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Replying To gotmilk: "Bullsh*t. Sky isn't expensive for those who can afford it. This is what is wrong with Ireland at the minute. It's the i'm alright Jack mentality. Look at the amount of people living under the poverty line in Ireland. I'm sure Sky isn't to expensive for them. Whats the price of a full sky packet in the RoI anyway?" A quick question for you, do you still reside in Fermanagh? If so its others who are paying their license for those over the border to watch rte games for free, if you pay your license it goes to aunty , not one penny to rte or the gaa for that matter. So should those that pay NOTHING towards watching games on TV not at least have to pay something? I mean I can understand someone paying their tv licence feeling slightly aggrieved about sky, put those in six counties pay nothing, yourself included and still you complain about sky?
Its the new Irish attitudes, I'm entitled, no your not.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/09/2016 14:51:56
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Some people in this country seem to think it is though and use it as a nonsense reason why all games must be free to air.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 11/09/2016 14:54:43
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Replying To royaldunne: "Well said. Its a entitlement culture that has crept into Ireland and those of certain age, the I want it cause I'm entitled, no your bloody well not, I grew up in 70s and 80s where if you wanted something you worked you arse off to get it, for very little money, Jesus when I was 14 I was pitching square bales for £5 , and guess what I wanted to see the Munster final then too but we listened on radio and watched sg that night with enda colleran .
I wasn't looking for it for free cause I'm entitled to it in my selfish opinion. If i wanted it live id drive to thurles or wherever. I pay for sky and while it could be improved, the positivity it invokes is a lot better than the , its all about me brigade on rte. I pay for it and if others want it then pay for it too, if you cant afford it? Well sometimes in life things aren't fair. No onehas a god given right to be entitled to anything." In fairness I would say the majority of people complaining about this issue are of the older generation who grew up in the 70's and 80's or earlier and not younger people.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 11/09/2016 14:56:18
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Replying To royaldunne: "A quick question for you, do you still reside in Fermanagh? If so its others who are paying their license for those over the border to watch rte games for free, if you pay your license it goes to aunty , not one penny to rte or the gaa for that matter. So should those that pay NOTHING towards watching games on TV not at least have to pay something? I mean I can understand someone paying their tv licence feeling slightly aggrieved about sky, put those in six counties pay nothing, yourself included and still you complain about sky?
Its the new Irish attitudes, I'm entitled, no your not." Last time I checked I was buying my licence fee and the BBC had rights to some ulster championship games through a deal with RTE so yes some of my hard earned cash is going to rte and the GAA to watch the native games.
I bet you vote FG RD
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 11/09/2016 16:16:47
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Replying To uibhfhaili1986: "The GAA is not the only sporting organisation in the world with lots of volunteers.
Some people in this country seem to think it is though and use it as a nonsense reason why all games must be free to air." But the games that are behind pay to view walls have people who get paid in all facets of life. The players, stewards, tea ladies, car park attendants are all getting paid in the swansea chelsea game i am currently watching. This is not the case with the gaa. They are trying to have a foot in both the amateur and professional door.
Look if the gaa decided to go pro I would have no issue with them selling out to sky, but they arent. They are an amateur organisation where everyone is supposed to be equal and people do it of their own free will and for the love of the game. With the sky deal you can only love the game if you can afford to love it. If it went pro I would have zero squabbles with it.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 11/09/2016 16:20:15
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Well said. Its a entitlement culture that has crept into Ireland and those of certain age, the I want it cause I'm entitled, no your bloody well not, I grew up in 70s and 80s where if you wanted something you worked you arse off to get it, for very little money, Jesus when I was 14 I was pitching square bales for £5 , and guess what I wanted to see the Munster final then too but we listened on radio and watched sg that night with enda colleran .
I wasn't looking for it for free cause I'm entitled to it in my selfish opinion. If i wanted it live id drive to thurles or wherever. I pay for sky and while it could be improved, the positivity it invokes is a lot better than the , its all about me brigade on rte. I pay for it and if others want it then pay for it too, if you cant afford it? Well sometimes in life things aren't fair. No onehas a god given right to be entitled to anything.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:9454 - 11/09/2016 14:34:46
Fair play to you royal. I'm sure you pitched those square bales in your bare feet too having travelled miles walking to get to work ;)
GAA members are completely ENTITLED to question a decision made by the GAA which costs them extra money on top of all the other money that they as members pump into the GAA every year, through going to matches, membership fees etc.
