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No doubting he's a serious talent but I'd like to think a high % of intercounty footballers could do what he does with the ball. He was spare against Donegal due to their tactics and got on serious ball but it nearly always went lateral or backwards. If a Ryan McHugh/Peter Harte gets that amount of ball they make penetrating runs, draw defenders and kick long range scores. I just don't think he capable of that against the bigger teams.
DJ78 (Derry) - Posts: 51 - 01/09/2016 16:18:07 1909212 Link 0 |
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That wasn't in particular order. Just three or four players from each team who have a realistic chance of winning it
MayoMonkey (Mayo) - Posts: 14 - 01/09/2016 20:46:32 1909298 Link 0 |
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That in goalkeeping terms is a bad game.He could have lost them the game easily. I'm not anti Cluxton or anti Dublin or anything but he just had a rare blip and as you see the odds of him getting an all star after that game have moved to 6/1 behind Evan Comerford and Clarke for Mayo
GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 03/09/2016 11:04:40 1909619 Link 0 |
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He'd need a clean sheet in the final and a peno save to have any chance. But I doubt he gives two f**ks! realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 03/09/2016 23:19:38 1909785 Link 0 |
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If Kevin McManamon has a very good final, he will surely receive the award he so richly deserves, and will become one of the greats. KerryKillers (Dublin) - Posts: 711 - 15/09/2016 03:29:43 1914496 Link 0 |
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Kevin Mc for me if Dublin win. avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 15/09/2016 10:46:35 1914535 Link 0 |
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By his extemely high standards those two blips were poor. However he hit the target 18 times from 21 in the game. That's pretty damn good (90% ish) and had he not done that it could easily be argued that Dublin would not have made the final. He has become so good at it that analysts and fans now completely overlook this art and take it for granted so he gets no brownie points for it anymore. The man has transformed the game in terms of ball distribution. Decent article here on him... http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0914/816574-cluxton-evolution/ Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 15/09/2016 10:50:43 1914538 Link 0 |
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I think Diarmuid Connolly get it myself unless he gets red in the final! ros747 (Roscommon) - Posts: 160 - 15/09/2016 11:15:15 1914547 Link 0 |
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Have to agree with a lot of that.
Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 15/09/2016 11:20:12 1914549 Link 0 |
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Kevin mc manamon will surely get poty whatever the outcome sunday..it hasn't been a year for individual performances.Diarmuid connoly has had a very good year but you would expect that from him.he is the best footballer in Ireland on his day.colm boyle that one or two good game's but nowhere near poty dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1061 - 15/09/2016 11:59:09 1914565 Link 0 |
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If Dublin win then it should be Kevin Mc if he has a decent final. If Mayo win, I'd go for Andy Moran, maybe Aidan O'Shea if he has a big final. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 15/09/2016 12:01:28 1914567 Link 0 |
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Read the majority of comments on that article. I think they go a little over-board but they do look past what is lazy journalism. Almost all teams kicked short kick-outs at times - I played in a club team at underage who were small for their age group and relied entirely on midfielders both running in one direction to free up space for a wing forward to come and collect the kickout in open space. Any that's years before anyone had even heard of Cluxton. County teams were reluctant to do this all the time as it was seen as admitting that your midfield wasn't capable of winning their own ball. Can you imagine Dublin admitting this with Ciaran Whelan in the middle of the field?? But once they got cleaned out by Darragh O'Se and co in 2009, they were left with little choice. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5018 - 15/09/2016 12:17:51 1914576 Link 0 |
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Kevin Mc Manamon by a mile. He is not the usual type player all these managers rave about for the modern game like Ciaran Kilkenny with over a hundred hand passes per game running around like it was an Olympics. No thankfully Kevin Mc Manamon is different & one of the few remaining players I would watch, very skilful with both feet, strong & is a team player. Yet if the chance is on he will go for it whereas 90% of inter county forwards will turn back & recycle. Thank God that there are a few Kevin Mc Manamons around & if there is any justice left in the Gaa he should be player of the year. He will get it ahead of Connolly who very nearly cost his team this year through his indiscipline. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 15/09/2016 12:47:20 1914591 Link 0 |
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Have to agree with a lot of that."]Can't have Kilkenny because he's too lethargic and safe on the ball Guess I just felt the word "lethargic" (sluggish / lacklustre / lazy / listless / dull - according to the good people at Roget's) didn't fit the bill. He was spare against Donegal due to their tactics and got on serious ball but it nearly always went lateral or backwards. "Nearly always"? Are you just thinking of the last period when Donegal had superior numbers on the field and Kilkenny was trying to take the sting out of their momentum or actually "nearly always" - i.e. a very high percentage of all the possession he got in that game? Do you honestly think he'd be within a country mile of the Dublin team if that was his game? If a Ryan McHugh/Peter Harte gets that amount of ball they make penetrating runs, draw defenders and kick long range scores. McHugh and Harte are wing backs, Kilkenny is a wing forward (albeit he did fill that unfamiliar role when required by the team). McHugh and Harte play in very different set ups to Dublin. McHugh and Harte's remit is to break from deep and run, Kilkenny's is to forage and provide the link. You're not comparing like with like at all. Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 15/09/2016 13:34:24 1914610 Link 0 |
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Ciaran Kilkenny imo player of the year pulls a lot of strings for Dublin and can take a score as well redbomb (Tyrone) - Posts: 167 - 15/09/2016 14:21:27 1914620 Link 0 |
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Surprised people think Connolly is in the running. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4241 - 15/09/2016 14:22:08 1914621 Link 0 |
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Dublin only started using this tactic when blanket defences became the norm and we went down to some heavy defeats because of it. There was no such thing as mass defending before Kernan introduced it at Armagh. Cluxton has turned a 30 yard clip onto a six pence into an art form. He is incredibly accurate with his left foot. I don't any keeper in the game with this capability.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 15/09/2016 15:28:38 1914670 Link 0 |
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I'd agree with that. He's not getting enough of the ball in hand but he is a marked man anyway, usually with two defenders shadowing him. Flynner has also been disappointing. Again not on the ball enough for my liking. Hence why Kilkenny has seen a lot of action. He has seamlessly moved into that playmaker role vacated by Alan B.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 15/09/2016 15:33:04 1914674 Link 0 |
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Would love to see Kevin Mac get it. TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 15/09/2016 16:11:51 1914705 Link 0 |
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For me, it rests between Lee Keegan, Peter Harte, Ryan McHugh and Dublin's McMannamon. Harte an McHugh will probably lose out because their teams did not reach the final (it is more of a team award than an individual award), so it will probably come down to which of the other two has most impact in the final. McMannamon''s role is more straight forward, to attack with power and speed, whereas Keegan may have to play a containment role on some Dublin forward and also drive his team fordward. Either would be an excellent recipient of the award. neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 15/09/2016 16:56:44 1914728 Link 0 |