mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 06/09/2016 09:18:37    1910530

lads i dont mean to be a kill joy or anything but i fail to see how it adds to the occasion having lads in tears on the pitch (or worse 17/18 year olds) with the opposition team song blaring out, to me its akin to rubbing the defeat in, i know the winning team has the right to celebrate but the losing team has the right to a bit of respect too, When Offaly won 81 or Clare won 95 - there was no music played and i think both sets of players and fans didnt need any music to embellish their enjoyment or memories from the day, The time to have a county song after an all ireland is after the captains speech and give somebody a mike and let them sing it, by that time the opposition has had a few minutes to let in sink in and can head to the dressing room.

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 06/09/2016 10:03:41    1910550

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7902 - 06/09/2016 11:22:22    1910592

Don't see an issue with it myself. I get what you are saying but you could also say that having to watch the opposition lift the trophy hurts as much as a song. To be honest I would think the hurt of losing couldn't be made any worse be it by playing the oppositions tune, having presentations in front of the losers etc. Well, unless it becomes mandatory that the losing team have to take a swift kick to the goolies after the final whistle, that would probably add to the hurt though would also add to the entertainment value for the neutral.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 06/09/2016 12:00:48    1910618

Should be "Lady of Knock" with Dana they belt out as it would be a miracle....... lol ;-)

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 06/09/2016 12:05:27    1910619

I was at the All Ireland finals yesterday while the matches were absolutely brilliant. There was one part of the occasion that i found to be in poor taste. At the end of both games the song of the winning county was blared over the tannoy (in both cases yesterday slievanamon). I have noticed this phenomenon in recent years at other all ireland series games, and i do not think it is right or fair to subject losing players to this.
Players are on the pitch in tears after being beaten having defeat rubbed in to them by whats played over the tannoy. Young lads of 17 and 18 years old having been beaten in the biggest game of their lives having the defeat rubbed in by playing slievenamon after the game (albeit not deliberately on anybodys part) It does not matter that it was my own beloved Limerick that were affected yesterday, if we had won and the same thing done to the Tipperary players it would be equally horrible. The GAA is a great organisation and does the vast majority of thing right ,but lets get rid of this music at the end of games. It adds nothing to the occasion.
One other small thing the minor lap of honour overlapped with the jubilee team presentation and they both took from each other - if possible and if time allows it might be no harm to delay the presentation by 5 - 10 minutes. Otherwise 2 great matches great day -well done tipp - just wonder we i ever see ourselves win it
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:618 - 05/09/2016 14:51:21 I don't see the playing of this music as bad taste at all. This doesn't rub in the defeat to the losing players at all. There isn't an alternative that will make the defeat any better for those who lose and the playing of this music wont affect any player, on either winning or losing side.

in 2014 after being beaten in an epic semi final against kilkenny what was played over the tannoy - that well known gaa ballad of "cool for cats" by squeeze - most of our lads were lying on the ground in tears and to have that played over they tannoy was horrible
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:618 - 05/09/2016 16:40:47 So what if you don't like the song? It will make not one bit of difference to how a player feels after a big loss.
theweanling (Cavan) -winning an all ireland is a great day and dont need music to embellish it - i just think its something the losing players could do without
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:618 - 05/09/2016 17:33:52 It does need something and playing a county's song adds the occasion and players on losing side wont care one iota about any song played over PA when they lose a big game like that

lads i dont mean to be a kill joy or anything but i fail to see how it adds to the occasion having lads in tears on the pitch (or worse 17/18 year olds) with the opposition team song blaring out, to me its akin to rubbing the defeat in, i know the winning team has the right to celebrate but the losing team has the right to a bit of respect too, When Offaly won 81 or Clare won 95 - there was no music played and i think both sets of players and fans didnt need any music to embellish their enjoyment or memories from the day, The time to have a county song after an all ireland is after the captains speech and give somebody a mike and let them sing it, by that time the opposition has had a few minutes to let in sink in and can head to the dressing room.
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:618 - 06/09/2016 10:03:41The winning captain receiving the trophy and the knowledge you have lost despite giving your all will hurt players 10 million times more than any stupid song played over a PA system. In no way is it rubbing the defeat in.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 06/09/2016 13:23:12    1910683

To be honest, if you ask anyone who suffers defeat in a final about the music played after the game I'd imagine they'll hardly even know any was played.

Music is irrelevent, shaking the hands of the players who've just beating you will haunt them long after whatever song(s) are played.

GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 06/09/2016 13:24:22    1910685

offtheboat (USA) - Posts: 57 - 06/09/2016 13:47:58    1910702

There isn't an alternative that will make the defeat any better for those who lose and the playing of this music wont affect any player, on either winning or losing side.

