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Mayo in dreamland

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Why are people so confident in Kerry.

They've not done anything all year.

I'd say for the first time ever Mayo are praying Kerry win because I'd give Mayo a chance against them.Mayo will have no chance against Dublin if Dublin play well.

People talked up Kerry last year and Dublin were comfortably better than them in the all ireland final.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 21/08/2016 18:57:17    1904018

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "CD tis your in dreamland buddy. Mayo have badly regressed. The winners of dubs kerry will ATE them"
Tipp comfortably was your prediction wasn't it? Let me guess the ref swung it?

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7904 - 21/08/2016 19:10:01    1904034

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All the Dubs/Kingdomers here need to take note, NEVER ever think Mayo will lose based on their form.Everyone around me was telling me how we would walk over them , not for a second did I think we would.Dublin are in a similiar position as ourselves before meeting Mayo .A team with decent form ,full of hype .Them bam , hit by the Mayo train. I;m not saying this is their year or anything but all people seem to be doing is judging Mayo by their form.I wouldn't even put a bet on Mayo for the final .They could win by five or lose by twenty.I have no idea what so ever but don't expect to win just because they aren't in form , strange strange team this year.

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 21/08/2016 19:10:45    1904036

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Replying To avonali:  "To be honest I don't think they are in a good position at all. If this was a Dublin team who had stuttered their way to an All-Ireland without beating any Divsion 1 side I think we''d be worried that they had got into a Final utterly undercooked."
I don't think it is Mayo's fault that they haven't faced a Division 1 team.

GormlaighG (Mayo) - Posts: 77 - 21/08/2016 19:15:01    1904039

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Replying To cluichethar:  "ClondalkinDub you have more faith in us than we have ourselves But normally we have one great game a year Maybe with a little prayer and some novenas at Knock as Pat suggested we will squeak over the line But we can really enjoy the next 4 weeks Hoping for a great game next weekend God knows we need it"
Prayer is the best thing for us supporters. Since losing to Galway, I have said a rosary and implored many saints just before each game.
It's worked so far!
In particular, I ask Mary and St Patrick to intervene. After all, Mary choose Mayo to appear to people of Ireland and St Patrick liked it so much he spent a lot of time here.
Hard for any other county to beat that! !!

GormlaighG (Mayo) - Posts: 77 - 21/08/2016 19:23:55    1904049

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Replying To superbluedub:  "As always Kerry have a huge chance, never ever underestimate Kerry."
Nobody is underestimating Kerry apart from the people themselves?

9/2 in a 3 horse race speaks volumes what the people think!

Mayo are much shorter and people on here are calling them useless!

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 21/08/2016 19:23:59    1904050

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Replying To GormlaighG:  "I don't think it is Mayo's fault that they haven't faced a Division 1 team."
Well you could argue Tyrone are a Div 1 team and highly fancied to be only team to take on Dubs. Also you have Kerry in other semi who haven't faced a Div 1 or 2 team.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 21/08/2016 19:29:12    1904057

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "Why are people so confident in Kerry.

They've not done anything all year.

I'd say for the first time ever Mayo are praying Kerry win because I'd give Mayo a chance against them.Mayo will have no chance against Dublin if Dublin play well.

People talked up Kerry last year and Dublin were comfortably better than them in the all ireland final."
Ah come on. To say they've done nothing is harsh.

League final, hammered every team they've played in championship.

Some will say that getting to a semi after only facing Tipp and Clare (twice) is very handy. There's some merit to that but there's also some merit to saying that Tipp and Clare are better sided than their reputations would have you believe.

Kerry have dealt with them with absolutely no trouble.

They got stuffed in the league final but there's plenty of Kerry teams have won Sam in the past with much worse league records.

It's hard to know how good they are, that's what makes the championship so interesting.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4228 - 21/08/2016 19:41:51    1904069

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Mayo in dreamland and the nightmare to return and DT's to follow on Sept 18th.

TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 21/08/2016 19:50:48    1904083

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Gormlaigg I did suggest in my rejected message that on the evidence of today Mayo would do well to spend half of their preparation time in Knock especially if the meet Kerry who seem to have the Indian sign over them I meet the O Sheas'people often and much as they would like the Breaffy nephews to capture the coveted Celtic Crosses they feel St Brendan and King Puckare invaluable intercessors for the Kingdom But it's the Dubs by a veritable mile Molly Malone to out pray and out play both of them

37sowhat (Sligo) - Posts: 752 - 21/08/2016 21:27:05    1904150

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as I predicted, Mayo won today by whatever winning margin they wished to choose.

liner (Mayo) - Posts: 756 - 21/08/2016 21:28:28    1904152

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The problem for mayo is that tipp .made them look very ordinary .... if tipp can do that ... what would kerry r dublin do to them

rossy15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 617 - 21/08/2016 21:38:51    1904165

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Replying To bert09:  "Sign of a good team --playing crap and still winning.