When an association, that you are a member of, asks you for additional money you should always question the benefits to both yourself and the association. For me the Sky deal was a very poor one.
With the deal the GAA ensured that less people got to see a certain number of matches and they got slightly more money. That's quite a poor deal and if the GAA go with Sky again I would hope that it is a lot more beneficial to the association as a whole.
If Sky only offer slightly more than say TV3 I think the GAA would be stupid to go with Sky again.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13717 - 11/09/2016 16:32:10
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Replying To MesAmis: "Well said. Its a entitlement culture that has crept into Ireland and those of certain age, the I want it cause I'm entitled, no your bloody well not, I grew up in 70s and 80s where if you wanted something you worked you arse off to get it, for very little money, Jesus when I was 14 I was pitching square bales for £5 , and guess what I wanted to see the Munster final then too but we listened on radio and watched sg that night with enda colleran .
I wasn't looking for it for free cause I'm entitled to it in my selfish opinion. If i wanted it live id drive to thurles or wherever. I pay for sky and while it could be improved, the positivity it invokes is a lot better than the , its all about me brigade on rte. I pay for it and if others want it then pay for it too, if you cant afford it? Well sometimes in life things aren't fair. No onehas a god given right to be entitled to anything.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:9454 - 11/09/2016 14:34:46
Fair play to you royal. I'm sure you pitched those square bales in your bare feet too having travelled miles walking to get to work ;)
GAA members are completely ENTITLED to question a decision made by the GAA which costs them extra money on top of all the other money that they as members pump into the GAA every year, through going to matches, membership fees etc.
When an association, that you are a member of, asks you for additional money you should always question the benefits to both yourself and the association. For me the Sky deal was a very poor one.
With the deal the GAA ensured that less people got to see a certain number of matches and they got slightly more money. That's quite a poor deal and if the GAA go with Sky again I would hope that it is a lot more beneficial to the association as a whole.
If Sky only offer slightly more than say TV3 I think the GAA would be stupid to go with Sky again." I agree with MesAmis, royaldunne is changing the topic by labelling everyone as freeloaders with a sense of entitlement. Listen we pay our taxes & don't get anything for nothing & work hard too. Read the Dr Paul Rouse article I spoke about which highlights the problems. But no your afraid to read it just dismiss everyone with your little put downs. All the facts are in that article.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 11/09/2016 17:04:56
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Replying To MesAmis: "Well said. Its a entitlement culture that has crept into Ireland and those of certain age, the I want it cause I'm entitled, no your bloody well not, I grew up in 70s and 80s where if you wanted something you worked you arse off to get it, for very little money, Jesus when I was 14 I was pitching square bales for £5 , and guess what I wanted to see the Munster final then too but we listened on radio and watched sg that night with enda colleran .
I wasn't looking for it for free cause I'm entitled to it in my selfish opinion. If i wanted it live id drive to thurles or wherever. I pay for sky and while it could be improved, the positivity it invokes is a lot better than the , its all about me brigade on rte. I pay for it and if others want it then pay for it too, if you cant afford it? Well sometimes in life things aren't fair. No onehas a god given right to be entitled to anything.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:9454 - 11/09/2016 14:34:46
Fair play to you royal. I'm sure you pitched those square bales in your bare feet too having travelled miles walking to get to work ;)
GAA members are completely ENTITLED to question a decision made by the GAA which costs them extra money on top of all the other money that they as members pump into the GAA every year, through going to matches, membership fees etc.
When an association, that you are a member of, asks you for additional money you should always question the benefits to both yourself and the association. For me the Sky deal was a very poor one.
With the deal the GAA ensured that less people got to see a certain number of matches and they got slightly more money. That's quite a poor deal and if the GAA go with Sky again I would hope that it is a lot more beneficial to the association as a whole.
If Sky only offer slightly more than say TV3 I think the GAA would be stupid to go with Sky again." The membership have questioned the decision and the membership by voting in congress decided to allow the GAA to sell the rights to whoever they choose.
People still don't seem to get it that there was a democratic decision made by congress who are made up of delegates from all across the country and are representing the rank and file GAA membership and congress delegates decided to allow the rights to be sold to whoever the GAA wanted.
Democracy has spoken in this instance and people need to accept it and stop whinging and accept the decision.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 11/09/2016 17:12:02
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Replying To gotmilk: "But the games that are behind pay to view walls have people who get paid in all facets of life. The players, stewards, tea ladies, car park attendants are all getting paid in the swansea chelsea game i am currently watching. This is not the case with the gaa. They are trying to have a foot in both the amateur and professional door.
