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Replying To Mobot:  "As a netural watching that match it was a strange one. For 60 minutes Kerry were clearly the better side and I felt Dublin played within themselves and that was probably to do with the fact that it was their first appearance in an All Ireland final since 95 and were understandably nervy. Kerry were worthy of the lead thay had built up and it seemed they took the foot of the pedal around the hour mark because I think they thought they had the game won. Kevin Mc scored that incredible goal which turned the game on it's head even though I remember myself and my mates questioning how come Kerry did not pull him down before he got the shot off?? I'm sure it's something a few of the Kerry players regret to this day and maybe Sheehan is one of them and as a result the final of 2011 is a sore subject with him, hence he says the game was stolen or whatever but the game isn't only an hour long. As you said Joxer, Dublin's never say die attitude got them over the line on the day even when they weren't at their best and that attitude meant they were deserving winners. That win was massive for Dublin GAA and they pushed on to become the great football side we see today."
Dublin played better than Kerry in the first half

Led by a point and held Kerry to 1-02

I have watched that game maybe 20 times in full

The studio said that Dublin had the better of the first half and had Kerry where they wanted them

I think your opening sentence is pure daft if I'm honest - the better side for 60 minutes????

Dublin won the first half and started the 2nd half very well - Kerry got on top for a 10-15minute period in the whole match

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 26/08/2016 16:00:00    1906401

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Sheehan never called Dublin lucky. He said they stole the AI in 2011 due to Kerry complacency. A natural enough viewpoint from a key player at the time wondering what could have been done different. It was 5 years ago an irrelevant now in relation to the upcoming game.

If there is any talking up of Kerry it's not coming directly from the camp, and I would say the players are around long enough to know not to take any notice."
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Ciarraí abú! :)

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7859 - 26/08/2016 16:17:40    1906408

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Dublin played better than Kerry in the first half

Led by a point and held Kerry to 1-02

I have watched that game maybe 20 times in full

The studio said that Dublin had the better of the first half and had Kerry where they wanted them

I think your opening sentence is pure daft if I'm honest - the better side for 60 minutes????

Dublin won the first half and started the 2nd half very well - Kerry got on top for a 10-15minute period in the whole match"
Sorry Jimbob, you're memory of the game cannot be questioned. It's always great watching back your teams wins in a big game. My memory is probably a little clouded, as a neuteral you always find yourself leaning towards one of the teams and it's usually the underdog. I was definitely hoping for Dublin to win that day, it was nothing against Kerry but Dublin hadn't win it in a while so that made my decision for me, and to be honest watching it I just felt Kerry were that bit better and in control of the game up until the last 10 mins but thats just my opinion. I was delighted for Dublin at the end and it was such an exciting finish. The funny thing is that the tables have somewhat turned now, even though Kerry won Sam 2 years ago, Dublin are the red hot favs and rightly so. I can see myself hoping for a Kerry win on sunday but I'm really just looking forward to a great game between the 2 heavy weights of GAA football.

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 26/08/2016 16:40:28    1906420

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Replying To Mobot:  "Sorry Jimbob, you're memory of the game cannot be questioned. It's always great watching back your teams wins in a big game. My memory is probably a little clouded, as a neuteral you always find yourself leaning towards one of the teams and it's usually the underdog. I was definitely hoping for Dublin to win that day, it was nothing against Kerry but Dublin hadn't win it in a while so that made my decision for me, and to be honest watching it I just felt Kerry were that bit better and in control of the game up until the last 10 mins but thats just my opinion. I was delighted for Dublin at the end and it was such an exciting finish. The funny thing is that the tables have somewhat turned now, even though Kerry won Sam 2 years ago, Dublin are the red hot favs and rightly so. I can see myself hoping for a Kerry win on sunday but I'm really just looking forward to a great game between the 2 heavy weights of GAA football."
Nah no worries

You're fecking entitle to your opinion

Kerry had control for a period of the 2nd half, got sloppy, Dublin got a bit of luck and majorly capitalised with some great scores from play

Just feel that we def had the better of the 1st half and start of 2nd half

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 26/08/2016 16:58:46    1906430

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Nah no worries

You're fecking entitle to your opinion

Kerry had control for a period of the 2nd half, got sloppy, Dublin got a bit of luck and majorly capitalised with some great scores from play

Just feel that we def had the better of the 1st half and start of 2nd half"
Depends which camp you're in. If you're a dub then Dublin played outstanding football and overpowered Kerry. If you're from Kerry then you let it slip away, mcmenimins goal was the result of a completely unforced error, and turned the game for example. I don't see anything particularly wrong with either viewpoint. That's football. Players will always be disappointed after losing, especially such a close one.

