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Dublin v Mayo - All Ireland Football Final 2016

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Mayo need to turn it into an awful game of football

Use the same tactics as 2012

Disrupt Dublin momentum and lay down in various parts of the pitch injured with one Physio running up, down, and side ways attending each player

The way Mayo setup against Dublin in Castlebar and the way they setup a number of times in the championship would suggest a far more defensive system to be deployed IMO

Even Kerry had to do the same on Sunday, and Kerry have better forwards to get scores compared to Mayo, the way Tipp opened up Mayo when they played more open at the back, that will have been looked at, and there is no way in hell that Rochford will setup like that again against Dublin

They'll setup very similar to Kerry, plenty of men back, sweeper system and hit long ball"
I think the Mayo physio covered more ground than any of the Mayo players that day :)

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 30/08/2016 14:46:42    1908139

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Replying To Belclare1:  "Replying To Belclare1: "If Dublin play at 60% they should win.. The two best teams in the country played yesterday.. Mayo are too reliant on Andy Moran and frees from Cillian O Connor.. Diarmiud o Connor has had one or two moents in the championship againnst lowere division teams.. As for the rest Gibbons, Regan etc not anywhere near the standard of the Dubs..If Dublin want to they could win by 10 plus.."
Well done bud, the only thing worse than having a pop at your neighbours is showing that you know nothing about the topic being discussed. Jason Gibbons? Have you been asleep for the summer?

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts:4423 - 29/08/2016 21:20:56 1907831

I apologise, of course i meant Doherty.. although Gibbons has still had a better season than Doherty! and he only lasted 20 mins against Galway.. I was awake in Castlebar when Galway bet ye.. and Galway are no great shakes.. I like everyone else am entitled to my opinion.."
Of course you meant Doherty, of course you did.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8095 - 30/08/2016 15:28:18    1908160

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Sorry I forgot to also mention persistent yet completely unpunished tactical fouling for the entire game

It was highlighted on the Sunday game, several plays replayed to highlight the tactical fouling that went completely unpunished.

It was picked up in the media

All Ireland Final day time

Bang.. Mayo's first tactical foul that previously they could go about doing all day against Dublin = yellow card

Advantage Donegal. Fair play to Joe Brolly..."
So when Mayo a team branded as too soft start bringing a dark side to their game and score 19 points in the process they should feel bad? Get a grip man, pathetic stuff. The Mayo supporters on here who whinged when Kerry got away with murder in Limerick were scoffed at so please don't bang on about 2012. And as for The Sunday Game and Joe Brolly, oh why of course they are the gatekeepers of our sport. The same programme that singled out Sean Cavanagh as a disgrace to the game and not a man for making a tackle that made sure his team went through to the next round, that Sunday Game? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8095 - 30/08/2016 15:34:12    1908165

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Same tactics as 2012? I love the way that the last few minutes of time wasting and fouling have overshadowed the rest of the game. They scored 19 points so the tactics were hardly that awful."
He also missed the part where we were ten points up after 50 minutes. In fairness, our Jim isn't a details man ;)

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 30/08/2016 15:41:42    1908174

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The blatant truth seems lost on some Mayo posters

Have you forgotten about Joe Brolly highlighting all these incidents on the Sunday game or something?

Showed several examples of McQuillan time and time again letting tactical fouling to be used without any sort of punishment, Deegan put that right in the first 5 minutes of the proceeding game.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20682 - 30/08/2016 16:00:09    1908191

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Replying To Belclare1:  "If Dublin play at 60% they should win.. The two best teams in the country played yesterday.. Mayo are too reliant on Andy Moran and frees from Cillian O Connor.. Diarmiud o Connor has had one or two moents in the championship againnst lowere division teams.. As for the rest Gibbons, Regan etc not anywhere near the standard of the Dubs..If Dublin want to they could win by 10 plus.."
I hope the Dubs are only at 60%. I dont understand your comment.. they could win by 10 if they want to.. Of course they will want to!
The reality is that Mayo need a lot to go right for them but its not out of the question that they will win.

unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1223 - 30/08/2016 16:02:05    1908192

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Replying To jimbodub:  "The blatant truth seems lost on some Mayo posters

Have you forgotten about Joe Brolly highlighting all these incidents on the Sunday game or something?

Showed several examples of McQuillan time and time again letting tactical fouling to be used without any sort of punishment, Deegan put that right in the first 5 minutes of the proceeding game."
Dublin are far from immune from a bit o thay auld cinicism.

http://www.the42.ie/dublin-donegal-3-2918618-Aug2016/

Scroll down to Dublin dabble in the dark arts

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4329 - 30/08/2016 16:47:06    1908220

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Replying To jimbodub:  "The blatant truth seems lost on some Mayo posters

Have you forgotten about Joe Brolly highlighting all these incidents on the Sunday game or something?

Showed several examples of McQuillan time and time again letting tactical fouling to be used without any sort of punishment, Deegan put that right in the first 5 minutes of the proceeding game."
Firstly Jim using Joe Brolly as a reference point is not a great start. Secondly Mayo did what they had to do that day and got a deserving win. They were hardly creeling Dublin for the 70 minutes so get a grip. You seem to have forgotten how open the game was up until the last few minutes. I can take the truth, I regularly berate my own county men for whining on here when it isn't warranted. And lastly you seem to think that the referee being stricter on Mayo had something to do with the Donegal loss in the final? It didn't bud, it was the dreadful defending in the first 10 minutes. So build a bridge Jim and move on.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8095 - 30/08/2016 16:58:02    1908234

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Yes that's where Mayo are better than Dublin...in the art of skulduggery (compliment)
JG and the boys will have to come up with some tactics on how to counter this. And have a few strokes of the dark arts themselves