Look if the gaa decided to go pro I would have no issue with them selling out to sky, but they arent. They are an amateur organisation where everyone is supposed to be equal and people do it of their own free will and for the love of the game. With the sky deal you can only love the game if you can afford to love it. If it went pro I would have zero squabbles with it." And yet all those volunteers have to look at people paying an admission fee into the game.
People volunteer for charities the whole time does that mean that charities can't act like a professional organisation and try and maximize the revenue the generate.
There is no difference between and admission fee into a match and paying to watch it on subscriptions TV, they are 2 cheeks from the one arse.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 11/09/2016 17:13:55
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Replying To gotmilk: "Last time I checked I was buying my licence fee and the BBC had rights to some ulster championship games through a deal with RTE so yes some of my hard earned cash is going to rte and the GAA to watch the native games.
I bet you vote FG RD" So you admit that you dont pay the licence fee to RTÉ, who you want to watch it for free on?
So your complaint isn't really relevant is it? As really you should be complaining that the BBC show more games.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/09/2016 17:26:01
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The membership have questioned the decision and the membership by voting in congress decided to allow the GAA to sell the rights to whoever they choose.
People still don't seem to get it that there was a democratic decision made by congress who are made up of delegates from all across the country and are representing the rank and file GAA membership and congress delegates decided to allow the rights to be sold to whoever the GAA wanted.
Democracy has spoken in this instance and people need to accept it and stop whinging and accept the decision.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts:974 - 11/09/2016 17:12:02 1912783
Just because a decision was made once doesn't mean it has to stay like that forever. What type of logic is that?
By that logic we would never have elections after we had the first one because the decision was made!
As I've already said I've no real problem with some games going behind a pay wall but only if the deal is a good one. This Sky deal was nowhere near good enough to justify lowering the numbers of people able to watch a game by so much.
I do have a problem with some people labelling anyone who questions the Sky deal as a whinger who feels self entitled. That's just rubbish as there are a lot of genuine reasons to not be happy with this TV deal as it hasn't really been a very good deal for the GAA.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13717 - 11/09/2016 17:28:23
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Replying To MesAmis: "Well said. Its a entitlement culture that has crept into Ireland and those of certain age, the I want it cause I'm entitled, no your bloody well not, I grew up in 70s and 80s where if you wanted something you worked you arse off to get it, for very little money, Jesus when I was 14 I was pitching square bales for £5 , and guess what I wanted to see the Munster final then too but we listened on radio and watched sg that night with enda colleran .
I wasn't looking for it for free cause I'm entitled to it in my selfish opinion. If i wanted it live id drive to thurles or wherever. I pay for sky and while it could be improved, the positivity it invokes is a lot better than the , its all about me brigade on rte. I pay for it and if others want it then pay for it too, if you cant afford it? Well sometimes in life things aren't fair. No onehas a god given right to be entitled to anything.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:9454 - 11/09/2016 14:34:46
Fair play to you royal. I'm sure you pitched those square bales in your bare feet too having travelled miles walking to get to work ;)
GAA members are completely ENTITLED to question a decision made by the GAA which costs them extra money on top of all the other money that they as members pump into the GAA every year, through going to matches, membership fees etc.
When an association, that you are a member of, asks you for additional money you should always question the benefits to both yourself and the association. For me the Sky deal was a very poor one.
With the deal the GAA ensured that less people got to see a certain number of matches and they got slightly more money. That's quite a poor deal and if the GAA go with Sky again I would hope that it is a lot more beneficial to the association as a whole.
If Sky only offer slightly more than say TV3 I think the GAA would be stupid to go with Sky again." Were you around in the 90s? What games would a monopoly show if it was just RTÉ? How many times have Louth been shown on rte? Lately zero, same for majority of counties.
Like it or not the gaa build stadia, and facilities, now Dublin may have enough but other counties do not, we all cant have multi million euro deals with a foreign insurance company, we need the gaa to make money to build club houses etc and if that means paying to watch some games in all for it.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/09/2016 17:31:59
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Replying To MesAmis: "The membership have questioned the decision and the membership by voting in congress decided to allow the GAA to sell the rights to whoever they choose.
People still don't seem to get it that there was a democratic decision made by congress who are made up of delegates from all across the country and are representing the rank and file GAA membership and congress delegates decided to allow the rights to be sold to whoever the GAA wanted.