Im surprised to hear Sheehan bringing it up at this stage but players are often taken out of context, I wouldn't take any notice. Both sets of players will be 100% focused on Sunday and I doubt Dublin need anything to pin up on their dressing room wall to get motivated. I doubt very much it'll have any bearing whatsoever on the game.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 26/08/2016 18:29:28    1906462

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Just feel that we def had the better of the 1st half and start of 2nd half
jimbodub (Dublin)

Definitely blue tinted glasses there. There is no doubt Kerry got complacent and your crowd respectfully drew level.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7859 - 26/08/2016 19:15:40    1906467

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Just feel that we def had the better of the 1st half and start of 2nd half
jimbodub (Dublin)

Definitely blue tinted glasses there. There is no doubt Kerry got complacent and your crowd respectfully drew level."
Take your green and gold glasses off!!!

H/T Kerry 1-2 Dublin 0-6 (Total of 3 scores for 37mins Football )

40mins Kerry 1-2 Dublin 0-8

43mins -63min Kerry Get on Top Lead 1-10 to 0-09 Were they outscore Dublin 0-8 to 0-1. For the other 53mins of that match Kerry score the grand total of 0-3.

63min to 72mins Dublin outscore Kerry 1-3 0-1 - Kerry's only score is a hail Mary from the basketball player. Dublin dominated that final 10mins.

Apart from the 3rd Quarter Dublin were the better team but that doesn't fit you agenda.

You should look no further than the 2 sullivans for the reason you lost.

Its an absolute myth that Kerry let that game slip Dublin won it had the bottle in the last 10mins when it counted

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 26/08/2016 20:29:50    1906481

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "
Replying To legendzxix:  "Just feel that we def had the better of the 1st half and start of 2nd half
jimbodub (Dublin)

Definitely blue tinted glasses there. There is no doubt Kerry got complacent and your crowd respectfully drew level."
Take your green and gold glasses off!!!

H/T Kerry 1-2 Dublin 0-6 (Total of 3 scores for 37mins Football )

40mins Kerry 1-2 Dublin 0-8

43mins -63min Kerry Get on Top Lead 1-10 to 0-09 Were they outscore Dublin 0-8 to 0-1. For the other 53mins of that match Kerry score the grand total of 0-3.

63min to 72mins Dublin outscore Kerry 1-3 0-1 - Kerry's only score is a hail Mary from the basketball player. Dublin dominated that final 10mins.

Apart from the 3rd Quarter Dublin were the better team but that doesn't fit you agenda.

You should look no further than the 2 sullivans for the reason you lost.

Its an absolute myth that Kerry let that game slip Dublin won it had the bottle in the last 10mins when it counted"
While I'm sick of being dragged into arguments about this game surely you can understand why Sheehan may have felt that this was one they left behind? It was a great Dublin win but could have swung the other way very easily. i don't think we've had a more exciting final since.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 26/08/2016 20:50:59    1906486

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "
Replying To legendzxix:  "Just feel that we def had the better of the 1st half and start of 2nd half
jimbodub (Dublin)

Definitely blue tinted glasses there. There is no doubt Kerry got complacent and your crowd respectfully drew level."
Take your green and gold glasses off!!!

H/T Kerry 1-2 Dublin 0-6 (Total of 3 scores for 37mins Football )

40mins Kerry 1-2 Dublin 0-8

43mins -63min Kerry Get on Top Lead 1-10 to 0-09 Were they outscore Dublin 0-8 to 0-1. For the other 53mins of that match Kerry score the grand total of 0-3.