Think this is finally Mayo's year."
And getting the Ref decisions has made the difference

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 21/08/2016 21:53:11    1904172

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Replying To GameOfTyrones:  "All the Dubs/Kingdomers here need to take note, NEVER ever think Mayo will lose based on their form.Everyone around me was telling me how we would walk over them , not for a second did I think we would.Dublin are in a similiar position as ourselves before meeting Mayo .A team with decent form ,full of hype .Them bam , hit by the Mayo train. I;m not saying this is their year or anything but all people seem to be doing is judging Mayo by their form.I wouldn't even put a bet on Mayo for the final .They could win by five or lose by twenty.I have no idea what so ever but don't expect to win just because they aren't in form , strange strange team this year."
"Them bam , hit by the Mayo train" what train? haven;t seen it yet more of a pedal car on todays showing.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 21/08/2016 22:08:34    1904181

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Replying To browncows:  "And getting the Ref decisions has made the difference"
We have lost a few classic games in recent years which included bad referee decisions against us. Nice to be in the other end for a change.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 21/08/2016 22:27:14    1904201

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It's true Mayo haven't put in a 70 minute performance yet but since the Galway game they've played within themselves I think. Yes Tipperary gave a good account of themselves yesterday. But I always had the feeling Mayo had enough about them to step it up when required to get the win. Mayo get a lot of unwarranted criticism, in particular from counties who aren't within an ass's roar of an All Ireland. I mean, if Mayo had gone out and battered Tipp yesterday by 20 points they wouldn't have got any credit either.

Mayo can now go underground, disregarded as any serious threat to Dublin/Kerry. A few good weeks on the training ground, ramping up the intensity and getting psychologically prepared. McEntee could be a big player in this aspect. A serial All Ireland winner (albeit at club level) with Crossmaglen, he is widely renowned and offers great tactical advice as well as the mental side of things. Come AI final day they should be like ravenous dogs taking to the field. They should be primed to "bring war" as Brolly would say.

Dublin and Kerry will go to war themselves this weekend, and while the winner will be justifiably favourite in the final, they should we wary of the men from the West.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9142 - 22/08/2016 11:11:07    1904340

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Replying To GormlaighG:  "I don't think it is Mayo's fault that they haven't faced a Division 1 team."
This 'division 1 team' stuff is bs, imo. There's Dublin, Kerry & Mayo left. The usual suspects. Donegal appear to be falling off that top level a bit as years go by, and Tyrone are probably the team most likely to replace them. Mayo are also falling away imo, unless they can arrest the slide for one glorious afternoon next month. You can forget the rest for now, whether they have a 'div 1 tag' or not. Galway beat two 'division 1' teams back to back this summer, and were then annihilated by a 'division 3' team in Croke Park. Roscommon qualify as a 'division 1' team, which scarcely improves the credibility of that tag currently.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3430 - 22/08/2016 11:45:51    1904355

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I don't think either Dublin or Kerry are the kind of teams that will think to themselves that they can take it easy should they get through on Sunday just because Mayo have supposedly played within themselves so far in the championship. I can see the logic as to why Mayo might be happier going into the final with less expectation but there's always the chance that the expectation is merited.
Mayo do look like they're finally tackling their tactical shortcomings from previous seasons but I don't think it's refined enough yet. Yes Barry Moran patrolled inside the D well at times and cut off that point of Tipp throwing high ball in there. However, Tipp cut through Mayo with ease a couple of times and were unlucky not to capitalise. Considering Tipp scored a lot against Galway playing the direct running game, I thought it was strange that Mayo put Moran of all people to play sweeper. I thought McLoughlin was the more obvious choice but it didn't exactly backfire either. Mayo are still getting used to this new set up and there were a couple of times that Mayo players were looking around wondering where they needed to be.
Although Mayo looked really god in that 10 minute period just before half time, we need to come back to the fact that this was Tipp they were playing. Once the boat started rocking for this inexperienced Tipp team it really showed. Kerry did this to Tipp in Munster and no one seemed surprised, so because Tipp have beaten a few other teams on the trot since then wasn't going to change the outcome too much.
On the plus side, Andy Moran and Keith Higgins were real leaders out there yesterday. They got the team back up and running when it was badly needed at crucial times. They will be needed to do the same again come the final

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 22/08/2016 12:06:01    1904370

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When was the last time a team got to a final without playing a division 1 team along the way....Dublin in 2011.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 22/08/2016 12:08:50    1904374

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Replying To yew_tree:  "When was the last time a team got to a final without playing a division 1 team along the way....Dublin in 2011."
I don't see the issue with this so called 'div1 team' aspect. Roscommon were graded higher than Tyrone in the NFL table in 2016, but nobody thinks that they are remotely as good a side. It makes the whole 'not beating a div1 team' discussion sound hollow & silly, imo. The problem I see with Mayo is that a number of their more seasoned players aren't in great form this season, but they beat Tyrone when it mattered, and deserve their place in the final on the back of that.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3430 - 22/08/2016 12:37:29    1904397

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