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I think Roscommon are being a little harshly assessed on this year's performance. I would have said from the start of the season that in priority order it would be 1. Retain Division 1 status 2. Win Connaught They lost Connaught on a replay, badly beaten. However, after that, if they had one win in the qualifiers and stepped out of the championship gracefully, and assessment of their year would have been much more positive. But, they were caught in a 6 day turnaround. 21 Teams have had to deal with that 6 day turnaround, 18 have lost. So I think that was just bad luck more than anything else, had they lost by a point in Salthill, their season would most likely have looked a lot more positive. BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 206 - 07/09/2016 11:25:32 1911186 Link
Replying To endgame: "This is a serious thread about whether the joint managers of the football team I support namely Roscommon are going to stay or to leave their roles.You come on from Wexford making a smart comment about Kevin McStay's television work and you wonder now why you get a riposte back about the failed Wexford hurling Manager Liam Dunne.Good luck to you and goodbye." 2 questions for you ; 1- where does it say it's a "serious" thread? Why are attempts at humorous comments not allowed? 2- why should Wexfords lack of a management team for next year prevent anyone from Wexford viewing or commenting on a thread on Roscommons management predicament? By that logic, you shouldn't be allowed comment on Dublin, Kerry or Tyrone as they have a manager in place for next year? extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 07/09/2016 12:16:19 1911213 Link
Quote from O'Donnell ; "Recently, a concerted effort has been made (outside of management and players) to undermine and disparage us and it is especially disappointing and damaging that those involved purport to be concerned about the promotion of GAA within the county. " Who is he referring to here, who was trying to force him out? Was it some of the clubs? extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 07/09/2016 12:48:37 1911236 Link
Replying To BlastCalyle: "I think Roscommon are being a little harshly assessed on this year's performance. I would have said from the start of the season that in priority order it would be 1. Retain Division 1 status 2. Win Connaught They lost Connaught on a replay, badly beaten. However, after that, if they had one win in the qualifiers and stepped out of the championship gracefully, and assessment of their year would have been much more positive. But, they were caught in a 6 day turnaround. 21 Teams have had to deal with that 6 day turnaround, 18 have lost. So I think that was just bad luck more than anything else, had they lost by a point in Salthill, their season would most likely have looked a lot more positive." In fairness we were crippled with injuries all year. Missing more then half our best team for the Connacht final replay ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 07/09/2016 13:30:46 1911271 Link
I'd like to see Roscommon do well and hope they'll have a better championship next year, Who are these great players Roscommon were missing for the Connacht final? TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 07/09/2016 13:39:22 1911282 Link
Replying To extranjero: "2 questions for you ; 1- where does it say it's a "serious" thread? Why are attempts at humorous comments not allowed? 2- why should Wexfords lack of a management team for next year prevent anyone from Wexford viewing or commenting on a thread on Roscommons management predicament? By that logic, you shouldn't be allowed comment on Dublin, Kerry or Tyrone as they have a manager in place for next year?" Humour always both allowed and appreciated.Your comment wasn't humurous.Anything constructive coming from a poster from another county always appreciated.Your comment wasn't constructive.It was just a smart comment about McStay and that's why I responded.By the way I wish Wexford Gaa well and would love to see the Model county going well.Don't think Liam Dunne is the man for ye.As for Ros, O'Donnell is gone which is a pity because he loves Roscommon football.I don't know what comes next or whether Kevin McStay will be ratified as the sole Manager for 2017. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2171 - 07/09/2016 13:52:02 1911293 Link
Replying To TheWestIsAwake: "I'd like to see Roscommon do well and hope they'll have a better championship next year, Who are these great players Roscommon were missing for the Connacht final?" Neil Collins, Ciaran Cafferky, Ian Kilbride, Ronan Stack, David Kennan, Diarmuid Murtagh were all injured. Kevin Higgins, Cathal Shine, Cian Connolly, Ultan Harney were just coming back after injury. Ronan and Conor Daly were unavailable but that different! For any team to be without that many players would be difficult, and especially for one like Roscommon who haven't a massive pool to pick from. Nobody is saying they are All Stars but they are all very important to our team. Douglas_Hyde (Roscommon) - Posts: 90 - 07/09/2016 14:09:35 1911303 Link
Replying To endgame: "Humour always both allowed and appreciated.Your comment wasn't humurous.Anything constructive coming from a poster from another county always appreciated.Your comment wasn't constructive.It was just a smart comment about McStay and that's why I responded.By the way I wish Wexford Gaa well and would love to see the Model county going well.Don't think Liam Dunne is the man for ye.As for Ros, O'Donnell is gone which is a pity because he loves Roscommon football.I don't know what comes next or whether Kevin McStay will be ratified as the sole Manager for 2017." ....one problem endgame: it wasn't my comment initially, different poster altogether! :D Anyway, I'd like to echo your sentiments about Wexford towards Roscommon aswell, I'd have a lot of time for the Rossies, worked with several lads from the county over the years and they were all football mad, knowledgeable and passionate about the game (and a couple on hurling aswell!) I don't know who you'll have over the team next year, but I hope they keep the trajectory in the right direction, and fighting for league and provincial honours, and with a bit of luck maybe even an all-ireland! And just to go back to my previous question, could anyone in the county give us a bit of insight into who exactly McDonnell felt was forcing him out? extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 07/09/2016 14:50:08 1911337 Link
