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Ohh yeah they certainly could win it, I never meant to say they absolutely couldn't do it. More trying to say they wouldn't and that I don't believe in them. It'd be great for football for Mayo to win, I'm just being realistic. Personally I think they get to the positions they're in because they have O Shea but at the same time I've seen him fade away at key moments time and again, he was anonymous at times in the second half. I see this happen all the time in the NFL as in american football where a team is slated as "the most talented without a title" where the next year is always their year, sometimes it happens but it normally has to happen fairly quickly into the teams life cycle i've found, of course it's much harder to keep all the parts together in an american football team. It can be done but it'll take the career games of all their main men and in particular O Shea, it's pivotal he's involved in everything for the fact players react differently when they see him. In defense players don't want to see him as he's really hard to overcome and going forward he sucks players in...terribly hard to be disciplined with him because of his power, if you don't go to him in numbers he'll go to goal. Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 22/08/2016 17:23:35 1904565 Link 0 |
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Hope for Dublin???? What are you talking about! If I was a Mayo fan I'd go to Knock for a few days and pray that this average Kerry team do something out of this world which if it happened we would have nothing left in the tank for Mayo in the final, that's the longest of long shots but Mayo will be desperate for Dublin to lose on Sunday KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 22/08/2016 17:31:12 1904568 Link 0 |
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On our day we can beat either of them. Mental frailty has beaten us enough in the past. Gone should be the days that our next result is based on which opposition we face. The Dubs have been class under Galvin but they've hardly been outstanding this Championship. Rochford and, particularly, McEntee will have us better mentally prepared than any Mayo team, that won't be difficult says you. But defeatist atitudes like 'we have a better chance if we get Kerry' is just that, defeatism. We should stay at home if we're thinking like that.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 22/08/2016 18:00:21 1904573 Link 1 |
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TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7902 - 22/08/2016 18:14:12 1904581 Link 1 |
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I think we would have a better chance of shocking Kerry than Dublin. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 22/08/2016 18:57:44 1904599 Link 0 |
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Very few finals have gone against the odds in the past 10 years. 2011 maybe the only one? legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7857 - 22/08/2016 19:14:43 1904602 Link 0 |
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What's this ghost of 13 lark about!? They were beaten by a better team that day! JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 22/08/2016 20:30:26 1904628 Link 1 |
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Now then, don't be stirring the Kingdom pot JayP! If there was one game we left behind it was the '96 Final.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 22/08/2016 20:58:02 1904637 Link 0 |
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I'm not saying Mayo can't beat Dublin , they are the only team who give Dublin any problems and issues. Surely after waiting so long for an AI, you would rather play a team you are better than as opposed to the Blue Behemoth in their backyard? That is just cold,rational thinking in my mind. An AI is an AI you don't get 3 AI's for beating a Juggernaut even if the scale of the task makes it feel like winning 3 AI's. KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 22/08/2016 21:57:40 1904662 Link 0 |
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Look we haven't played well this year we have in fits and farts but not strung 40/50 mins of it. You would want to hope they will produce a full performance in the final. This is the worst performing Mayo side to reach the final maybe there will be a change in fortunes on the 18th. I have hope but like every game after the lose to Galway that I have expected Mayo to win the match but at the same time expected them to lose and they haven't been far off at times. A loss in the final for me wouldn't be a nightmare or take my mind off football I'll half expect it they haven't produced enough to suggest they will take Kerry or Dublin to fair I can't see anyone taking Dublin but I can still have hope. Hopefully the Mayo populous have something similar in thought and not get too giddy in the next few weeks. The only people I want to be confident in Mayo is the Mayo team better they have their heads down working out a plan for the final and not caught up in the hype machine and thinking they just have to turn up! Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 22/08/2016 23:11:09 1904693 Link 0 |
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I don't agree. I really do think Mayo have been looking towards Dublin all year. A Kerry win would change the focus and throw them off. This jinx is another thing people talk about regarding Kerry, But i suppose if you believe that you'd believe the talk of a curse on Mayo, Which I don't.....Also you keep saying Kerry are poor!! Well if they beat Dublin they're not a poor team!!!! I don't believe Kerry are poor anyway. Its the year of the underdog. Just look at Leicester, Portugal, Tipperary and the O'Donovans :P theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 23/08/2016 11:14:12 1904787 Link 1 |
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Kerry are poor in relative terms to Mayo and Dublin, I don't think its a poor side but lacking a number of key ingredients to beat the big boys. I'm hoping we do a Leicester and shock the world on Sunday and I know Mayo fans are too KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 23/08/2016 13:30:18 1904853 Link 0 |
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For God's sake, we are in no way going to be "doing a Leicester" if we beat Dublin, it's not as if we've never played or beaten Dublin, if Tipperary beat Dublin that would have been doing a Leicester. Not saying by any means it'll be easy, but it's not as if every single pundit, fan and person is saying "Kerry have 100% no chance". Get a grip. SecretsOfFatima (Kerry) - Posts: 63 - 23/08/2016 14:26:48 1904882 Link 0 |
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You sound like the wife. She's always telling me she knows what I'm thinking even when I'm thinking the opposite? You're not herself are you ?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 23/08/2016 14:28:30 1904884 Link 0 |
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Name 1 pundit who has definitely stated that Kerry will win, just 1 that's all I ask! Relatives of Kerry players do not count etc KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 23/08/2016 14:43:30 1904896 Link 0 |
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I never said somebody said we would definitely win, but the way you talk it's like we never won an All Ireland in our lives. While nobody has declared a Kerry win, nobody is taking it for granted or writing us off completely. Leicester were and are a completely different entity to Kerry. Leicester were almost relegated in their previous season, Kerry made the All Ireland final for a second consecutive year. We didn't disappear into nor come from obscurity, so this comparison is a stretch at best, delusion at worst.
