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Replying To juniorjudge:  "Am i right in saying alot of folk seem to think if waterford play outside of the system and open up we wil l give kilkenny a right crack? ...still cant see mcgrath changing so hope our accuracy from 80+ yards has improved....heart says waterford by two, hopefully not to by broken again!!"
Yes, my feeling is in general your system allows you to stay close to all teams in cship hurling but the huge lack of a goal threat won't allow you to beat the very top teams. No choice but to open up and really go for it

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 04/08/2016 15:55:00    1895662

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Waterford should have a cut like the 2013 qualifier

222 (UK) - Posts: 695 - 04/08/2016 16:09:39    1895683

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Hopefully Waterford will still be in the game in the final quarter and if they are they should be in with a chance. To stay with Kilkenny they will have to bring the same intensity to the game as the Cats bring, they will have to convert a high proportion of their scoring chances, and as an earlier poster remarked they will probably have to score a few goals.

clonjon (Dublin) - Posts: 665 - 05/08/2016 14:31:26    1896258

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Good piece here by Shane McGrath:

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keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 05/08/2016 15:47:43    1896291

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Replying To keeper7:  "Good piece here by Shane McGrath:

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Great article....austin to lead us to a 2 point win (17 novenas done this week)

juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 05/08/2016 20:57:44    1896415

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Replying To keeper7:  "Good piece here by Shane McGrath:

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Not bad, but two things.

1. He fails to realise that comparing the form and play of the Waterford players, who play for both the U21 and Senior team. is like comparing chalk and cheese. Two different managers and two different playing styles.

2. In his assessment of Kilkenny's strengths, he misses out one of the most improved players this year. who I think. if Kilkenny go all the way, could be in with a good shout for Hurler of the Year. Jonjo Farrell.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 05/08/2016 21:39:14    1896435

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To keeper7:  "Good piece here by Shane McGrath:

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Not bad, but two things.

1. He fails to realise that comparing the form and play of the Waterford players, who play for both the U21 and Senior team. is like comparing chalk and cheese. Two different managers and two different playing styles.

2. In his assessment of Kilkenny's strengths, he misses out one of the most improved players this year. who I think. if Kilkenny go all the way, could be in with a good shout for Hurler of the Year. Jonjo Farrell."
As of today austin gleeson has to be front runner for HOTY

juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 05/08/2016 22:16:47    1896453

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Replying To juniorjudge:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=keeper7:  "Good piece here by Shane McGrath:

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Not bad, but two things.

1. He fails to realise that comparing the form and play of the Waterford players, who play for both the U21 and Senior team. is like comparing chalk and cheese. Two different managers and two different playing styles.

2. In his assessment of Kilkenny's strengths, he misses out one of the most improved players this year. who I think. if Kilkenny go all the way, could be in with a good shout for Hurler of the Year. Jonjo Farrell."
As of today austin gleeson has to be front runner for HOTY"]He is [Austin Gleeson] a front runner. But for any player to be in with a realistic chance of winning Hurler of the Year. they have to win the All Ireland first.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2481 - 05/08/2016 22:37:00    1896459

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Hard to see anything other than a Kilkenny win, Waterford will probably do what Dublin and Galway did this year, stay in it until half time, and then get blown away in the second half. As regards Tipp and Galway, on the Munster final form you would have to say that Tipperary looked seriously impressive, but how bad were Waterford? Galway beat Tipp by a point in a classic last year, but were much the better team than a one point win, and you can guarantee that Callinan won't get 3-9 this year, as Galway are guaranteed to put Daithi Burke on him this time around. However you would expect the other Tipp forwards to be a lot better this time, so we are looking at what should be another classic, with Tipp shading it by a few points. All in all Tipperary are still better equipped to take on Kilkenny and would have a better chance of beating them than Galway, who just don't possess the mentality to beat the Cats.

gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 05/08/2016 22:38:04    1896460

