National Forum

Unfair allocation of GAA money yet again

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post


Replying To superbluedub:  "How come Donegal,Mayo,Monaghan,Tyrone Kerry Cork are not decades behind??"
Agreed ,
you will have to remind me how our minors fared this year in football , oh yes spanked by Meath , and last year ???
Under 16s on Saturday beaten in the Gerry O Reilly yet again by Cavan
amazing the so called juggernaut has achieved very little since its golden generation went into the adult ranks
Amazing how an article about other counties getting preferential treatment becomes a vehicle for the auld anti Dublin die hearts to have a pop.
Leinster should support counties , some fans don't know the meaning of the word support .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 03/08/2016 15:22:09    1894850

Link

Replying To ziggy32001:  "Are they suggesting that each county will get 500,000 or 500,000 divided between 4? I would its divided surely?"
€125,000 per annum for each county over 3 years is my understanding.

beir_bua (Kildare) - Posts: 746 - 03/08/2016 15:28:45    1894854

Link

Replying To beir_bua:  "€125,000 per annum for each county over 3 years is my understanding."
That is what I thought alright..

That should help all counties I would have thought!

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 03/08/2016 15:46:59    1894867

Link

This barely beggars belief I can really believe what I have read.......The GAA have created this monster that is Dublin (fair play to the Dubs for lapping up all the money any county would have done the same)but now they want to give it to the counties around Dublin but not the rest....

Lets just cut off EAST LEINSTER (the PALE) maybe build a wall around it like what Trump is doing in the USA and have an East Leinster and a West Leinster ...

You couldn't and I mean couldn't make this stuff up .....I really thought it was a spoof ....

BigJohn.6_8 (Galway) - Posts: 704 - 03/08/2016 15:47:53    1894868

Link

Why are Wicklow and Louth worth funding like this but not Wexford or Carlow? What's the rationale? This stinks.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2550 - 03/08/2016 16:10:05    1894888

Link

Replying To Damothedub:  "Agreed ,
you will have to remind me how our minors fared this year in football , oh yes spanked by Meath , and last year ???
Under 16s on Saturday beaten in the Gerry O Reilly yet again by Cavan
amazing the so called juggernaut has achieved very little since its golden generation went into the adult ranks
Amazing how an article about other counties getting preferential treatment becomes a vehicle for the auld anti Dublin die hearts to have a pop.
Leinster should support counties , some fans don't know the meaning of the word support ."
How are people being anti-Dublin? Most of the posts here are having a cut off the GAA/Leinster Council for the funding anomaly.

Stop being so sensitive and paranoid over something that's not happening.

buttybrennan (Cork) - Posts: 58 - 03/08/2016 16:10:26    1894889

Link

Replying To ziggy32001:  "That is what I thought alright..

That should help all counties I would have thought!"
Help all counties? You mean just the four counties? And do Kildare really need it? Afterall, they have been very successful at underage level over the last 5-6 years, much more so than Dublin. The project just does not make sense at all. You would have to wonder about the ethos of the GAA.

Independent12 (Carlow) - Posts: 20 - 03/08/2016 16:15:41    1894897

Link

When the funding was discussed on here a few months ago some people's opinion seemed to be that funding would be available for anyone who came up with sensible/viable development or training plans. Has that changed now or have these counties put forward ideas that we can hear about?

Greenfield (Meath) - Posts: 522 - 03/08/2016 16:38:35    1894922

Link

This is going to be unpopular but I think it makes sense.

We've limited resources, you have to put them to use in the best way.

Outside of Dublin, these 4 counties are the next highest populated, most densely populated, fastest growing counties. The GAA is making a plan for its future to get the most people involved in the game. This isn't going to be achieved by pouring money into Carlow or Longford.

Population wise Wexford is up there with those 4 counties, so they've probably got the most cause for complaint.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 03/08/2016 16:46:38    1894928

Link

Replying To Whammo86:  "This is going to be unpopular but I think it makes sense.

We've limited resources, you have to put them to use in the best way.

Outside of Dublin, these 4 counties are the next highest populated, most densely populated, fastest growing counties. The GAA is making a plan for its future to get the most people involved in the game. This isn't going to be achieved by pouring money into Carlow or Longford.

Population wise Wexford is up there with those 4 counties, so they've probably got the most cause for complaint."
The logic of what you are saying is that the GAA should be allowed die in the likes of Leitrim, Longford and Carlow.

How would it go down in Antrim if the the Ulster Council decided it was going to fund development only Donegal, Tyrone and Cavan?

Independent12 (Carlow) - Posts: 20 - 03/08/2016 16:56:40    1894934

Link

I can understand the frustration of people in Wexford and Carlow at the favouritism shown towards others, I was similarly disappointed when Westmeath, Laois, Offaly, Antrim got money for developing hurling and we got nothing a few years back.

John Horan talks about not having their heads in the sand, well if he thinks giving €125k p.a for a few years is gonna make them counties competitive with the Blue Juggernaut then he clearly has his head in the sand as that is small beans compared to the money Dublin are receiving (€16.5 MILLION since 2005.) Which doesn't take into the the enormous sponsorships they accrue

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 03/08/2016 17:01:40    1894938

Link

Replying To Whammo86:  "This is going to be unpopular but I think it makes sense.

