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Replying To alano12: "i must admit gotmilk from my own personal experiences in the last few years that a lot of the people who i have seen give out about the sky deal in my area wouldnt go to gaa matches, wouldnt have anything to do with it and love a good whinge.....there is people with valid complaints who cant afford it but there is also an element that is a moaner brigade" Totally, that's my point. One of the most voiceful people I know against this sky deal is a guy who wouldn't go watch Westmeath playing in Cusack park cause the gaa sold out to sky. Now this same wears daily a Liverpool top, jacket or whatever putting his hand on the emblem and talking about US and We. And who goes to anfield twice a year to watch them play (oh and he I on sickness benefits fo a bad back) he pays for all this not only with tax payers money but also by doing a few nixers, he always drops sky sports and bbc sports in summer, and giving out hell that he would have to pay for it for 3 months just to watch gaa before the premiership starts. The unfairness for the poor lad, yeah its shocking the nasty old gaa took away your right to watch games for free that you give nothing to. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/10/2016 23:37:23 1929962 Link
I've gone to more than 10 club games this year across 3 different counties, I had Sky for years and got rid. I could afford it but thought it was terrible value. This deal is not free money for the GAA. The people who will pay for this are part of the association, this is money they will fork out instead of going to games. That's all I want to say. It could be the best thing for the association, but it is not as clear cut as some on here would have you believe. To call anyone a sponger for not wanting to pay something that costs upwards of €200 a year is pretty disrespectful in my opinion. €240 a year (i couldn't get sky sports for less than that as a 9 year customer) on something like 14 exclusive matches is bloody extortionate. It is quite reasonable that people would complain about having to pay it. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4233 - 29/10/2016 09:25:34 1929980 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Totally, that's my point. One of the most voiceful people I know against this sky deal is a guy who wouldn't go watch Westmeath playing in Cusack park cause the gaa sold out to sky. Now this same wears daily a Liverpool top, jacket or whatever putting his hand on the emblem and talking about US and We. And who goes to anfield twice a year to watch them play (oh and he I on sickness benefits fo a bad back) he pays for all this not only with tax payers money but also by doing a few nixers, he always drops sky sports and bbc sports in summer, and giving out hell that he would have to pay for it for 3 months just to watch gaa before the premiership starts. The unfairness for the poor lad, yeah its shocking the nasty old gaa took away your right to watch games for free that you give nothing to." Give it a rest. What about the labourer or father who works in a warehouse, who has 4 kids who is struggling to make ends meet? He can't afford sky so he obviously must not be a hardworking man like yourself. RD that is disgusting. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 29/10/2016 12:59:36 1930007 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "I've gone to more than 10 club games this year across 3 different counties, I had Sky for years and got rid. I could afford it but thought it was terrible value. This deal is not free money for the GAA. The people who will pay for this are part of the association, this is money they will fork out instead of going to games. That's all I want to say. It could be the best thing for the association, but it is not as clear cut as some on here would have you believe. To call anyone a sponger for not wanting to pay something that costs upwards of €200 a year is pretty disrespectful in my opinion. €240 a year (i couldn't get sky sports for less than that as a 9 year customer) on something like 14 exclusive matches is bloody extortionate. It is quite reasonable that people would complain about having to pay it." up to a certain point.....and there is ways to work around it...i do think ultimately people should just be going to the games...if tv3 prefer showing other sports then not much the gaa can do about it...eir sport would be a much weaker option than sky in my view alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 29/10/2016 14:38:20 1930024 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "I've gone to more than 10 club games this year across 3 different counties, I had Sky for years and got rid. I could afford it but thought it was terrible value. This deal is not free money for the GAA. The people who will pay for this are part of the association, this is money they will fork out instead of going to games. That's all I want to say. It could be the best thing for the association, but it is not as clear cut as some on here would have you believe. To call anyone a sponger for not wanting to pay something that costs upwards of €200 a year is pretty disrespectful in my opinion. €240 a year (i couldn't get sky sports for less than that as a 9 year customer) on something like 14 exclusive matches is bloody extortionate. It is quite reasonable that people would complain about having to pay it." 68 pm for full package, perhaps its differs up north. But that's my monthly subscription. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/10/2016 15:38:54 1930038 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "Give it a rest. What about the labourer or father who works in a warehouse, who has 4 kids who is struggling to make ends meet? He can't afford sky so he obviously must not be a hardworking man like yourself. RD that is disgusting." Those people you speak of are of course hard working. And not the layabout spongers I was speaking about. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/10/2016 15:40:17 1930039 Link