63min to 72mins Dublin outscore Kerry 1-3 0-1 - Kerry's only score is a hail Mary from the basketball player. Dublin dominated that final 10mins.

Apart from the 3rd Quarter Dublin were the better team but that doesn't fit you agenda.

You should look no further than the 2 sullivans for the reason you lost.

Its an absolute myth that Kerry let that game slip Dublin won it had the bottle in the last 10mins when it counted"
I would just like to say that the "Hail Mary" by Donaghey in that match was one of the best points ever scored in an all Ireland final. Credit where it's due.

SirStrawHat (Dublin) - Posts: 58 - 26/08/2016 21:13:29    1906490

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "
Replying To jacktheDub:  "[quote=legendzxix:  "Just feel that we def had the better of the 1st half and start of 2nd half
jimbodub (Dublin)

Definitely blue tinted glasses there. There is no doubt Kerry got complacent and your crowd respectfully drew level."
Take your green and gold glasses off!!!

H/T Kerry 1-2 Dublin 0-6 (Total of 3 scores for 37mins Football )

40mins Kerry 1-2 Dublin 0-8

43mins -63min Kerry Get on Top Lead 1-10 to 0-09 Were they outscore Dublin 0-8 to 0-1. For the other 53mins of that match Kerry score the grand total of 0-3.

63min to 72mins Dublin outscore Kerry 1-3 0-1 - Kerry's only score is a hail Mary from the basketball player. Dublin dominated that final 10mins.

Apart from the 3rd Quarter Dublin were the better team but that doesn't fit you agenda.

You should look no further than the 2 sullivans for the reason you lost.

Its an absolute myth that Kerry let that game slip Dublin won it had the bottle in the last 10mins when it counted"
While I'm sick of being dragged into arguments about this game surely you can understand why Sheehan may have felt that this was one they left behind? It was a great Dublin win but could have swung the other way very easily. i don't think we've had a more exciting final since."]It think what Sheehan said was it was stolen from them not left behind.

Sheehan comes across as a very bad loser as I said before his carry on at the end of the league final was terrible.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 26/08/2016 21:14:51    1906493

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No point trying to be cute about it. I'm fed up with this mumbo jumbo that managers and players come out with before games. It's the same generic answers by all, "it's going to be tight", "we'll need to be on top of our game" blah blah blah!! If the Kerry pundits genuinely think they will win they they should write it and if not then they should again write it, same with any pundit from Dublin.
I think that the days are gone when columnists and pundits comments have actually any meaning or influence on a result. For what it's worth I think Dublin will beat Kerry but with very little to spare.

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 26/08/2016 21:25:42    1906496

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Elbow Ger Brennan nailed Dec o Sull with was da winning of the 2011 final..hopefully ref is as leanient Sun an Kerry get da chance 2 pull a few dub tails!!

blacknamber (Kerry) - Posts: 267 - 26/08/2016 21:29:01    1906497

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Replying To blacknamber:  "Elbow Ger Brennan nailed Dec o Sull with was da winning of the 2011 final..hopefully ref is as leanient Sun an Kerry get da chance 2 pull a few dub tails!!"
Agree with that, definite red. Declan was half concussed and guess who made the totally and utterly uncharacteristic mistake for the Dublin goal? Water under the bridge of course :)

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 26/08/2016 21:42:15    1906502

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Kerry will win unless

A) It's raining
B) Being to long since there last game.
C) Just don't Show up
D) Referee did them wrong
E) Emigration
F) Funding
G) Population
H) time wasting

Best of luck all, enjoy the game, let's take stock of winning and looseing well.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 26/08/2016 22:00:38    1906513

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2011 was a massively tight game and Dublins hunger won the day, they had the momentum and better fitness in the final stages what a game. There will never be agreement about it, but the fact remains Kerry were put in a box in 2011 and have been put back in their box everytime they have faced Dublin since, Sunday will mark half a decade of Dublin Dominance over the Kingdom if they win.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 26/08/2016 22:07:19    1906519

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Not surprised by them yet but hope to be come 5.30 on Sunday. Hope to be significantly better off too!!

dingle2 (Kerry) - Posts: 278 - 26/08/2016 22:11:19    1906521

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Dublin won it had the bottle in the last 10mins when it counted
jacktheDub (Dublin)

Your crowd respectfully drew level. There is no doubt about that.