Democracy has spoken in this instance and people need to accept it and stop whinging and accept the decision.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts:974 - 11/09/2016 17:12:02 1912783
Just because a decision was made once doesn't mean it has to stay like that forever. What type of logic is that?
By that logic we would never have elections after we had the first one because the decision was made!
As I've already said I've no real problem with some games going behind a pay wall but only if the deal is a good one. This Sky deal was nowhere near good enough to justify lowering the numbers of people able to watch a game by so much.
I do have a problem with some people labelling anyone who questions the Sky deal as a whinger who feels self entitled. That's just rubbish as there are a lot of genuine reasons to not be happy with this TV deal as it hasn't really been a very good deal for the GAA." Your point really doesn't hold water. Sky paid more than tv3. It was a higher bid, cause its a subscription service makes no difference, the gaa are entitled to accept the highest offer, which was sky, how would anyone feel if their club wasn't getting the new dressing rooms, cause gaa cant afford it, but maybe the extra few quid from sky would have built it?
Its plain economics, the rights go to the highest bidder, if you unhappy with that then write to tv3 and demand they offer more than sky this time, I would be furious if the gaa gave these rights to a lower bidder, in business like in life you should never sell yourself short.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/09/2016 17:42:06
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Were you around in the 90s? What games would a monopoly show if it was just RTÉ? How many times have Louth been shown on rte? Lately zero, same for majority of counties.
Like it or not the gaa build stadia, and facilities, now Dublin may have enough but other counties do not, we all cant have multi million euro deals with a foreign insurance company, we need the gaa to make money to build club houses etc and if that means paying to watch some games in all for it.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:9459 - 11/09/2016 17:31:59
I was around alright. Don't see what relevance it has though.
How many Louth matches have Sky shown so far? Or Leitrim, Carlow etc. Sky are going to show the same games that TV3 would show so don't understand what you're on about to be honest.
We do indeed need the GAA to make money however just because Sky offer slightly more does not mean it is a better deal as it drastically cuts the viewing figures which means a lot less exposure for the game which is what helps grow support levels around the country. That also feeds into additional revenue for the association.
Again I've no problem really with some Championship games going behind a paywall but let's not pretend that the Sky deal has been a fantastic success. A little more revenue but massive drops in viewing figures as well as bad publicity and upsetting a portion of the association.
If they were to go with Sky again then we'll have to see a much better deal on the table where there would be a significant benefit to the association to get over the drawbacks of putting the games out of the reach of a large portion of the association members.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13717 - 11/09/2016 17:55:37
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Replying To royaldunne: " Replying To MesAmis: "The membership have questioned the decision and the membership by voting in congress decided to allow the GAA to sell the rights to whoever they choose.
People still don't seem to get it that there was a democratic decision made by congress who are made up of delegates from all across the country and are representing the rank and file GAA membership and congress delegates decided to allow the rights to be sold to whoever the GAA wanted.
Democracy has spoken in this instance and people need to accept it and stop whinging and accept the decision.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts:974 - 11/09/2016 17:12:02 1912783
Just because a decision was made once doesn't mean it has to stay like that forever. What type of logic is that?
By that logic we would never have elections after we had the first one because the decision was made!
As I've already said I've no real problem with some games going behind a pay wall but only if the deal is a good one. This Sky deal was nowhere near good enough to justify lowering the numbers of people able to watch a game by so much.
I do have a problem with some people labelling anyone who questions the Sky deal as a whinger who feels self entitled. That's just rubbish as there are a lot of genuine reasons to not be happy with this TV deal as it hasn't really been a very good deal for the GAA." Your point really doesn't hold water. Sky paid more than tv3. It was a higher bid, cause its a subscription service makes no difference, the gaa are entitled to accept the highest offer, which was sky, how would anyone feel if their club wasn't getting the new dressing rooms, cause gaa cant afford it, but maybe the extra few quid from sky would have built it? Its plain economics, the rights go to the highest bidder, if you unhappy with that then write to tv3 and demand they offer more than sky this time, I would be furious if the gaa gave these rights to a lower bidder, in business like in life you should never sell yourself short."
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 11/09/2016 18:00:42
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Replying To MesAmis: "Were you around in the 90s? What games would a monopoly show if it was just RTÉ? How many times have Louth been shown on rte? Lately zero, same for majority of counties.
Like it or not the gaa build stadia, and facilities, now Dublin may have enough but other counties do not, we all cant have multi million euro deals with a foreign insurance company, we need the gaa to make money to build club houses etc and if that means paying to watch some games in all for it.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:9459 - 11/09/2016 17:31:59
I was around alright. Don't see what relevance it has though.