Replying To alano12: "up to a certain point.....and there is ways to work around it...i do think ultimately people should just be going to the games...if tv3 prefer showing other sports then not much the gaa can do about it...eir sport would be a much weaker option than sky in my view" Yeah totally agree, eir is a stand alone channel, tv3 would rather give their money to irfu, (which is their right) , so huge thanks to sky for actually giving gaa games a new channel and funds. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/10/2016 15:43:40 1930041 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "Give it a rest. What about the labourer or father who works in a warehouse, who has 4 kids who is struggling to make ends meet? He can't afford sky so he obviously must not be a hardworking man like yourself. RD that is disgusting." you ignore the massive amounts of people who have sky for the premier league, rugby etc...most irish people follow the premier league pretty actively week in week out i wonder how they manage to do that if every one of them is 'struggling' alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 29/10/2016 15:52:42 1930043 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "I've gone to more than 10 club games this year across 3 different counties, I had Sky for years and got rid. I could afford it but thought it was terrible value. This deal is not free money for the GAA. The people who will pay for this are part of the association, this is money they will fork out instead of going to games. That's all I want to say. It could be the best thing for the association, but it is not as clear cut as some on here would have you believe. To call anyone a sponger for not wanting to pay something that costs upwards of €200 a year is pretty disrespectful in my opinion. €240 a year (i couldn't get sky sports for less than that as a 9 year customer) on something like 14 exclusive matches is bloody extortionate. It is quite reasonable that people would complain about having to pay it." sky as a product is certainly weaker than it used to be due to bt buying up rights and making sky overpay to hold on to the football..look at how diminished their spanish league coverage has been due to the amount spent on holding on to the premier league alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 29/10/2016 15:54:26 1930045 Link
I have stated on record that I don't agree with any subscription channels getting rights to GAA matches but I have to admit I have never watched a GAA match on Sky. After a few weeks trying to forget the All Ireland Final defer I decided to watch the game online, I watched it on you tube and it was Sky that was commentating, the amount of times the commentators went to the sideline for Sennan Connell to say something that we needed to know, all he was doing was bladdering on about something the Dublin sideline was doing. If that's the kind of muck they are at in every game i'd rather watch paint dry, the commentary was also poor riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 29/10/2016 19:52:06 1930080 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Those people you speak of are of course hard working. And not the layabout spongers I was speaking about." Those lay about spongers are in the very small minority. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 29/10/2016 22:25:24 1930109 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "Those lay about spongers are in the very small minority." Unfortunately they are very much a majority of those complaining, I cant go out and protest as I am working, its always the squeezed middle who ends up paying for the layabouts. I really don't know what Fermanagh is like but trust me every other county has plenty of layabout who want everything for nothing, taking away from those in genuine crisis, its a disgrace royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 30/10/2016 11:12:18 1930144 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Unfortunately they are very much a majority of those complaining, I cant go out and protest as I am working, its always the squeezed middle who ends up paying for the layabouts. I really don't know what Fermanagh is like but trust me every other county has plenty of layabout who want everything for nothing, taking away from those in genuine crisis, its a disgrace" I am assuming you read the sun or daily mail or something else along those lines? What's really squeezing the middle class is tax breaks for the rich. Those who can pay don't pay. You make very sweeping generalisations in your posts. Those on benefits are not living the high life. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 30/10/2016 12:13:35 1930154 Link
No one size fits all. The "I'm all right, Jack" brigade seldom take this into account. Over the past few years, I've probably attended more league than championship matches. I've also attended a lot of club matches. A lot of people can't afford Sky's exorbitant pricing for it's sports channels. The GAA not only sold out it's supporters but it lied about the reason it did it. I wonder why? Yes, I've been following the fortunes of Chelsea since the late 1950s, from the time when keeping in touch with them meant reading the results in the Examiner on Monday morning. I certainly wouldn't subscribe to Sky sports to watch their matches. In any case I find GAA matches much more exciting. Midleton (Cork) - Posts: 643 - 30/10/2016 12:32:10 1930160 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "I am assuming you read the sun or daily mail or something else along those lines? What's really squeezing the middle class is tax breaks for the rich. Those who can pay don't pay. You make very sweeping generalisations in your posts. Those on benefits are not living the high life." a lot of them are on benefits and doing nothing..you show them far more sympathy then they are worth alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 30/10/2016 13:38:58 1930169 Link
Replying To alano12: "a lot of them are on benefits and doing nothing..you show them far more sympathy then they are worth" How many people do you know living on benefits? gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 30/10/2016 15:34:17 1930181 Link
Replying To alano12: "a lot of them are on benefits and doing nothing..you show them far more sympathy then they are worth" Surely if it was this gravy train you and rd think it is everyone would be doing it. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 30/10/2016 15:34:48 1930182 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "How many people do you know living on benefits?" quite a large number...huge number of foreigners in my area alone who do not work and live on benefits..and are not seeking unemployment either alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 30/10/2016 16:34:12 1930194 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "Surely if it was this gravy train you and rd think it is everyone would be doing it." not a gravy train but not exactly serious hardship either alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 30/10/2016 16:35:38 1930195 Link
Replying To alano12: "quite a large number...huge number of foreigners in my area alone who do not work and live on benefits..and are not seeking unemployment either" employment..you may have the odd one doing things off the books jobs like painting etc alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 30/10/2016 16:50:22 1930200 Link