Floops (Dublin) - Posts: 1623 - 30/08/2016 16:59:44    1908237

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Replying To Floops:  "Yes that's where Mayo are better than Dublin...in the art of skulduggery (compliment)
JG and the boys will have to come up with some tactics on how to counter this. And have a few strokes of the dark arts themselves"
The ref will need to be strong all right to mind those angels in blue especially Philly and Dermo..ya wha

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11385 - 30/08/2016 17:08:33    1908242

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Firstly Jim using Joe Brolly as a reference point is not a great start. Secondly Mayo did what they had to do that day and got a deserving win. They were hardly creeling Dublin for the 70 minutes so get a grip. You seem to have forgotten how open the game was up until the last few minutes. I can take the truth, I regularly berate my own county men for whining on here when it isn't warranted. And lastly you seem to think that the referee being stricter on Mayo had something to do with the Donegal loss in the final? It didn't bud, it was the dreadful defending in the first 10 minutes. So build a bridge Jim and move on."
It is when he highlighted all the incidents as clear as day

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20682 - 30/08/2016 17:22:10    1908250

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No Mayo players have yet been accused of interfering with an opponent's vision. Argument over.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 30/08/2016 17:25:01    1908252

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "Firstly Jim using Joe Brolly as a reference point is not a great start. Secondly Mayo did what they had to do that day and got a deserving win. They were hardly creeling Dublin for the 70 minutes so get a grip. You seem to have forgotten how open the game was up until the last few minutes. I can take the truth, I regularly berate my own county men for whining on here when it isn't warranted. And lastly you seem to think that the referee being stricter on Mayo had something to do with the Donegal loss in the final? It didn't bud, it was the dreadful defending in the first 10 minutes. So build a bridge Jim and move on."
Deegan awarded a yellow card in the first 5 minutes after Mayo's very first cynical challenge

They went unpunished for the exact same stuff against Dublin, Again seveal incidents highlighted of such on the Sunday game

It wasn't a theory or some bizarre opinion of Joe Brollys

He was pointing out recorded highlights of incidents theflaker

You lost a major advantage straight away that you enjoyed against Dublin

No doubt Deegan was making a statement of intent that he wasn't going to pull a McQuillan

It was all off the back of a fairly established media campaign both published / broadcasting highlighting the antics of Mayo in 2012 against Dublin

I'm not making this up theflaker. It happened. Its documented.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20682 - 30/08/2016 17:28:29    1908254

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Replying To yew_tree:  "The ref will need to be strong all right to mind those angels in blue especially Philly and Dermo..ya wha"
... and diving, and targeting players

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20682 - 30/08/2016 17:29:37    1908255

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Replying To Floops:  "Yes that's where Mayo are better than Dublin...in the art of skulduggery (compliment)
JG and the boys will have to come up with some tactics on how to counter this. And have a few strokes of the dark arts themselves"
Oh yes, Philly McMahon and Diarmuid Connolly and Jonny Cooper and all those other shrinking violets on the Dublin team will have to somehow find a bit of badness in themselves to take on those bould Mayo rogues. How will they ever do it since they're all so pure and innocent and would never hurt a fly?

ZeitChrist (UK) - Posts: 154 - 30/08/2016 17:44:23    1908264

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Replying To yew_tree:  "The ref will need to be strong all right to mind those angels in blue especially Philly and Dermo..ya wha"
Yeh bleedin watch it yew_tree or we'll kick da bleedin head off ya!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8670 - 30/08/2016 17:53:06    1908271

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Replying To ZeitChrist:  "Oh yes, Philly McMahon and Diarmuid Connolly and Jonny Cooper and all those other shrinking violets on the Dublin team will have to somehow find a bit of badness in themselves to take on those bould Mayo rogues. How will they ever do it since they're all so pure and innocent and would never hurt a fly?"
Yeah I know but sure here's hoping...

Floops (Dublin) - Posts: 1623 - 30/08/2016 18:01:31    1908279

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Replying To jimbodub:  "... and diving, and targeting players"
And making contact with an opponent's súile, never forget that one.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 30/08/2016 18:01:43    1908280

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Deegan awarded a yellow card in the first 5 minutes after Mayo's very first cynical challenge

They went unpunished for the exact same stuff against Dublin, Again seveal incidents highlighted of such on the Sunday game

It wasn't a theory or some bizarre opinion of Joe Brollys

He was pointing out recorded highlights of incidents theflaker

You lost a major advantage straight away that you enjoyed against Dublin

No doubt Deegan was making a statement of intent that he wasn't going to pull a McQuillan

It was all off the back of a fairly established media campaign both published / broadcasting highlighting the antics of Mayo in 2012 against Dublin

I'm not making this up theflaker. It happened. Its documented."
You are talking crap. So Mayo were doomed after Deegan pulled them up after a few minutes? This is laughable stuff. The 2012 semi was an open game until the end, every team worth their salt gets away with. Honestly you clearly haven't a clue if you think a few incidents being highlighted on The Sunday Game mean Mayo got away with murder. Let me tell you why you probably remember being highlighted in 2012. Up until Horan took over Mayo were no good at cynical stuff, the panel on the TV were highlighting how they had adapted under Horan and were willing to get down and dirty, that is why it was highlighted. Again I tell you Mayo did no more or no less than any other team does including your own last Sunday, so please stop trying to rewrite history good man.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8095 - 30/08/2016 18:44:27    1908297

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Flaker, I understand your wish for the lack of bullshit comments but if that's what you're looking for, on this site of all places, do you not think you'd have more luck selling ice to the eskimos?? End of the day I view this place as a massive pub where everyone winds each other up and that ain't gonna change any time soon. Also, I notice you've bitten at least once on every one of these threads which invites parallels to..........a certain rugby poster. Just saying!

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 30/08/2016 19:20:44    1908316

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