How many Louth matches have Sky shown so far? Or Leitrim, Carlow etc. Sky are going to show the same games that TV3 would show so don't understand what you're on about to be honest.
We do indeed need the GAA to make money however just because Sky offer slightly more does not mean it is a better deal as it drastically cuts the viewing figures which means a lot less exposure for the game which is what helps grow support levels around the country. That also feeds into additional revenue for the association.
Again I've no problem really with some Championship games going behind a paywall but let's not pretend that the Sky deal has been a fantastic success. A little more revenue but massive drops in viewing figures as well as bad publicity and upsetting a portion of the association.
If they were to go with Sky again then we'll have to see a much better deal on the table where there would be a significant benefit to the association to get over the drawbacks of putting the games out of the reach of a large portion of the association members." As for some people saying sky is too expensive just to have 3 or 4 months, a lot these people, not people here personally, have no problem spending the same amount of money going out on a saturday night getting hammered with drink which only has a few hour buzz instead of paying a subscription which cost nearly same amount per month which you can see great sporting action throughout each night you come back from work
rebelfan (Cork) - Posts: 70 - 11/09/2016 18:03:30
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Replying To royaldunne: " Replying To MesAmis: "The membership have questioned the decision and the membership by voting in congress decided to allow the GAA to sell the rights to whoever they choose.
People still don't seem to get it that there was a democratic decision made by congress who are made up of delegates from all across the country and are representing the rank and file GAA membership and congress delegates decided to allow the rights to be sold to whoever the GAA wanted.
Democracy has spoken in this instance and people need to accept it and stop whinging and accept the decision.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts:974 - 11/09/2016 17:12:02 1912783
Just because a decision was made once doesn't mean it has to stay like that forever. What type of logic is that?
By that logic we would never have elections after we had the first one because the decision was made!
As I've already said I've no real problem with some games going behind a pay wall but only if the deal is a good one. This Sky deal was nowhere near good enough to justify lowering the numbers of people able to watch a game by so much.
I do have a problem with some people labelling anyone who questions the Sky deal as a whinger who feels self entitled. That's just rubbish as there are a lot of genuine reasons to not be happy with this TV deal as it hasn't really been a very good deal for the GAA." Your point really doesn't hold water. Sky paid more than tv3. It was a higher bid, cause its a subscription service makes no difference, the gaa are entitled to accept the highest offer, which was sky, how would anyone feel if their club wasn't getting the new dressing rooms, cause gaa cant afford it, but maybe the extra few quid from sky would have built it? Its plain economics, the rights go to the highest bidder, if you unhappy with that then write to tv3 and demand they offer more than sky this time, I would be furious if the gaa gave these rights to a lower bidder, in business like in life you should never sell yourself short."
Suppose you own and are renting out a house. It makes sense to rent it to a family even though a group of students may be prepared to pay marginally more. It's a perfectly rational decision to. There's a cost benefit analysis being done. We get less rent but it should also mean less hassle.
With the tv rights you have to think, ok they're paying more but is it worth the reduced exposure of our games.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4233 - 11/09/2016 18:28:47
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Replying To royaldunne: " Replying To MesAmis: "The membership have questioned the decision and the membership by voting in congress decided to allow the GAA to sell the rights to whoever they choose.
People still don't seem to get it that there was a democratic decision made by congress who are made up of delegates from all across the country and are representing the rank and file GAA membership and congress delegates decided to allow the rights to be sold to whoever the GAA wanted.
Democracy has spoken in this instance and people need to accept it and stop whinging and accept the decision.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts:974 - 11/09/2016 17:12:02 1912783
Just because a decision was made once doesn't mean it has to stay like that forever. What type of logic is that?
By that logic we would never have elections after we had the first one because the decision was made!
As I've already said I've no real problem with some games going behind a pay wall but only if the deal is a good one. This Sky deal was nowhere near good enough to justify lowering the numbers of people able to watch a game by so much.
I do have a problem with some people labelling anyone who questions the Sky deal as a whinger who feels self entitled. That's just rubbish as there are a lot of genuine reasons to not be happy with this TV deal as it hasn't really been a very good deal for the GAA." Your point really doesn't hold water. Sky paid more than tv3. It was a higher bid, cause its a subscription service makes no difference, the gaa are entitled to accept the highest offer, which was sky, how would anyone feel if their club wasn't getting the new dressing rooms, cause gaa cant afford it, but maybe the extra few quid from sky would have built it? Its plain economics, the rights go to the highest bidder, if you unhappy with that then write to tv3 and demand they offer more than sky this time, I would be furious if the gaa gave these rights to a lower bidder, in business like in life you should never sell yourself short."
