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If you could have three wishes from the GAA?

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Stop clock
Video ref
Sin bin.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 23/08/2016 11:18:13    1904793

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Replying To GameOfTyrones:  "Seems to be a general theme about scrapping black card, bringing in a stop clock and changing the structure of the championship. Pitty the GAA don't actually listen to the opinion of the fans/players on this stuff. Three very easy things to change, the stop clock is as obvious as day and night, but strange soccer still hasn't adapted it either.Works well in Rugby ,basketball etc, makes time wasting that bit harder."
At least the injury time in soccer bears some resemblance to the actual stoppages. We had the generic "there will be two minutes....." no matter how many stoppages we had. Now the magic number seems to be six. It seems to be pull a number out of the air and it will be grand. Have a timekeeper at championship games to stop the clock when there are substitutions or injuries and give the ref the option of adding on time for time wasting.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 23/08/2016 11:52:08    1904814

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Condense the season, AI finals in August. Why does it take 4 months to complete the AI hurling championship with around 14 teams?
Football run on a round robin/ champions league format, with extra time and no replays. End of back door system.

Motions to GAA Congress passed on a simple majority, rather than the two thirds requirement.


Restrict the hand pass in football, it's awful to watch. Tipp showed how to play football v Galway and Mayo.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1746 - 23/08/2016 12:03:49    1904816

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provincial league & champions league type format for championship
3 players must remain in opponents half
tax free prize money based on team performance in championship

JammyDodger (Meath) - Posts: 306 - 23/08/2016 12:39:10    1904827

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Three Lower Hogans please

liner (Mayo) - Posts: 756 - 23/08/2016 13:43:28    1904859

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sin bin in/black card out
video ref(all intercounty championship games to start)
provincials out/champions league format in

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 23/08/2016 14:08:17    1904873

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sin bin in/black card out
video ref(all intercounty championship games to start)
provincials out/champions league format in
kavvie (Clare) - Posts:367 - 23/08/2016 14:08:17
Why do you want to get rid of the provincial championships and how does a champions league format of 8 groups of 4 playing 6 games each in its place be better

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 23/08/2016 15:47:01    1904937

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re champions league format - group stage was tried in hurling from 2005 - 2007 - a cork v tipp game in 2007 only drew around 7k at a time when cork has only 2 seasons before been all ireland champions- i dont think it really took off

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 23/08/2016 16:25:22    1904955

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "sin bin in/black card out
video ref(all intercounty championship games to start)
provincials out/champions league format in
kavvie (Clare) - Posts:367 - 23/08/2016 14:08:17
Why do you want to get rid of the provincial championships and how does a champions league format of 8 groups of 4 playing 6 games each in its place be better"
I think the champions league format people chat about involves 3 group games only.

I agree though, I don't really think the guys calling for a removal of the provincial championships are actually thinking the thing the whole way through.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4236 - 23/08/2016 16:33:14    1904957

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "At least the injury time in soccer bears some resemblance to the actual stoppages. We had the generic "there will be two minutes....." no matter how many stoppages we had. Now the magic number seems to be six. It seems to be pull a number out of the air and it will be grand. Have a timekeeper at championship games to stop the clock when there are substitutions or injuries and give the ref the option of adding on time for time wasting."
Yeah 6 minutes seems to be coming up a lot these days. Then an extra two thrown onto the six by the ref.It's all too nail biting and confusing ,less controversy if there was a stopclock.

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 23/08/2016 16:38:56    1904962

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re champions league format - group stage was tried in hurling from 2005 - 2007 - a cork v tipp game in 2007 only drew around 7k at a time when cork has only 2 seasons before been all ireland champions- i dont think it really took off
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:570 - 23/08/2016 16:25:22
It was but no reason it shouldn't be tried again and tried in gaelic and that cork tipp game was a dead rubber with both teams already qualified from the group stage to the quarter finals.

I think the champions league format people chat about involves 3 group games only.
I agree though, I don't really think the guys calling for a removal of the provincial championships are actually thinking the thing the whole way through.
Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts:804 - 23/08/2016 16:33:14
ok. thanks. its just when I hear champions league format I immediately think of a group stage where teams play home and away
removing provincial championships is bonkers as it removes finals. reduces chances of smaller teams ever winning a trophy and isn't good for pr/media coverage

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 23/08/2016 16:44:59    1904964

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Amalgamate smaller neighbouring counties and work towards a premier league system where all teams (aim for about 12-14) can actually compete with each other.
Build three further 30/40,000 mainly all seater stadiums around the country.
Have the game semi pro with no transfer system

realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 24/08/2016 14:32:51    1905351

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Replying To realman2:  "Amalgamate smaller neighbouring counties and work towards a premier league system where all teams (aim for about 12-14) can actually compete with each other.
Build three further 30/40,000 mainly all seater stadiums around the country.
Have the game semi pro with no transfer system"
More stadiums of that size are you bonkers, there are already great stadia dotted around the country that are underused. No need to add to that - Casement Park aside.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 24/08/2016 14:48:43    1905360

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Replying To JoeSoap:  "More stadiums of that size are you bonkers, there are already great stadia dotted around the country that are underused. No need to add to that - Casement Park aside."
There is one nice stadium in the country for GAA. The rest are kips. You are like most Irish people in that you have a poor appreciation that building a nice stadia takes a sport to a new level and attracts people to venues as much to see the stadium as to see the sport within it.