The winning captain receiving the trophy and the knowledge you have lost despite giving your all will hurt players 10 million times more than any stupid song played over a PA system. In no way is it rubbing the defeat in.
ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts:11822 - 06/09/2016 13:23:12   191

If is doesnt make the winning players feel better or if the song is stupid - then why play it -its needless

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 06/09/2016 14:02:11    1910713

theweanling (Cavan) -winning an all ireland is a great day and dont need music to embellish it
Ormond- It does need something and playing a county's song adds the occasion and players on losing side wont care one iota about any song played over PA when they lose a big game like that

So your telling me that when clare won in 1995 or 1997 that the occasion "needed something" or wasnt as good because they didnt play "lovely rose of clare over the tannoy" - i dont think so

Please out of respect for the players get rid of this - at the end of the minor game the tipp fans around me rose to cheer their team and applaud them - they got drowned out by slievenamon being boomed over the tannoys - it drowned out the celebrations at the end too

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 06/09/2016 14:05:52    1910717

I think the most apt song choice was after the Kerry v Mayo replay in Limerick in 2014. They started blaring out 'The Rocky Road to Dublin'. About the song of the winning county being played, it adds to the day when your county wins. Even the fact 'Molly Malone' was played out after Dublin beat Kerry didn't add to my disappointment of Kerry losing the game. If hearing a song about the winning county after losing to them is too much to take, God save us all. I would be annoyed if the winning song was offensive to the losing county, otherwise leave it. If this is the case do we boot out Dublin fans singing Molly Malone as not to offend fans of the other team?

CletusVanDamme (Kerry) - Posts: 63 - 06/09/2016 14:08:17    1910720

t having to watch the opposition lift the trophy hurts as much as a song.-- Offside_Rule (Antrim) -
my friend at least the players have the option of not watching the presentation as do opposing fans plus at leasts its a few mins after the game - not straight away --- - it grates me so it does

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 06/09/2016 14:09:44    1910721

ormondbannerman in 2014 after being beaten in an epic semi final against kilkenny what was played over the tannoy - that well known gaa ballad of "cool for cats" by squeeze - most of our lads were lying on the ground in tears and to have that played over they tannoy was horrible
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:618 - 05/09/2016 16:40:47 So what if you don't like the song? It will make not one bit of difference to how a player feels after a big loss.

personally i dont mind the song cool for cats - but i did think it was disgraceful watching our players in bits, in tears lying on the ground with a pop song being blared over the tannoys , there is no need for it and i found it sickening- its a match not a pop concert , kilkenny fans around us were equally appalled -they couldnt even cheer their team off the pitch coz they were drowned out

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 06/09/2016 14:13:52    1910727

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 06/09/2016 14:36:28    1910737

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 06/09/2016 14:48:33    1910748

If this is the case do we boot out Dublin fans singing Molly Malone as not to offend fans of the other team?
CletusVanDamme (Kerry) - Posts:19 - 06/09/2016 14:08:17 1910720

i have no problem with fans singing, love it to be truthful, sadly with music blaring over the tannoys they are drowned out after the game, i just think the losing players deserve better thats all ,

Id be delighted if somebody can tell me how it adds to the occasion , coz i fail to see (sorry hear!) how it does j

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 06/09/2016 15:18:14    1910765

I think playing music after the final is annoying and another stupid add on- playing music through speakers at high volume- just end up as intolerable noise / vibration which should have no place in CP
browncows (Meath) - Posts:1134 - 06/09/2016 14:36:28 1

agreed

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 06/09/2016 15:21:30    1910767

therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 06/09/2016 20:24:15    1910948

So when Limerick finally get to lift Liam you don't want to hear Limerick your a lady being played ?
therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts:1114 - 06/09/2016 20:24:15 19

If we ever win Liam for two reasons i would not want it played over the tannoy the second the final whistle has blown,
1 out of respect for the opposition and
2 Let the fans and players celebrate i.e. jump around , go mad , or cry (my most likely reaction) - but allow us to celebrate without tannoyed music to drown us out -- keep the singing until after the presentation (i mean a guy singing and not canned music) by which stage the opposition has had a chance to get to dressing room and opposition fans can leave the stadium if they wish

I do like the way you phrase it though "when limerick finally get to lift Liam" , sadly i noy saw if we ever lift Liam , coz i fear even though im not even 40 that i may never see that day, and if that day does ever happen i can assure you we wont need tannoyed music to make the day any better

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 06/09/2016 22:52:31    1911012

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 07/09/2016 00:13:54    1911036