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Let's just hope actions will come from his words. I want to be greedy and win as many as possible this team is capable of it. We've been stuck in the 20s since 1971 time to kick it on and set a target of at least 30 titles by 2020!!! WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 06/09/2016 17:03:59 1910845 Link 0 |
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Tipp saved hurling this year. I don't think I could have handled the Killkenny domination continuing. Please God they don't win leinster or the all Ireland next year. PLEASE!! ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 06/09/2016 17:12:06 1910851 Link 0 |
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Today was the most "wristy" performance I've seen since Cork demolished Clare in the 2003 Munster championship. Men against boys stuff. Tipp could have won by 19 points had the mood taken them. Kilkenny didn't even look like scoring in the second half. As good as Kilkenny have been over the last 11 years, and as history has shown, they are a dogged team who live off the oppositions mistakes and capatilise with metal resolve. And as talented and as skillful as they have been, one thing they have always lacked, is that sheer "wristy" silkiness of the great Cork and Tipp teams of the past, including Tipp today. Tipp didn't just win, they played champagne hurling in the second half. Something the great Kilkenny teams have never done. It wasn't just a win, it was shooting practice ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 06/09/2016 17:44:20 1910877 Link 1 |
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Jesus your fair sensitive !
therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 06/09/2016 18:02:20 1910889 Link 0 |
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Undoubtedly Tipperary hurling has underachieved since 1970.Tipp have won 6 senior All-Ireland's since 1970.Think Kilkenny have won 19 in the same period.Tipp have a fine team and Manager now so it's not unreasonable to aim to win a few more All-Ireland's by 2020.As the saying goes, make hay while the sun shines and it's surely shining now on the banks of the Suir in the likes of lovely Golden and Dundrum.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2168 - 06/09/2016 18:10:45 1910893 Link 0 |
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Interesting that people say that Tipp saved hurling this year. I do believe hurling was saved this year, but not because KK were knocked off their perch. The real bonus from this year is that ultra defensive hurling & multiple sweepers were shown up as another passing fad. We have seen various different tactical attempts to deal with KK in recent years but this year I think tipp analysed KK and built their team on the KK template. They dropped their crafty 'runners' like Woodlock and brought in big physical players McCormack & Breen who can win ball. They also upped their intensity to KKs level and above. As many have said they out KK'd KK. Great credit should go to both KK & Tipp for lighting up the game with traditional 15 v 15 hurling for the past few years when other teams were bringing hurling to a bad place. Galway stuck with tradition too. It would have been very easy for Cody to deploy a sweeper last weekend when Tipps FF line were running riot (and in retrospect he may have been better off) but credit to him for putting trust in his backline, and getting numbers up the field. It may have resulted in KKs biggest loss in a final for some time, but they threw caution to the wind and kept going til the end. You can't ask for much more than that... Lookit (Kilkenny) - Posts: 12 - 06/09/2016 20:51:35 1910961 Link 0 |
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Tipp saved hurling this year. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 06/09/2016 20:58:01 1910966 Link 0 |
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I wouldn't worry about Jack_Goff, he's a known enemy of success. Hates all of Kerry, Dublin and Kilkenny. Why is that? Well because they have the nerve to play our games better than the others. How dare they show skill, heart, determination. How dare their children be allowed to spend their summers mastering the skills of our game. How dare they hog all the titles. What about Meath. They deserve to be winning again, you know why, because. Just because. Move Dublin out of Leinster football, move Kilkenny from Ireland. Their footballers play in Britain sure that'll do the hurlers too. If Tipp win another couple soon he'll added them to his hate left, don't worry about that. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 06/09/2016 21:18:17 1910974 Link 0 |
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I can accept being hammered by a vastly superior team but some chappie from Meath using one result to try rewrite over a century of Kilkenny hurling history, is a bit hard to stomach. Did he have anything similar to say about Tipp hurling when we scored 4-24 and won by 18 points in 2012?
ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 06/09/2016 21:58:37 1910987 Link 0 |
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as Coady would say it's all about the present, the past is the past, it's about now. therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 06/09/2016 22:19:14 1910995 Link 0 |
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True realmo, true. But all the same, I'm sure you wouldn't like some gobdaw from a non-hurling county p***ing all over Tipp's hurling history and tradition on the basis of one bad defeat.
ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 07/09/2016 00:25:02 1911037 Link 0 |
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Murphy was poor alright. I had to look back at O'Dwyer's goal again to see if it was as bad as I thought at first viewing and unfortunately he was badly at fault. He was goalside of O'Dwyer when he lost his hurl, but all he had to do was extend his arms out and block O'Dwyer's path in one of those football/basketball style "shadows". I don't think O'Dwyer would have got past him in that scenario. Maybe he would've given away a free or maybe O'Dwyer would've been forced to play the ball away or be done for over-carrying, but instead, inexplicably, he decided to reach down to pick up his hurl and gave O'Dwyer a free run on the goal. It really was an incredible decision but it was symptomatic of the fuzzy thinking and poor decision-making by the Kilkenny full-back line all day. Someone said to me that Shane Prendergast won 3 balls in the first half and each one of them was sailing over his own bar a few seconds later, such was his slowness of thought in getting rid of the ball. And of course, Prendergast was the one who gave an absolutely horrific handpass to either Buckley or Joyce (have to look back at it) that allowed Noel McGrath to intercept and set up his brother for the second Tipp goal. It was shocking stuff. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 07/09/2016 10:54:26 1911152 Link 0 |
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Replying To ballydalane: "Tipp saved hurling this year. I don't think I could have handled the Killkenny domination continuing. Please God they don't win leinster or the all Ireland next year. PLEASE!! janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 07/09/2016 10:57:13 1911157 Link 0 |
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Is that Meath, the non-hurling county that won this year's Christy Ring after 2 outstanding games against Antrim and will be in the Liam Mccarthy next year? Cody showed a bit of class after the game Sunday, you could learn a bit from it. Of course Kilkenny have produced wristy hurlers but they also tend to play a more physical game traditionally than some other counties, it was hardly a big insult from him.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 07/09/2016 10:58:08 1911159 Link 0 |
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"....they also tend to play a more physical game traditionally than some other counties....." You must be another one who thinks Kilkenny hurling history only began when Brian Cody took over. If you think Kilkenny hurling has been more physical "traditionally" than you obviously don't know much about hurling history.
ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 07/09/2016 11:17:58 1911178 Link 2 |
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I'll retract the "non-hurling county" jibe but he's still a gobdaw; "...one thing they have always lacked, is that sheer "wristy" silkiness of the great Cork and Tipp teams of the past, including Tipp today. Tipp didn't just win, they played champagne hurling in the second half. Something the great Kilkenny teams have never done" So Kilkenny have "always" lacked wristy, silky hurlers and have "never" played champagne hurling. That's two gratuitous insults to the tradition and heritage of Kilkenny hurling right there. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 07/09/2016 11:33:33 1911191 Link 0 |
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It is a nonsense to say that Tipp saved hurling. I do hope we have a more competitive championship going forward where a number of teams are genuinely able to compete to win it and we have lots of big matches. I think KK will recover from such a bad defeat on Sunday. Mentally, they will know that they are still an excellent team and this was just a poor day at the office. However, I think it was more Tipperary being excellent than KK being poor. The performance from the full forward line was as good as any that I have ever seen. Crucially, KK will be back as strong as ever next year. If Tipp had lost on Sunday, how would they have reacted? How many beatings could they take against the same team? (KK have knocked them out in 2011,2012, 2013 and 2014 as well as two league final defeats). Besides Tipp and KK, who else are the genuine competitors. Waterford took a hammering from Tipp in Munster final. They ran KK close but ultimately we have seen how KK have done in the final. How do Waterford feel now? What about Galway? Clare? Do any of the other teams even have the slightest chance of reaching the intensity of Tipp and Kilkenny. I went to that match with some lads from the club and we shudder at the thought of Cork coming up against either of the two teams at that intensity. In conclusion, Tipp did not 'save' hurling but I am hopeful that Tipp showing that KK are merely humans, we will all be able to enjoy a more competitive championship goimng forward. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 07/09/2016 15:47:26 1911372 Link 0 |
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I agree we didn't save hurling. Why else would Kilkenny be playing hurling only to win same as Tipperary. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 07/09/2016 18:45:20 1911478 Link 1 |
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don't know if anyone has posted about it but how was joey holden left on callanan for whole game. callanan was magnificent but surely a switch should have been made. as enda mcevoy said in his interesting article in kilkenny people I t was stubbornness on part of management and also unfair on holden. richiepmurphy (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1 - 08/09/2016 11:08:51 1911693 Link 0 |
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I actually couldnt believe what Murphy did myself, I dont care what people would have called it but I'd have grabbed Bubbles around the waist and stopped him there, give them the free and take the yellow card. On the John McGrath goal, Prendergasts pass might have been poor but when he gave it, Noel was 2 yards behind young Lennon when the pass was given and he waited for it instead of moving to it. The Kilkenny full back line are taking all the flack, but I blame their half back line, with all the space they left behind them. No player could have marked Callanan when he had that sort of space to run into. Joe_Bloggs (Tipperary) - Posts: 186 - 08/09/2016 12:03:10 1911744 Link 0 |