism
witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 13/09/2016 12:51:17 1913549 Link 2 |
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What rubbish are you talking about? The above poster is talking about the supporters such as myself who travel the country supporting our counties, go to all our club games, go to club and county games as a neutral, join county supporters groups, maybe pay club membership, do the yearly club lotto, do the weekly club lotto, do the the next door clubs lotto as you know the seller, contribute to various club fundraisers between the underage club, ladies club and the men's club and next door clubs fundraisers as well. Church gate collections, half time draws and raffes the list of money we hand over to the gaa is endless. I think not having to pay alot of money to a foregin station who don't send there revenue in Ireland to watch our games is not much to ask for.
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 13/09/2016 12:59:35 1913554 Link 0 |
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Your descent into sarcasm shows that you are unable to debate & defend the points made. Caogacuig has made very valid points but all yourself & royaldunne have done is label anyone with a different point of view as freeloaders, do nothing brigade, whingers etc which is a massive insult to those of us working & paying 52% tax, it's highly insulting. The level of debate you offer would be very apt in Congress which Ye are very fond of espousing. There is very obviously a vested interest for both of you, that is very clear. The manner in which alternative views or ideas is dealt with in the Gaa is shocking. Behave like sheep & follow the leader that's the way in Gaa today.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 13/09/2016 13:25:07 1913590 Link 0 |
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I think we should go a step further and allow people into all games for free and stop charging an admission fee. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13717 - 13/09/2016 13:53:54 1913617 Link 1 |
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And the fact there was a democratic vote taken by elected officials from each county that supported the deal????? 85% in favour!! Been a noisy minority doesn' t make you right witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 13/09/2016 14:04:19 1913629 Link 1 |
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Of course I do, I watch it all the time and will be watching all ire on sky sports on Sunday, pundits have a lot more in-depth analysis than on tv3, and its actually about the game.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 13/09/2016 14:11:18 1913636 Link 1 |
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i disagree strongly that people are entitled to watch the games for free...you are not entitled to anything..lots of people in the world have to pay for things...we are no different...we also think water should be free in this country
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 13/09/2016 14:11:37 1913637 Link 1 |
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yeah lets completely ignore sky production jim mcguinness and james horan who are both considerably better than what was on tv3...be genuine when making points instead of coming out with simplistic stuff like that
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 13/09/2016 14:13:18 1913638 Link 1 |
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Wrong , sky Ireland employs plenty of people in this country. Can we the put a ban on foreign companies sponsoring teams??? What utter rubbish.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 13/09/2016 14:13:43 1913640 Link 2 |
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id like sky to have the league personally myself and id like tv3 to put in a strong bid for championship rights...the more competition rte gets the better alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 13/09/2016 14:14:59 1913643 Link 1 |