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 11/09/2016 18:32:33
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Replying To rebelfan: " Replying To MesAmis: "Were you around in the 90s? What games would a monopoly show if it was just RTÉ? How many times have Louth been shown on rte? Lately zero, same for majority of counties.
Like it or not the gaa build stadia, and facilities, now Dublin may have enough but other counties do not, we all cant have multi million euro deals with a foreign insurance company, we need the gaa to make money to build club houses etc and if that means paying to watch some games in all for it.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:9459 - 11/09/2016 17:31:59
I was around alright. Don't see what relevance it has though.
How many Louth matches have Sky shown so far? Or Leitrim, Carlow etc. Sky are going to show the same games that TV3 would show so don't understand what you're on about to be honest.
We do indeed need the GAA to make money however just because Sky offer slightly more does not mean it is a better deal as it drastically cuts the viewing figures which means a lot less exposure for the game which is what helps grow support levels around the country. That also feeds into additional revenue for the association.
Again I've no problem really with some Championship games going behind a paywall but let's not pretend that the Sky deal has been a fantastic success. A little more revenue but massive drops in viewing figures as well as bad publicity and upsetting a portion of the association.
If they were to go with Sky again then we'll have to see a much better deal on the table where there would be a significant benefit to the association to get over the drawbacks of putting the games out of the reach of a large portion of the association members." As for some people saying sky is too expensive just to have 3 or 4 months, a lot these people, not people here personally, have no problem spending the same amount of money going out on a saturday night getting hammered with drink which only has a few hour buzz instead of paying a subscription which cost nearly same amount per month which you can see great sporting action throughout each night you come back from work"
http://historyhub.ie/the-impact-of-pay-tv-on-sport
First paragraph sums this up. Pay tv puts live sports beyond the reach of certain often disadvantaged sections of society.
I think it is a valid question that needs to be asked and regularly evaluated if the GAA is the sort of association that wants to do that.
I'm not solely against pay tv for our games if it is deemed as overall best, but that is a difficult, legitimate question and I am really irritated by the derision that the president uses when dealing with it.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4233 - 11/09/2016 18:41:30
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Replying To Whammo86: " Replying To royaldunne: "[quote=MesAmis: "The membership have questioned the decision and the membership by voting in congress decided to allow the GAA to sell the rights to whoever they choose.
People still don't seem to get it that there was a democratic decision made by congress who are made up of delegates from all across the country and are representing the rank and file GAA membership and congress delegates decided to allow the rights to be sold to whoever the GAA wanted.
Democracy has spoken in this instance and people need to accept it and stop whinging and accept the decision.
uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts:974 - 11/09/2016 17:12:02 1912783
Just because a decision was made once doesn't mean it has to stay like that forever. What type of logic is that?
By that logic we would never have elections after we had the first one because the decision was made!
As I've already said I've no real problem with some games going behind a pay wall but only if the deal is a good one. This Sky deal was nowhere near good enough to justify lowering the numbers of people able to watch a game by so much.
I do have a problem with some people labelling anyone who questions the Sky deal as a whinger who feels self entitled. That's just rubbish as there are a lot of genuine reasons to not be happy with this TV deal as it hasn't really been a very good deal for the GAA." Your point really doesn't hold water. Sky paid more than tv3. It was a higher bid, cause its a subscription service makes no difference, the gaa are entitled to accept the highest offer, which was sky, how would anyone feel if their club wasn't getting the new dressing rooms, cause gaa cant afford it, but maybe the extra few quid from sky would have built it? Its plain economics, the rights go to the highest bidder, if you unhappy with that then write to tv3 and demand they offer more than sky this time, I would be furious if the gaa gave these rights to a lower bidder, in business like in life you should never sell yourself short."
Suppose you own and are renting out a house. It makes sense to rent it to a family even though a group of students may be prepared to pay marginally more. It's a perfectly rational decision to. There's a cost benefit analysis being done. We get less rent but it should also mean less hassle.
With the tv rights you have to think, ok they're paying more but is it worth the reduced exposure of our games."]I also think that over exposure is huge problem, attendees are down all over the place, why would I go when I can watch it for free on TV? Balance is something that needs to be found, and i believe pay subscriptions help in this regard.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 11/09/2016 18:54:57
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