We've limited resources, you have to put them to use in the best way.

Outside of Dublin, these 4 counties are the next highest populated, most densely populated, fastest growing counties. The GAA is making a plan for its future to get the most people involved in the game. This isn't going to be achieved by pouring money into Carlow or Longford.

Population wise Wexford is up there with those 4 counties, so they've probably got the most cause for complaint."
I don't agree with that at all. You seem to be advocating the widening of the gap. I can understand you're argument but for me the smaller counties should get a slice of the pie too.

What the hell is it with the Leinster council? First you have the Nolan park fiasco this summer and now this crap? Are they buck stupid or is someone making a killing somewhere out of this?

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 03/08/2016 17:05:54    1894940

Link

Replying To Independent12:  "The logic of what you are saying is that the GAA should be allowed die in the likes of Leitrim, Longford and Carlow.

How would it go down in Antrim if the the Ulster Council decided it was going to fund development only Donegal, Tyrone and Cavan?"
I don't want it to die in Carlow.

Having said that i'd rather money being made available so that it can have a proper impact rather than being spread too thin for the sake of fairness and having very little impact anywhere.

As for Antrim if we weren't given another cent by HQ we could hardly complain too much. We've made an utter shambles of our two most recent capital projects. We've a centre of excellence that can't be used as it doesn't have suitable road access. Then there's also the Casement park debacle.

As a N Antrim man we are going to see a similar situation where Belfast is set to be given an injection of cash for development with the country clubs not going to be benefitting. To be honest I can't really argue too much. Belfast is where there is greatest room for growth.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 03/08/2016 17:16:31    1894948

Link

Replying To gotmilk:  "I don't agree with that at all. You seem to be advocating the widening of the gap. I can understand you're argument but for me the smaller counties should get a slice of the pie too.

What the hell is it with the Leinster council? First you have the Nolan park fiasco this summer and now this crap? Are they buck stupid or is someone making a killing somewhere out of this?"
I'd rather money be used effectively rather than being wasted for the sake of fairness.

I'd rather we invest to get as many young people playing GAA over other sports as we possibly can.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 03/08/2016 17:20:43    1894949

Link

Replying To gotmilk:  "I don't agree with that at all. You seem to be advocating the widening of the gap. I can understand you're argument but for me the smaller counties should get a slice of the pie too.

What the hell is it with the Leinster council? First you have the Nolan park fiasco this summer and now this crap? Are they buck stupid or is someone making a killing somewhere out of this?"
What the hell is it with the Leinster Council? Money!!

Independent12 (Carlow) - Posts: 20 - 03/08/2016 17:25:13    1894952

Link

Look these counties have been left behind in regards funding for 10 years, now its not dubs fault, if Meath refused this money id go bananas, however I feel the other Leinster counties should get similar money, the funding of dubs has been a huge success, perhaps too much so regarding the gap that has happened, . Lets get a equal playing field for all counties when it comes to funding, that's all anyone wants. Plus 1.25k per annum is not going to solve the problem, id rather see Leinster council appoint 6/7 full time coaches (paid for by Leinster council) in each county, money better spent and a chance of it actually working, just cause throwing money at one county worked doesn't mean it will work all the time, also id say its upto each individual county to spend it how they see fit, a bad idea in my opinion.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 03/08/2016 17:30:48    1894957

Link

tearintom (Wexford) -

So the decision of the GAA in Leinster is....

Look after Dublin first and foremost, then next in line for being looked after is Louth, Wicklow, Kildare and Meath.

Wexford, Carlow, Longford, Laois, Westmeath and Offaly can go to rot!


So is Kilkenny no longer in Leinster?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2474 - 03/08/2016 17:40:29    1894959

Link

Replying To royaldunne:  "Look these counties have been left behind in regards funding for 10 years, now its not dubs fault, if Meath refused this money id go bananas, however I feel the other Leinster counties should get similar money, the funding of dubs has been a huge success, perhaps too much so regarding the gap that has happened, . Lets get a equal playing field for all counties when it comes to funding, that's all anyone wants. Plus 1.25k per annum is not going to solve the problem, id rather see Leinster council appoint 6/7 full time coaches (paid for by Leinster council) in each county, money better spent and a chance of it actually working, just cause throwing money at one county worked doesn't mean it will work all the time, also id say its upto each individual county to spend it how they see fit, a bad idea in my opinion."
Lovely sentiments but that's not how it has worked for the past decade and from the GAA's statement it isn't how it will work for the next decade

realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 03/08/2016 17:47:23    1894964

Link

Replying To Independent12:  "Help all counties? You mean just the four counties? And do Kildare really need it? Afterall, they have been very successful at underage level over the last 5-6 years, much more so than Dublin. The project just does not make sense at all. You would have to wonder about the ethos of the GAA."
Sorry I meant THEY should help all counties in Leinster.I agree with the OP

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 03/08/2016 17:58:52    1894969

Link

The question is are they putting enough money in? How much is 125,000 a year in each of those counties really worth?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 03/08/2016 18:02:15    1894970

Link