We in ireland are so used to watching GAA in kippish stadiums that most of us don't actually mind it anymore.

realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 24/08/2016 15:06:47    1905367

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Replying To realman2:  "There is one nice stadium in the country for GAA. The rest are kips. You are like most Irish people in that you have a poor appreciation that building a nice stadia takes a sport to a new level and attracts people to venues as much to see the stadium as to see the sport within it.

We in ireland are so used to watching GAA in kippish stadiums that most of us don't actually mind it anymore."
Ahh howld on their a minute now, breeze blocks, barbed wire and galvanised roofs have their appeal too you know.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 24/08/2016 15:18:25    1905378

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Replying To realman2:  "There is one nice stadium in the country for GAA. The rest are kips. You are like most Irish people in that you have a poor appreciation that building a nice stadia takes a sport to a new level and attracts people to venues as much to see the stadium as to see the sport within it.

We in ireland are so used to watching GAA in kippish stadiums that most of us don't actually mind it anymore."
Most of our current stadiums are underused as it is.

As for your semi professionalism idea, it is unlikely to be economically viable.

Paying players but not allowing transfers would break labour laws.

Counties are unlikely to want to amalgamate.

Supporters would like have less affinity with the amalgamated team.

Semi professional players would be more restricted from playing club football.

Other than that, it's a good idea.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4236 - 24/08/2016 15:22:47    1905382

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Replying To realman2:  "There is one nice stadium in the country for GAA. The rest are kips. You are like most Irish people in that you have a poor appreciation that building a nice stadia takes a sport to a new level and attracts people to venues as much to see the stadium as to see the sport within it.

We in ireland are so used to watching GAA in kippish stadiums that most of us don't actually mind it anymore."
There are 9 grounds around the country that have capacities greater than 30k with one of those not in use at the minute (Casement). Why on earth are you going to build more white elephants around the country when these stadia are already underused? How many championship matches does the Gaelic Grounds get for example? Or Pearse Stadium?

Crazy idea and sneering at me for being "like most Irish people" doesn't help your case.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 24/08/2016 15:46:06    1905393

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Replying To Whammo86:  "Most of our current stadiums are underused as it is.

As for your semi professionalism idea, it is unlikely to be economically viable.

Paying players but not allowing transfers would break labour laws.

Counties are unlikely to want to amalgamate.

Supporters would like have less affinity with the amalgamated team.

Semi professional players would be more restricted from playing club football.

Other than that, it's a good idea."
The game need to modernise. The Premier league shows how a successful sports competition works.

I suggest we copy it as much as we can because the games itself are a very marketable product, the only thing holding it back is the outdated county structure which leads to most teams just making up the numbers, too few games between teams that can compete with each other and the poor infrastructure (stadiums that are sh!tholes).

If you have a county season that lasts from March to August (24 weeks) you still have time for players to play in their club championship.

I know words like Marketable product in regards to GAA are evil since Joe Brolly decreed it so but I don't subscribe to his thinking.

The GAA have a brilliant sport/product in my view and should look to maximise it's potential. I'd personally much rather watch a close game in a nice stadium with amalgamated teams where the winner means something than watch a game between wexford and kildare where both teams are just making up the numbers and the winner is just cannon fodder.

realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 24/08/2016 15:56:51    1905397

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There is one nice stadium in the country for GAA. The rest are kips.
realman2 (Kildare) - Posts:386 - 24/08/2016 15:06:47 1905367

thurles fitzgerald stadium and gaelic grounds, nowlan park , pearse park wexford park aint kips might be more but not familiar with them

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 24/08/2016 15:59:15    1905398

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Replying To JoeSoap:  "There are 9 grounds around the country that have capacities greater than 30k with one of those not in use at the minute (Casement). Why on earth are you going to build more white elephants around the country when these stadia are already underused? How many championship matches does the Gaelic Grounds get for example? Or Pearse Stadium?

Crazy idea and sneering at me for being "like most Irish people" doesn't help your case."
They can have capacities of 200k for all i care, they are horrible outdated kips that no one wants to visit other than to see the sport.

There are loads of stadiums around Europe that have great capacities that are no longer used (the olympic stadium in Munich for example). The reason being is that they are old and people were sick of them.

realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 24/08/2016 16:01:05    1905401

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