SecretsOfFatima (Kerry) - Posts: 63 - 23/08/2016 15:09:31 1904912 Link 0 |
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I see a few on here and on social media that are getting so animated by people who are writing Mayo off. You can hardly blame people, Mayo have been way of where they were in previous years. They failed to beat Galway and followed that up with indifferent performances against Fermanagh, Kildare & Westmeath. They did play better against Tyrone but if Tyrone had scored their goal chance the game would have been beaten and Tyrone created enough chances to win anyway but poor finishing cost them. I wouldn't call their win against Tipp on Sunday comfortable either, If Tipp had scored a goal during their period of dominance in the 2nd half Mayo would have been in big trouble. Mayo look to be in a downward spiral but we'll know for certain either way come the 18th. TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 23/08/2016 15:43:51 1904930 Link 1 |
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I couldn't care less with people writing us off. If I was not a mayo fan I would have my money on Dublin...no big surprises. Nothing is certain in sport though and upset's do happen. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 23/08/2016 16:17:16 1904954 Link 0 |
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They get more success than weecounty Carlow or Wicklow.How many counties would do anything to be the Mayo 'bottlers'. As a neutral for the final I think I'll put a few euro on Mayo just because the odds for their opponent will be terrible...but also because I half think they still have a chance. I said before ,betting against Mayo is not a sure thing, they are a very strange team this year and to say Dublin(or kerry) would run away with it in the final is a bit mad.Mayo will either get hammered by 9/10 points and fall apart or win by a point or two,hard to see a modest defeat as Mayo have a habit of falling apart when they do at this stage. Three main reasons most don't believe Mayo can win next month 1.They have little form this year 2. It is Mayo in an All-Ireland final 3. They will probably be playing a raging bull of a Dublin team who have been winning leagues and All-Irelands all over the place and are unbeaten league and Championship . Combine everything and most would think you'd be a fool to put money on Mayo , maybe I am a fool but I think one thing is certain about Mayo that is also true for Tyrone they are not afraid to go at Dublin nor do they care they are playing the Dubs and there is not one of them on the panel who don't honestly believe they can win an All-Ireland. I don't think that is 100% true of any other counties,sure many think they can give Dublin a run for there money or have a go at them but do they believe beat them , probably not. I'm not totally sure all of the Kerry team fully believe either ,no offence to any Kingdom fans here but the last two defeats against Dublin were a little crushing to say the least and little has changed since then .Not saying that I know what all these lads are thinking but the loses would have to bring a lot of doubt about beating such a strong Dublin team.Mayo do put it up to Dublin when they meet (so far)and have beaten/drew with them in the last few years so we will see. I'd like to see a Kerry/Mayo final just for a change to Dub dominance but it will prob be a Dublin/Mayo. Of the two I'd imagine Mayo would be more up for the challenge than Kerry but it's all just speculation .Kerry could hammer the Dubs and Mayo , who am I to know. GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 23/08/2016 17:16:09 1904978 Link 0 |
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Yew-tree I'm sorry but they are bottlers! At the minute they're one of the best team in the country and have been since 2011, when they're not one of the best teams in the country they don't go to finals...they are at the minute so they do. There's a reason we talk about a big 3 or 4, the reason being it'd take pigs flying for anyone outside of that group to win Sam. Mayo have been in the group since 2011....to me it's a big 3 with Donegal possibly being the 4th and Mayo being the only one in the group to not win. Last decade Mayo were the 4th team for a few years but never came away with the cup, Cork turned up for a couple of years as a top 3-4 team and converted. Mayo consistently don't covert their position, they consistently have their worst days on their biggest days. I mean how does a team rip Donegal apart and then play as conservative as they did against Dublin last year, game on a plate for them and they switch....they give a Dublin team that had played no one a nice tune up and they add another All Ireland. It is bottling like, don't know how you can debate that...i bet Alan Dillon would give all his good years and finals etc. over for 1 AI medal, 2nd feels like nothing when you feel you deserve to win it Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 23/08/2016 17:19:33 1904983 Link 0 |