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Replying To gilly2308:  "Hard to see anything other than a Kilkenny win, Waterford will probably do what Dublin and Galway did this year, stay in it until half time, and then get blown away in the second half. As regards Tipp and Galway, on the Munster final form you would have to say that Tipperary looked seriously impressive, but how bad were Waterford? Galway beat Tipp by a point in a classic last year, but were much the better team than a one point win, and you can guarantee that Callinan won't get 3-9 this year, as Galway are guaranteed to put Daithi Burke on him this time around. However you would expect the other Tipp forwards to be a lot better this time, so we are looking at what should be another classic, with Tipp shading it by a few points. All in all Tipperary are still better equipped to take on Kilkenny and would have a better chance of beating them than Galway, who just don't possess the mentality to beat the Cats."
'Don't possess the mentality to beat the Cats"
Strange comment coming from a Galwayman.Especially given the fact that since Cody took over Galway have had more success against the Cats than anyone bar Cork.
Is anyone saying that about Waterford? Waterford have one win in championship against KK and that was in 59!
I believe Galway have the mentality alright, as do Tipp and Cork.They just haven't been good enough on most occasions to do it.
Galway didn't fold in the Leinster final when KK got the goal, they fought back , got the gap back to 1 point from 4 but on the day could get no further.
KK (as they do) polished them off in the closing stages but it was a high quality game.KK didn't make mistakes, Galway made some and were ruthlessly punished for them.You would imaging Galway will be the wiser for the experience.
Waterford did fold against Tipp in the Munster final.They threw in the towel with 25 minutes to go.Why was that? Why didn't they get the full Ger Loughnane treatment? Why is nobody saying that Waterford don't have the mentality to beat the Cats? Is it because less is expected from them?
Waterford have had 3 massive mortifying defeats in big games in the last 8 years , 08 V Kilkenny ( worse final I ever saw) 2011 V Tipp (7 goals) and this year against Tipp when they shipped another 21 point defeat. Thats right 21 points!
How in the name of all thats holy anyone even gives them a chance against the most fearsome winning machine hurling has ever seen is beyond me.
Mentality indeed!

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 06/08/2016 12:09:28    1896553

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Im expecting a big showing from Waterford tomorrow......i wouldnt be surprised if they caused an upset. I'm a brave man so ill go for Waterford v Tipperary in the Final.

Rayo (Galway) - Posts: 90 - 06/08/2016 20:07:30    1896835

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I'm hoping for another Kilkenny v Tipp final. Its the only pairing that would be worth travelling to see

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 06/08/2016 20:45:52    1896882

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Not really bothered about tomorrows game as the cats will win. Ill tune in but I can only see yet another routine for the cats win on front of a smallish crowd (yawn).
next weeks game, and the final (possibly) will be good.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 06/08/2016 20:50:32    1896884

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And no doubt if/when the cats win tomorrow well hear the usual ramblings about how they are destroying the game from those who conveniently overlook the limp subservience of their opponents.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 06/08/2016 21:06:07    1896904

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Replying To joncarter:  "And no doubt if/when the cats win tomorrow well hear the usual ramblings about how they are destroying the game from those who conveniently overlook the limp subservience of their opponents."
In 2 posts you go from routine win for kk to if/when...where has the if come from? Do you actually know anything about the game?

juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 06/08/2016 21:50:29    1896952

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "I'm hoping for another Kilkenny v Tipp final. Its the only pairing that would be worth travelling to see"
I agree. As a neutral I find it a chore to watch any other pairing in the sport these days.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 06/08/2016 23:01:09    1897011

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Kilkenny should win this by a decent enough margin. Hard to see a big Waterford performance they just don't have it in them to beat Kilkenny in a big game.
Kilkenny will pick them off at ease and this game will be over 10 minutes into the second half as usual.
Kilkenny to rattle the net a few times in the process. John Joe Farrell is on fire and Richie Hogan will put in the usual eye catching performance.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 06/08/2016 23:56:00    1897038

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "I'm hoping for another Kilkenny v Tipp final. Its the only pairing that would be worth travelling to see"
Balderdash like this boils my blood.
There have been plenty of poor games between the 'big three' KK , Cork & Tipp.
But they are glossed over by misty eyed clowns who think at least one of the above have to be in a final for it to be
'Worth seeing'
I expected more from an Antrim man.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 07/08/2016 02:48:30    1897104

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Replying To Barnowl94:  "Balderdash like this boils my blood.
There have been plenty of poor games between the 'big three' KK , Cork & Tipp.
But they are glossed over by misty eyed clowns who think at least one of the above have to be in a final for it to be
'Worth seeing'
I expected more from an Antrim man."
Which AI Finals containing the big 3 would have been poor in your opinion?

Tipp v KK in 2011 wasn't great just in my opinion.

Cork v Kilkenny in 2003 was poor enough.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 07/08/2016 08:29:07    1897132

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I'm expecting us to win today by maybe 5 or 6 points. I'm expecting a similar pattern to last year. I don't think this current Kilkenny team can blow teams away in 5 minutes like the 06-09 vintage, they more grind teams down over the course of a match.

Expecting Tipp to avenge last year's defeat to Galway although someone made the good point that Callanan is unlikely to score 3-9 again so other players will need to step up.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 07/08/2016 09:06:16    1897142

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