johnwhite12 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 306 - 14/08/2016 23:48:54    1901063

Hard luck Waterford..Another awesome display and i really feel for Ya's..Had youse won I would have been after a Ticket for the Final.
If ever there is a County I want to see Winning an All Ireland its yourselves..Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.

InishowenMan (Donegal) - Posts: 216 - 15/08/2016 01:51:25    1901083

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 15/08/2016 08:58:46    1901102

Also I think refereeing is failing in the following areas in the game in general, not just the other night:
1. Use of the spare hand, stopping a player getting the ball away.
2. Steps, steps, steps. Hardly ever blown in any game. Even the Kilkenny keeper in injury time took about 10 of them before driving the ball down the field.
3. Dropping the hurl. Never ever ever blown.
4. Charging. Richie Power got a penalty for Kilkenny v Tipp in 2009 (I think) and it was absolutely blatant charging. Loads of other players get away with it too, just highlighting 1 example.
5. Throwing the ball. The rule should be changed that there should be daylight between the ball before it is a valid handpass.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 15/08/2016 10:19:27    1901135

"as a somewhat neutral"......yeah, right Pinkie.

McGrath was doing his level best to keep Waterford in the game and well you know it. In the second half, Waterford were 3 points down and Paul Murphy was blatantly, blatantly fouled by Maurice Shanahan when trying to gather possession. But McGrath wanted to keep Waterford in touch so allowed play-on and they scored an easy point. A free was given to Waterford when one of their players (can't remember who right now) just ran, jumped actually, straight into Padraig Walsh. Since you're talking about barging and all. Blanchfield was blown for a perfectly legitimate shoulder charge. Plus he played over two minutes in excess of the allotted three minute additional time in order to give Waterford an opportunity for an equaliser. We all know he would have blown the final whistle if Mahony's free had gone over, so why didn't he blow it when Murphy caught the ball? A ref's job isn't to keep a team in a game.

Also, please specify Kilkenny's "soft frees" because I'm wracking my brains trying to recall them. We didn't get our first free in the entire match until the 28th minute, and any free Kilkenny got after that was hard earned to say the very least.

"somewhat neutral" - gimme a break. At least be honest and say you were cheering for Waterford.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 15/08/2016 11:21:14    1901174

Of course I was cheering for Waterford, but that doesn't mean I don't see harsh decisions both ways. I have always said Padraic Maher on Michael Rice was the nastiest challenge to be allowed pass I have seen on a hurling pitch. I always said Shefflin was harshly sent off v Cork. So don't give me this "non-neutral" nonsense.
What about Cillian Buckley's blatant chop about half way through the 2nd half? Did you miss that also? There were a few poor calls both direction but this siege mentality you seem to have created is nonsense.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 15/08/2016 11:58:36    1901199

You said Kilkenny got some very soft frees. I saw the match both live and recorded on tv and that assertion is utter nonsense. Kilkenny barely got any frees, let alone "very soft" ones. What match were you watching?

And don't be so holier-than-thou about fans booing frees. In my experience, Kilkenny fans have only booed frees when they felt the ref wasn't giving them a fair shake, which they felt was the case last Saturday (and a lot of genuinely neutral fans obviously felt the same way if the opinions on this thread are anything to go by). And I recall Paul Codd when he was Wexford captain having to publicly admonish Wexford fans after a match for booing frees. So Wexford fans must have a similar "siege mentality".

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 15/08/2016 21:31:33    1901507

johnwhite12 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 306 - 15/08/2016 23:01:45    1901539

i have went to wexford matches for 30+ years in both codes and can tell you i rarely if ever heard wexford fans booing,also i don't recall paul codd saying that,so i think that is completely groundless claim.
we had a passionate 2 games v clare 2 years ago where we felt some decisions went against us,but i can assure you colin ryan was never once booed when he was taking a free.
if anything,wexford fans don't show enough passion any more when supporting our teams.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 16/08/2016 08:50:59    1901585

also kilkenny fans complain about referees,as already said where are all the referees from the county?i can only remember sean cleere in my lifetime,and he doesnt get any big games?why?

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 16/08/2016 08:52:59    1901586

was at the game - was brilliant even as a neutral i could feel the tension - was surrounded by kilkenny fans - as always their fans fought tooth and nail for everything every ball every decision- guybeside me was in his 70s and has seen kilkenny win 20-30 (maybe more all ireland) and still he (like all the kilkenny fans) was like a fella supporting a side who were trying to make their first all ireland final - any time ive been at kilkenny games recently its been the same , you would think in terms of hunger that waterford fans would be the hungrier, but no the kilkenny support was amazing, they have population of around 100k so to bring 15k fans to thurles was aroudn 1/6 or 1/7 of the population. Amazing stuff - pitch invasion and all after game too - privilage to be there

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 16/08/2016 12:55:59    1901749

mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 534 - 16/08/2016 14:44:30    1901846

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 16/08/2016 15:13:18    1901881

mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 534 - 16/08/2016 17:51:03    1901988

Lookit (Kilkenny) - Posts: 12 - 16/08/2016 22:58:32    1902072

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 18/08/2016 00:08:08    1902547