Elbow Ger Brennan nailed Dec o Sull with was da winning of the 2011 final..
blacknamber (Kerry)

There's truth in that alright but it's water under the bridge. Our crowd were complacent on the day. Our opponent as I say respectfully drew level on the day.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7859 - 27/08/2016 07:41:50    1906584

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Kerry will win unless

A) It's raining
B) Being to long since there last game.
C) Just don't Show up
D) Referee did them wrong
E) Emigration
F) Funding
G) Population
H) time wasting

Best of luck all, enjoy the game, let's take stock of winning and looseing well."
I'm 50 yrs old. A typical fair weather fan. In all that time, I've never heard too many excuses for failure in the Kingdom. Griping, occasionally. Recriminations, sporadically. Feuding, cyclically.

What has always rankled is a failure to perform. Last September is a good example of that. Worse was the failure to quickly get to grips with 'puke' football in the noughties. Kiwis have a similar mindset: they cherish the memory of certain defeats to motivate them to avoid more of the same, whenever possible.

Will the game be dirty? No, but let's hope the ref doesn't start writing to Santie. Will Dublin wear Kerry down with waves of counter attacking and long range scoring? Not if we do the unthinkable and play defensively, as Donegal do. Will Donaghy and Walsh be deployed if we have to chase it? If needs must...but...with subtlety and variation, please

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 27/08/2016 08:18:28    1906589

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Replying To TheUsername:  "2011 was a massively tight game and Dublins hunger won the day, they had the momentum and better fitness in the final stages what a game. There will never be agreement about it, but the fact remains Kerry were put in a box in 2011 and have been put back in their box everytime they have faced Dublin since, Sunday will mark half a decade of Dublin Dominance over the Kingdom if they win."
Put in a box? They lost focus and lost in 2011. It happens. Learn from. Move on. Nothing to be gained from blathering about it endlessly. As for subsequent matches, Dublin 's results are a reflection of their talent and application. Arguably, Kerry would be on the cusp of five in a row with those players... so... spare me the tasteless, half hashed and lukewarm coddle!

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 27/08/2016 08:41:52    1906591

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "
Replying To GeniusGerry:  "[quote=jacktheDub:  "[quote=legendzxix:  "Just feel that we def had the better of the 1st half and start of 2nd half
jimbodub (Dublin)

Definitely blue tinted glasses there. There is no doubt Kerry got complacent and your crowd respectfully drew level."
Take your green and gold glasses off!!!

H/T Kerry 1-2 Dublin 0-6 (Total of 3 scores for 37mins Football )

40mins Kerry 1-2 Dublin 0-8

43mins -63min Kerry Get on Top Lead 1-10 to 0-09 Were they outscore Dublin 0-8 to 0-1. For the other 53mins of that match Kerry score the grand total of 0-3.

63min to 72mins Dublin outscore Kerry 1-3 0-1 - Kerry's only score is a hail Mary from the basketball player. Dublin dominated that final 10mins.

Apart from the 3rd Quarter Dublin were the better team but that doesn't fit you agenda.

You should look no further than the 2 sullivans for the reason you lost.

Its an absolute myth that Kerry let that game slip Dublin won it had the bottle in the last 10mins when it counted"
While I'm sick of being dragged into arguments about this game surely you can understand why Sheehan may have felt that this was one they left behind? It was a great Dublin win but could have swung the other way very easily. i don't think we've had a more exciting final since."]It think what Sheehan said was it was stolen from them not left behind.

Sheehan comes across as a very bad loser as I said before his carry on at the end of the league final was terrible."]Exactly, Dublin have been the better team for the last 5 years and the evidence is there for anyone who isn't too blind to see it.The puss on Sheehan said it all after that game.Kerry may well win on Sunday but they seem to be having difficulty moving on by the sounds of it.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 27/08/2016 10:49:32    1906608

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