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Loughnane/McGuinness: No great teams?

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Football eras can be contacted compared in the context of their time. The County Dublin team of the mid 70's in the context of their time were a great team. The 4 Regions of the 10's are good in the context of their time. Their is no great team at this moment. The 4 Regions would beat the County Dublin team of the 70's but that's not looking in the context of the time.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7853 - 07/08/2016 11:27:31    1897227

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Football eras can be contacted compared in the context of their time. The County Dublin team of the mid 70's in the context of their time were a great team. The 4 Regions of the 10's are good in the context of their time. Their is no great team at this moment. The 4 Regions would beat the County Dublin team of the 70's but that's not looking in the context of the time."
Please stop talking complete bull would you.

This Dublin team are a great team and are up there with any of the great teams in the GAA's history.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 07/08/2016 11:54:51    1897249

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Replying To legendzxix:  ""There is no way this Kilkenny team should be going for three-in-a-row." - Ger Loughnane.

Dublin 'absolutely are beatable' - Jim McGuinness.

Were both Loughnane and McGuinness more or less making the same point?

In hurling while the current Kilkenny team are good, they don't have the quality of previous teams that made a push for 3-in-a-row. Loughnane was rightly trying to light the fire in the bellies of their opponents.

McGuinness meanwhile was more diplomatic but he was subtly making a similar point in football. There's an obsession with the capital. As McGuinness points out, they are absolutely beatable.

They are not better than they were in '05 to '09. Our crowd that won in '14 weren't near the quality and level of our '04 to '09 great team. They got to the final last year in defence of their title. Only great teams usually win back to backs. It's no surprise they came up short.

With the capital keeping their level from '05 and no great team since '09, there's every possibility they can achieve the back-to-back. They can only take on the opposition in front of them in fairness. We're hindered, and it's our own fault, by neglecting our youth in the 00's. There was no way our side should have been going for back-to-back titles last year. The same applies to the capital this year.

Our crowd will be under pressure. They know the currency on which they are judged. Mayo with many years of hurt, They've lost to the eventual champions 4 years in-a-row. Is it their year. In hurling, will it be Tipperary or Galway to stop a good but not great Kilkenny team?"
The teams of from you mentioned from 2000 onwards did not have to deal with the blanket defence that we're seeing now .If any of the present crop went 15 on 15 with this Dublin outfit they would be obliterated that's why we are seeing this 13 or 14 men behind the ball muck in so many games. Managers and so called coaches are admitting they can't play football against Dublin and hope to win so let's frustrate them and hope for the best. If I had one wish for the rest of the year it would be to see a Dublin V Tipperary Final. Two Football teams going at it.

dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 07/08/2016 12:03:09    1897251

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If I compare teams from different eras in any sport it us only fair to assume if they were around at the same time they would be prepared in a similar way ie if I was comparing a team from 20 years ago to a team today I would assume that both teams had access to the same standard of training and strength and conditioning programs. For example yesterday's Tyrone team if they got a time machine would probably beat the Tyrone team of 2003 due to being fitter/ stronger (strength and conditioning programs has come a long way in 13 years) but it would be crazy to say Tyrone 2016 are better than Tyrone 2003.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1354 - 07/08/2016 12:06:23    1897256

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