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Replying To thelongridge:  "Why not popular on Noreside. Is it because he referees applying the GAA rules?"
Hahaha, oh stop funny cos it's true.

He is brilliant at refereeing the games to the rules which is not a given with hurling referees.

A good example is not sending off Hanbury for spear tackling Callanan in the process of conceding the penalty last year. Although it was dangerous play and stopped what would probably have been a match winning goal, had he sent off Hanbury it would have have been wrong cos the geniuses who write the rules don't allow for a red card in such situations. So Kelly had to flash a yellow card or he would have been marked down by the referees assistance.

I am not bitter about it though, c'est la vie, Galway outplayed us and deserved their win.

He gave us a chance to win the all-Ireland when Brian Hogan charged into Maher. That would be a reason for Kilkenny not liking him and the free to tie up the 2012 final.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 12/08/2016 18:12:06    1900379

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Replying To galwayford:  "Galway need a good start. Jason Flynn could give it to them. A quick goal would settle nerves. Also Hanbury needs a good game in the backs, as does Daithi Burke. I would not put Burke on S.Callanan."
Don't wish for quick goals!!!

2014 Galway score first minute in thurles and lose!!

2015 Tipperary score first minute in Croker and lose!!

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 12/08/2016 19:22:48    1900392

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Hahaha, oh stop funny cos it's true.

He is brilliant at refereeing the games to the rules which is not a given with hurling referees.

A good example is not sending off Hanbury for spear tackling Callanan in the process of conceding the penalty last year. Although it was dangerous play and stopped what would probably have been a match winning goal, had he sent off Hanbury it would have have been wrong cos the geniuses who write the rules don't allow for a red card in such situations. So Kelly had to flash a yellow card or he would have been marked down by the referees assistance.

I am not bitter about it though, c'est la vie, Galway outplayed us and deserved their win.

He gave us a chance to win the all-Ireland when Brian Hogan charged into Maher. That would be a reason for Kilkenny not liking him and the free to tie up the 2012 final."
Did he also send off Henry Shefflin against Cork in 2013?

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 12/08/2016 19:25:38    1900397

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Replying To WildPundit:  "Don't wish for quick goals!!!

2014 Galway score first minute in thurles and lose!!

2015 Tipperary score first minute in Croker and lose!!"
Yeah we all know Kilkenny don't care about another team having a lead , look at Galway in last years final and this years leinster..and not to mention waterford. Good start counts for F all against the cats , if anything it just seems to piss them off , probably easier to catch them on the hop

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 12/08/2016 20:32:07    1900420

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Replying To WildPundit:  "Did he also send off Henry Shefflin against Cork in 2013?"
He most certainly did. I left that one out in the last response so I wouldn't have to read a Kilkenny poster coming on telling us how much he/she hates Kelly.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 13/08/2016 04:25:31    1900492

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "He most certainly did. I left that one out in the last response so I wouldn't have to read a Kilkenny poster coming on telling us how much he/she hates Kelly."
Or maybe you " left that one out" because it was a terrible decision (which was rescinded after an appeal) and didn't fit in to your 'What a great ref Kelly is' eulogy.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 13/08/2016 11:59:23    1900553

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Or maybe you " left that one out" because it was a terrible decision (which was rescinded after an appeal) and didn't fit in to your 'What a great ref Kelly is' eulogy."
Thanks a mill for proving my point.

Sheflin deserved to walk that day for late clumsy tackles bourne out of frustration for not being able to make a positive impact on the match like he was accustomed to for the previous 15 years.

He should have retired in 2012 after the amazing displays he gave in the finals, especially the first day when Galway had Kilkenny beaten

If you bothered to read my previous comment you have seen how complimentary I was to Kelly even though Hanbury's spear tackle stopped Callanan scoring a 4th goal.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 14/08/2016 05:53:36    1900726

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Hard luck Galway. Another game that is bad for the ticker. When we say we know exactly how ye feel right now we don't exaggerate.

There is very little between the four semi finalists. A Waterford vs Galway final was not far away after the weekend.

I'm sure Galway will bounce back with a vengeance next year.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 14/08/2016 18:12:54    1900876

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Galway shipped some really heavy tackles, especially Joe Canning. Tipp lucky not to have man sent off. Also a lot of over carrying by Tribesmen. Once again bad decision making on sideline by Galway. When will they learn to keep their cool in the last 15 minutes.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 14/08/2016 18:50:11    1900904

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Replying To galwayford:  "Galway shipped some really heavy tackles, especially Joe Canning. Tipp lucky not to have man sent off. Also a lot of over carrying by Tribesmen. Once again bad decision making on sideline by Galway. When will they learn to keep their cool in the last 15 minutes."
I thought the two fowards subtitutions made with about 5 minutes to go, changed things for the worse. The never won anything up front after that. That said, I was impressed with Galway and thought they were going to win it up until near the end. Galway and Waterford could easily have been contesting this year's AI, the two semi's were so close.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 14/08/2016 19:42:10    1900934

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Thanks a mill for proving my point.

