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Tipp v Kilkenny

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Congrats Tipp well deserved

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 04/09/2016 19:15:47    1909929

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Expected Tipp to win but was surprised at the extent of their dominance. I too kept waiting for Cody to change the formation as it was obvious that Tipps front 3 were all over the Cats back line.
Kilkenny have been outstanding Champions but Tipp now look set for a period of dominance. Tipp have a young team, now that they are blooded they will take some stopping.

corkcelt (Cork) - Posts: 4388 - 04/09/2016 19:16:30    1909930

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Loved the scene at the end of the anthem, just seconds before the game started when a beaming Michael Ryan started shaking his selectors hands as if to say "Well lads, this is it". He seems to be a really positive kind of guy.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 04/09/2016 19:33:51    1909938

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Also next year Jake Morris will be some addition to the Tip panel

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 04/09/2016 19:36:26    1909939

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Replying To corkcelt:  "Expected Tipp to win but was surprised at the extent of their dominance. I too kept waiting for Cody to change the formation as it was obvious that Tipps front 3 were all over the Cats back line.
Kilkenny have been outstanding Champions but Tipp now look set for a period of dominance. Tipp have a young team, now that they are blooded they will take some stopping."
Galway should have beaten this Tipp team in semi final. Better team and lost by a point. That said well done Tipp. Galway will be back next year though.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 04/09/2016 19:39:16    1909942

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Great and deserved win for Tipp bar for two great saves from Murphy this could have ended up as a 15 pt drubbing .........Tipp did all the hurling in the first half but we're only up by 2 which was incredible in someways as Kilkenny were living off scraps and relying mainly on frees to stay alive ( thought Gavin did well by the way played the advantage very well on several occasions)....

Tipp showed their mettle when Kilkenny got a scrappy goal yet Tipp answered with the next three points, then once Bubbles got the goal there only looked like one winner.

The loss of Fennelly was massive, not just for his prescence alone but what it meant for re-organisation elsewhere in the Kilkenny team, with Reid and Hogan floating about the middle which left them devoid of real punch upfront....

I genuinely think it's end of an era as don't see that Kilkenny team really challenging again...think next year Tipp, Galway and Waterford will all be ahead of them so while they will remain competitive think they will be off the winners podium for a few years, the fact they were cleaned out in the full back line and made no real changes illustrates that they had nothing to bring on compared to previous years.

Well done Tipp but both Waterford , Galway and indeed Clare will all take home from what they saw today and push on next year so I don't think they will necessarily do 2/3 in a row although the talent is obviously there....maybe the desire to be first Tipp team to do back to back in 50 yrs will inspire them but don't think it's a foregone conclusion.

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 04/09/2016 19:47:19    1909951

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Replying To galwayford:  "Galway should have beaten this Tipp team in semi final. Better team and lost by a point. That said well done Tipp. Galway will be back next year though."
Correct and I'd love to think that if Galway had won that semi-final, they'd be All-Ireland champions tonight.However, I'm inclined to think that if Galway had won that semi-final,Kilkenny would be All-Ireland champions tonight.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2168 - 04/09/2016 20:06:21    1909959

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Replying To joncarter:  "Felt that Holden looked very nervous before the game (easy to be wise with hindsight I know), and yeah, Murphy is a real warrior, but O dwyer really bested him today.
2-15 from play is crazy stuff."
Agree with you there. Full back line for KK were cleaned out today. Prendergast and murphy werent great either. They dont seem to have much coming through at underage either u21s beaten by westmeath and minors beaten by dublin in leinster semi. They might be glad of a break from all the success ;-) .
Tipp have management, players and potential to dominate for a few years at least

fireinthebelly (Galway) - Posts: 89 - 04/09/2016 20:26:47    1909971

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Replying To fireinthebelly:  "Agree with you there. Full back line for KK were cleaned out today. Prendergast and murphy werent great either. They dont seem to have much coming through at underage either u21s beaten by westmeath and minors beaten by dublin in leinster semi. They might be glad of a break from all the success ;-) .
Tipp have management, players and potential to dominate for a few years at least"
I suppose In fairness who wouldnt be nervous marking Callanan. Id hate to mark that guy in a friendly club game, let alone an all ireland final. Amazing player.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 04/09/2016 20:45:53    1909975

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Just back from the match. I did say during the week that if the Tipp full forward line were on song that they'd win, but never could I have predicted such a landslide performance. It was a fantastic performance to witness, I never thought that Tipp could top the performance they produced in 2010, especially with the likes of Kelly and Lar gone, but that was one for the ages. Hats off to all involved.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 04/09/2016 21:04:21    1909985

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Usually when a great team is over the hill they can collapse on a big day. Kilkenny could have been beaten by 20 points they were completely outplayed . Tipp look well set up their competition may come from other teams rather than Kilkenny.

theduke66 (Dublin) - Posts: 334 - 04/09/2016 21:25:40    1909995

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "Just back from the match. I did say during the week that if the Tipp full forward line were on song that they'd win, but never could I have predicted such a landslide performance. It was a fantastic performance to witness, I never thought that Tipp could top the performance they produced in 2010, especially with the likes of Kelly and Lar gone, but that was one for the ages. Hats off to all involved."
Well done Tipperary doubly delighted as my mum is from Tipperary.

Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 143 - 04/09/2016 21:31:36    1909998

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What a game, thoroughly enjoyed watching it, enjoyed it so much I had to watch it a 2nd time on TG4, well done to Tipperary, a great result for them and hurling in general, the same county winning year after year does very little for the weaker counties

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 04/09/2016 21:41:49    1910003

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Replying To Stmunnsriver:  "someone just told me there was 107 stoppages in play over 70 min,m between scores, wides,frees, line balls etc great non stop action sure"
Jeez, nearly 50 of those were scores, when you have that many you don't see as the game flows directly into a puck out. Ease up. it was a great game

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2386 - 04/09/2016 21:56:44    1910013

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Tipp saved hurling this year. I don't think I could have handled the Killkenny domination continuing.

Please God they don't win leinster or the all Ireland next year. PLEASE!!"
Please explain how Tipp have "Saved hurling". They were by far the better team today and fully deserved their victory but "saved hurling"??? The games between Kilkenny and Waterford and Tipp v Galway done a lot to save what was a substandard hurling year and proved the talent that is out there so how exactly have Tipp, a county with 27 All Ireland's, saved hurling?? Many people thought Clare saved hurling in 2013 yet they have struggled since so how one victory in one game can be claimed as a victory that "saved hurling" seems a bit strange

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 05/09/2016 01:11:55    1910044

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Today was the most "wristy" performance I've seen since Cork demolished Clare in the 2003 Munster championship. Men against boys stuff. Tipp could have won by 19 points had the mood taken them. Kilkenny didn't even look like scoring in the second half. As good as Kilkenny have been over the last 11 years, and as history has shown, they are a dogged team who live off the oppositions mistakes and capatilise with metal resolve. And as talented and as skillful as they have been, one thing they have always lacked, is that sheer "wristy" silkiness of the great Cork and Tipp teams of the past, including Tipp today. Tipp didn't just win, they played champagne hurling in the second half. Something the great Kilkenny teams have never done. It wasn't just a win, it was shooting practice

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4122 - 05/09/2016 02:27:12    1910048

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Replying To theduke66:  "Usually when a great team is over the hill they can collapse on a big day. Kilkenny could have been beaten by 20 points they were completely outplayed . Tipp look well set up their competition may come from other teams rather than Kilkenny."
Kilkenny are Dracula. You think you've killed them off... but they come back stronger than ever. Look to your stakeholders!

Well done Tipp. A great performance. A Just reward. A vintage year. Here's hoping for more of the same!

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 05/09/2016 06:44:16    1910051

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Replying To PaudieSull1:  "Great and deserved win for Tipp bar for two great saves from Murphy this could have ended up as a 15 pt drubbing .........Tipp did all the hurling in the first half but we're only up by 2 which was incredible in someways as Kilkenny were living off scraps and relying mainly on frees to stay alive ( thought Gavin did well by the way played the advantage very well on several occasions)....

Tipp showed their mettle when Kilkenny got a scrappy goal yet Tipp answered with the next three points, then once Bubbles got the goal there only looked like one winner.

The loss of Fennelly was massive, not just for his prescence alone but what it meant for re-organisation elsewhere in the Kilkenny team, with Reid and Hogan floating about the middle which left them devoid of real punch upfront....

I genuinely think it's end of an era as don't see that Kilkenny team really challenging again...think next year Tipp, Galway and Waterford will all be ahead of them so while they will remain competitive think they will be off the winners podium for a few years, the fact they were cleaned out in the full back line and made no real changes illustrates that they had nothing to bring on compared to previous years.

Well done Tipp but both Waterford , Galway and indeed Clare will all take home from what they saw today and push on next year so I don't think they will necessarily do 2/3 in a row although the talent is obviously there....maybe the desire to be first Tipp team to do back to back in 50 yrs will inspire them but don't think it's a foregone conclusion."
Looking from here I still think a Tipp Kilkenny final is the most likely combination next year.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1354 - 05/09/2016 07:40:35    1910054

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Looking from here I still think a Tipp Kilkenny final is the most likely combination next year."
Think Galway are the second best team after Tipp at the moment.Galway need to beat Kilkenny in Leinster next year.Could see a Tipp v Galway Final next year.I think with the heartaches they've endured, that Tipp team will make a serious effort to win back to back titles.Don't think the mistakes after 2010 will be repeated and of course unlike then,the management will likely stay on and Mick Ryan is very impressive and has done a great job.Tipp needed a bit of a cutting edge.Eamonn O'Shea was a great coach but perhaps too much of a gentleman for that much needed bit of steel.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2168 - 05/09/2016 08:47:58    1910070

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Replying To 32_4_1:  "Today was the most "wristy" performance I've seen since Cork demolished Clare in the 2003 Munster championship. Men against boys stuff. Tipp could have won by 19 points had the mood taken them. Kilkenny didn't even look like scoring in the second half. As good as Kilkenny have been over the last 11 years, and as history has shown, they are a dogged team who live off the oppositions mistakes and capatilise with metal resolve. And as talented and as skillful as they have been, one thing they have always lacked, is that sheer "wristy" silkiness of the great Cork and Tipp teams of the past, including Tipp today. Tipp didn't just win, they played champagne hurling in the second half. Something the great Kilkenny teams have never done. It wasn't just a win, it was shooting practice"
Bizarre post. Historically Kilkenny were known for having extremely skilful hurlers and their players for being able to execute skilful flicks. Brian Coady has brought an increasing level of physicality to their play over the years but the skill level of many Kilkenny players over these years has been amazing, DJ Carey, Eddie Brennan, Richie Hogan to name a few off the top of my head. As for yesterday Tipp way the better team particularly in the second half but to say Kilkenny did not look like scoring is mad, they scored 2:20 in this match including 2:08 in the second half. In the last 5 minutes or so they had to go for goals so were working the ball in and Tipp were defending well.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1354 - 05/09/2016 08:59:34    1910073

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