National Forum

Opinions on Match Officials

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post


Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Even a good ref will make 5 errors out of 100 in a game, so refs and linesmen are generally ok. But umpires are a joke, they think if the ball is in the net it is a goal no matter what. no need for examples surely."
And sometimes not even then, if you happen to be an umpire when Wexford are playing Offaly.

Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 23/08/2016 17:43:10    1904994

Link

Personally, I don't believe that a TMO is the correct way to go. The TMO is being overused in Rugby Union, and moreso by the young referees who are trying to make a name for themselves. It seems to be a case of "if the technology is there, we're going to use it", and the young referees take the opportunity for every niggle in a game, and while the refereeing authorities and assessors will be buoyed by this, the fans will ultimately voice their displeasure.
As for the constant riduculing of own officials in the GAA, it is very easy for journalists and columnists to air their view in the hours and days after a game after perhaps viewing the incidents 10 times in live motion and the same again in slo-mo. We must remember that the referees and their team of linesmen and umpires only get one chance at viewing the incident and must make the call there and then.

xxB3B0Stunnahxx (USA) - Posts: 94 - 24/08/2016 23:17:45    1905584

Link

A game played on such a big pitch and with 30 players involved cannot be adequately policed by one ref when there is no offside rule involved. One or two kicks can take the play from one goal line to the other and without an offside rule to condense the action areas it must surely make sense to have a second ref. Only having to control half the pitch would make for a much tighter controlled game.

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 650 - 25/08/2016 08:54:14    1905614

Link

Heard alot on social media re ref on Mayo v Tipp so I watched the match and the Sunday Game again on RTE Player and I thought the ref did a good job, all pundits agreed the black Card was correct. Tommy Carr thought it was harsh and a player shoulnt be black carded so early in such an important match (which is a nonsence agrument imo.).
The red card seems to have been extremely harsh and most likely the incorrect but the video evidence is too poor to make a definitive judgement either way.
We didnt get any close up of that incident which in fairness to the ref he didnt see. The incident was brought to his attention by the linesman.
I have attended most of Mayos matches this year and generally I would be happy with their performance. There was one exception, but i feel refs get enough abuse without my adding to it. As regards video ref I agree with xxBeBo etc etc. It would slow down the game too much and inevitably frustrate supporters. Also it would not have helped with red card in last match and this was a game where there would have been more cameras than normal. Plus it would lead to double standards as you couldnt have this technology at every GAA match.

mod (Mayo) - Posts: 859 - 25/08/2016 10:01:48    1905644

Link

No one is saying a TMO has to be used all.the time. In big games there might at most be 2-3 areas of dispute. It could be used for black cards, sending offs. The the ref had a clear view of the incident then it's not needed, if he isn't sure then he can use it.

Everyone seems to be saying refs need support but are not suggesting ways on how to do this. 2 choices are to accept your team might get shafted in a big game due to a poor call or help the refs out. If you want to keep the rules the same then do not complain when a decision goes against you.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 25/08/2016 10:08:26    1905647

Link

Personally, I don't believe that a TMO is the correct way to go. The TMO is being overused in Rugby Union, and moreso by the young referees who are trying to make a name for themselves. It seems to be a case of "if the technology is there, we're going to use it", and the young referees take the opportunity for every niggle in a game, and while the refereeing authorities and assessors will be buoyed by this, the fans will ultimately voice their displeasure.
As for the constant riduculing of own officials in the GAA, it is very easy for journalists and columnists to air their view in the hours and days after a game after perhaps viewing the incidents 10 times in live motion and the same again in slo-mo. We must remember that the referees and their team of linesmen and umpires only get one chance at viewing the incident and must make the call there and then.
xxB3B0Stunnahxx (USA) - Posts:33 - 24/08/2016 23:17:45
TMO can be overused to some extent in rugby and it isn't more so by young referees. Yes referees in virtually all cases have once chance and from one angle to view any incident but that doesn't mean that a Television match official who can replay and re watch key incidents when asked by referee isn't a good thing.


A game played on such a big pitch and with 30 players involved cannot be adequately policed by one ref when there is no offside rule involved. One or two kicks can take the play from one goal line to the other and without an offside rule to condense the action areas it must surely make sense to have a second ref. Only having to control half the pitch would make for a much tighter controlled game.
ponga (Mayo) - Posts:341 - 25/08/2016 08:54:14
A second ref only works if you tighten up the rules, clarify rules around the tackle and define it better and change a lot of rules that cause a lot of issues now.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 25/08/2016 13:05:24    1905771

Link

Opinions on Gough today? I must see, great positioning from his umpires on the Hill side for the Kerry Goal. Kudos to them.

xxB3B0Stunnahxx (USA) - Posts: 94 - 28/08/2016 18:01:33    1907008

Link

Replying To xxB3B0Stunnahxx:  "Opinions on Gough today? I must see, great positioning from his umpires on the Hill side for the Kerry Goal. Kudos to them."
Thought he done ok, apart from the end where Crowley shipped a heavy shoulder to the head and got nothing. A free then would have brought Kerry level in injury time. Other then that I thought he was good.

Douglas_Hyde (Roscommon) - Posts: 90 - 28/08/2016 18:34:14    1907040

Link