Sheflin deserved to walk that day for late clumsy tackles bourne out of frustration for not being able to make a positive impact on the match like he was accustomed to for the previous 15 years.

He should have retired in 2012 after the amazing displays he gave in the finals, especially the first day when Galway had Kilkenny beaten

If you bothered to read my previous comment you have seen how complimentary I was to Kelly even though Hanbury's spear tackle stopped Callanan scoring a 4th goal."
Proving your point? What point?

"Sheflin deserved to walk that day for late clumsy tackles" So why was his red card rescinded on appeal?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 14/08/2016 19:47:35    1900936

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Replying To galwayford:  "Galway shipped some really heavy tackles, especially Joe Canning. Tipp lucky not to have man sent off. Also a lot of over carrying by Tribesmen. Once again bad decision making on sideline by Galway. When will they learn to keep their cool in the last 15 minutes."
Sent off for what a shoulder to shoulder on Joe ? Get a grip lad, good game of hurling but not great, ref did a good enough job.

therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 14/08/2016 19:47:57    1900937

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Canning should have been kept on the edge of the square where he could do real damage, the free role was a mistake. Hope Joe makes a speedy recovery and hope to see him and Galway back on their feet again soon...Gaillimh Abu

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1197 - 14/08/2016 20:01:29    1900948

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Replying To therealtmo:  "Sent off for what a shoulder to shoulder on Joe ? Get a grip lad, good game of hurling but not great, ref did a good enough job."
Wouldn't have a massive issue with the tackle other than it was a free to Galway. Shoulder to shoulder? How did both go off with blood injuries to the head if it was shoulder to shoulder?

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 597 - 14/08/2016 20:25:23    1900964

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "I thought the two fowards subtitutions made with about 5 minutes to go, changed things for the worse. The never won anything up front after that. That said, I was impressed with Galway and thought they were going to win it up until near the end. Galway and Waterford could easily have been contesting this year's AI, the two semi's were so close."
In fairness it was with only 5 mins to go so expecting them to make a huge difference in 5 mins ? The mistake was not bringing on subs earlier as some guys were not in the game at all & left in for nearly the full game, that beggared belief. Tipp were poor today with one tactic that they never veered from all day & it never worked, poor tactically but they did make substitutions earlier like O Dwyer & they made an impact but were brought on early enough to do it.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 14/08/2016 20:43:28    1900976

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Replying To SamandLiamSoon:  "Wouldn't have a massive issue with the tackle other than it was a free to Galway. Shoulder to shoulder? How did both go off with blood injuries to the head if it was shoulder to shoulder?"
It was the helmet that caused the cuts, heads are bound to bounce around with a heavy shoulder to shoulder tackle, it was a perfect shoulder to many refs blowing up for these tackles when they should be clamping down on steps and the tackling with the hand across the chest.

therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 14/08/2016 21:14:42    1900990

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I hope Canning makes a swift recovery he took some heavy tackles, surprised he played on after the first as both clashed heads as well as shoulder to shoulder which just shows how heavy the tackle really was. It was a great game, very exciting, well done to Tipp and desperately hard luck to Galway.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 14/08/2016 21:19:57    1900991

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Hard one for Galway to take. I felt they were the better team in general play and were perhaps a bit unlucky with how things panned out with the badly times injuries to Canning and Tuohy, who were both having good games. If Canning in particular had been on the pitch in those final few minutes, things could have been quite different. Hope Joe gets back on his feet soon.

ZeitChrist (UK) - Posts: 154 - 14/08/2016 21:31:28    1901000

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Replying To therealtmo:  "It was the helmet that caused the cuts, heads are bound to bounce around with a heavy shoulder to shoulder tackle, it was a perfect shoulder to many refs blowing up for these tackles when they should be clamping down on steps and the tackling with the hand across the chest."
I won't get into it too much because again I don't feel it was that big affect. But your logic makes no sense. Either it was a perfectly timed shoulder to shoulder or it wasn't. If they clashed heads then it wasn't shoulder to shoulder, to it was shoulder to shoulder and head to head. So it was a foul. I don't think helmets flop about that much the ones I've seen are fairly rigid.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 597 - 14/08/2016 21:54:15    1901009

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Replying To therealtmo:  "It was the helmet that caused the cuts, heads are bound to bounce around with a heavy shoulder to shoulder tackle, it was a perfect shoulder to many refs blowing up for these tackles when they should be clamping down on steps and the tackling with the hand across the chest."
I don't know why players are allowed modify their helmets?

Kilkenny and Tipp faceguards in abundance today, and yesterday. They are dangerous as the edges protrude out too far.

The Tipp goalie had barely any bars in his helmet at all.

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 14/08/2016 22:28:08    1901029

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