Replying To Douglas_Hyde: "Neil Collins, Ciaran Cafferky, Ian Kilbride, Ronan Stack, David Kennan, Diarmuid Murtagh were all injured. Kevin Higgins, Cathal Shine, Cian Connolly, Ultan Harney were just coming back after injury. Ronan and Conor Daly were unavailable but that different! For any team to be without that many players would be difficult, and especially for one like Roscommon who haven't a massive pool to pick from. Nobody is saying they are All Stars but they are all very important to our team." Their was no injured players that would have made such a differance as to actually see us win a meaningful championship game for the first time in a well over a decade. Most wouldnt have started anyway and were around for similar championship defeats like Clare gave us. Not the first time Management have been scapegoated with this group of players. The footballers are not good enough when it comes to championship football despite their best efforts. Its as simple as that. salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 07/09/2016 16:58:32 1911416 Link
Think it's only fair to acknowledge O'Donnell's contribution to Roscommon football and wish him well. However, there is little doubt that the Roscommon team was a total shambles last year and the blame for this cannot be placed solely on absent players. The insistence on playing negative, defensive football when the team (and obviously the coaches) didn't have the faintest idea how to set up an effective defensive structure was criminal. Little wonder that players struggled and lost confidence in their ability. I don't know who called the shots on the management team but there really seemed to be total paralysis on the line with nobody showing any ability to react to what was happening on the field. I don't know if McStay has the potential to rekindle the enthusiasm and confidence of whatever team is available to represent Roscommon this year. The emphasis needs to be on team and teamwork and to stop undermining the players who are available, or make themselves available, by continually harping on about those who are absent or have absentee themselves. neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 07/09/2016 17:36:56 1911436 Link
its sad to see FOD to leave roscommon of course after he brought ros minors in 2006 an all ireland title and connacht title with the seniors 2010. But my own view is the joint management would have never worked as we seen it with our neighbours Mayo who got rid of there management. I do wish well and every success to fergal and his selectors. It was important to keep division 1 status if we did not we be going backwards. I know it was very disappointing championship this year but missing alot of our key players this year with injuries and the 2 Dalys gone travelling. Even tough FOD knows a few of the players from the 2010 squad. I think Kevin Mcstay knows more of recent sucesss since his taste of success with St brigids. There is alot of communication and good team morale with Kevin Mcstay and Liam Mchale but do I see us winning connacht title with them yes and no. David power might bring in more energy and more team morale and use the young players that we have as oncoming talent from many titles of u21. We have try the best to get out of this team remaining devision 1 status and winning connacht title. But we have to select the right management and backroom team to do this. niamhy94 (Roscommon) - Posts: 31 - 07/09/2016 18:01:30 1911453 Link
Whos david power? moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1080 - 07/09/2016 20:37:57 1911516 Link
Replying To moros: "Whos david power?" Sounds like some kind of magician . .... in sayong that he'd probably need to b the way our crowd behave ! rossy15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 619 - 07/09/2016 20:46:33 1911519 Link
Oh one if those! moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1080 - 07/09/2016 20:50:03 1911520 Link
the former wexford manager and the manager who brought tipp minors to an all ireland final niamhy94 (Roscommon) - Posts: 31 - 07/09/2016 21:09:43 1911527 Link
And so what I add? moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1080 - 07/09/2016 22:50:26 1911570 Link
What's going on in Roscommon? It isn't a bloody motorway! Takes drivers 50 mins to travel 30 miles riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 07/09/2016 23:01:31 1911576 Link
Replying To salvador: "Their was no injured players that would have made such a differance as to actually see us win a meaningful championship game for the first time in a well over a decade. Most wouldnt have started anyway and were around for similar championship defeats like Clare gave us. Not the first time Management have been scapegoated with this group of players. The footballers are not good enough when it comes to championship football despite their best efforts. Its as simple as that." What a load of rubbish eight of them would have started. Most of them out best players ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 08/09/2016 09:16:20 1911621 Link
Replying To ROS1: "What a load of rubbish eight of them would have started. Most of them out best players" Ros1 only Collins, Stack and Cafferky were injured and only Collins out of those three would have started if fit. All other players had at least three weeks full training done longballin (Roscommon) - Posts: 91 - 08/09/2016 09:35:55 1911628 Link
We had everyone available they were just not selected for one reason or another. And that's why O'Donnell had to go. Too loyal to his friends who simply were not county standard longballin (Roscommon) - Posts: 91 - 08/09/2016 09:52:34 1911639 Link