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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Again I'm obviously bias but the Dublin team from 91 to 95 has to get a mention

91- really unlucky to lose to a great Meath team in a four game saga

92- got to the all Ireland final and beaten by a great Donegal team on the day

93- beaten by a great Derry team in a classic by one point

94- made another final only to lose to a great Down team by a missed peno near the end

95- made it another final and fell over the line in the end after a long time on the read with a lot of heartbreak

I think that team deserves a mention"
They had some guts that team, just lacked the quality up front of our nearest rivals across that time

Had everything else. It was an excellent Dubs team but just didn't have enough pace and skill up front, if only that team had a B Brogan or Paddy Andrews

But along comes a certain Mr Jason Sherlock to inject the pace and flair that was required

He rejuvenated the whole team who by that time had gone through some titanic battles all the way back to 1991

It was took some amount of guts and endeavour to win that eventually win that All Ireland

That team undoubtedly deserves a mention!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 27/07/2016 10:36:58    1890836

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Id agree with Meath from 96-01. If I'm been honest they were better footballers Than the 87 - 93 team in nearly every position (apart from the obvious Martin O'Connell who was on both and team of millennium) , Sean did a interview after he retired and said that in a way looking back , that meath team would have won more if mayo had won in 96, now i still think that is the single greatest achievement to bring a bunch of kids that very few gave any hope to , to actually go all the way and win It out , but I do think success came too soon and the hunger weaned a little bit. Still though 2 all Irelands, but I feel it could have been more."
I would have said the opposite. I thought the Meath team 1986-1991 was overall was a bit stronger (both physically and in terms of footballing quality) than 1996-2001 Meath team (probably better to call this an era due to turn over of players in this time frame). I thought the weaker members of the 1996-2001 teams would not have being very close to getting on the 1986-1991 team. Martin O'Connell played in 96 AI win as a corner back but his peak was when playing at wing back in the 1986-1991 timeframe.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1360 - 27/07/2016 10:41:14    1890837

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Cork '87 to '90 were unreal. Hardy men, great footballers.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 27/07/2016 10:54:35    1890848

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I though the Meath team of 1986-91 were far better than the 1996-01 team. They always had a decent Dublin team to overcome and Cork emerged as a tough competitiver outside Leinster. 5 Leinster titles, 2 All-Irelands and 2 National Leagues were well deserved. O'Rourke, Stafford and Flynn was a very impressive full forward line.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 27/07/2016 11:42:21    1890879

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94/95 team....

John O'Leary

Mick Deegan
Paddy Moran
Ciaran Walshe

Eamon Heery
Keith Barr
Paul Curran

Brian Stynes
Paul Bealin

Paul Clarke
Jim Gavin
Dessie

Charlie
Mick Galvin
Jayo

Keith Galvin, Enda Sheehy, Pat Gilroy, Johnny Barr, Vinny Murphy etc
Heery missed 95 tragically, was back in 96. Desperate!
96 Saw the emergence of Wheelo, Christie, Deasey.....the re-emergence of big Joe!!
95 saw players like Foran, Rock, Hargan miss out having retired in previous years

the Dubs team of 89-96 may never be regarded as the best Dublin teams of all time, but I tell you what, they are by a MILE my favourite Dubs teams/era. Balls and heart, balls and heart.

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 27/07/2016 11:45:18    1890882

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "94/95 team....

John O'Leary

Mick Deegan
Paddy Moran
Ciaran Walshe

Eamon Heery
Keith Barr
Paul Curran

Brian Stynes
Paul Bealin

Paul Clarke
Jim Gavin
Dessie

Charlie
Mick Galvin
Jayo

Keith Galvin, Enda Sheehy, Pat Gilroy, Johnny Barr, Vinny Murphy etc
Heery missed 95 tragically, was back in 96. Desperate!
96 Saw the emergence of Wheelo, Christie, Deasey.....the re-emergence of big Joe!!
95 saw players like Foran, Rock, Hargan miss out having retired in previous years

the Dubs team of 89-96 may never be regarded as the best Dublin teams of all time, but I tell you what, they are by a MILE my favourite Dubs teams/era. Balls and heart, balls and heart."
The Dublin half back line were great at attacking back then.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1360 - 27/07/2016 12:33:40    1890897

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "94/95 team....

John O'Leary

Mick Deegan
Paddy Moran
Ciaran Walshe

Eamon Heery
Keith Barr
Paul Curran

Brian Stynes
Paul Bealin

Paul Clarke
Jim Gavin
Dessie

Charlie
Mick Galvin
Jayo

Keith Galvin, Enda Sheehy, Pat Gilroy, Johnny Barr, Vinny Murphy etc
Heery missed 95 tragically, was back in 96. Desperate!
96 Saw the emergence of Wheelo, Christie, Deasey.....the re-emergence of big Joe!!
95 saw players like Foran, Rock, Hargan miss out having retired in previous years

the Dubs team of 89-96 may never be regarded as the best Dublin teams of all time, but I tell you what, they are by a MILE my favourite Dubs teams/era. Balls and heart, balls and heart."
They were a great side though.That half back line was brilliant! Great battles with Meath in which Dublin came out on top in those years.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 27/07/2016 12:44:30    1890902

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "The Dublin half back line were great at attacking back then."
Curran - Barr - Heery
Curran 0 Barr - Deegan

either or.....pure class
I'd argue as good a half back line as ever played football. Paul Curran was as good a wing back as ever played football

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 27/07/2016 12:55:48    1890914

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I think that this debate really depends on who people rate as the top sides. In my opinion, Tyrone, Kerry and Armagh in the 00s were, collectively, better than any trio that you'd like to choose from the early or late 90s.

For me, in the 1987-2010 bracket, I'd go for:

1. Tyrone: 03-05 (this was Tyrone's real period of dominance, not 05-08).
2. Kerry: 04-07
3. Meath: 87-88
4. Armagh: 02-05
5. Galway: 98-01
6. Down: 91-94
7. Cork: 89-90
8. Meath: 96-99
9. Derry: 92-95
10. Dublin: 91-95
11. Donegal: 90-93
12. Dublin: 05-10

I'm pretty happy with my top 4, but there was very, very little between numbers 5-12, and I'd be probably re-order those on a different day.

Also, in case the Dubs feel like I'm under-rating them, if the era was 1970-2016, you'd have 2 sides in my top 5!

Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 27/07/2016 14:00:13    1890948

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Ah the late 1990s a time I look back and think we'll of but hate it. The Mayo team of that era to quote father dougal 'so near yet so far away'! We could have had two of three all Ireland's won in the last twenty years granted the first win hadn't been celebrated too long. And no bottlers tag to boot!

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 27/07/2016 15:03:29    1890994

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Kerry 2004-2009, greatest team of the past 25 years without a shadow of a doubt.

Contested 6 All Ireland finals in a row, won 4 including back to back titles.

No team came close to such consistency at the highest level during those years and consistency at such a level is the true measure of greatness - any decent county can win the odd title here and there.

No let's see the usual Kerry bregrudgers argue against that!"
Very true in terms of winning and consistency Kerry were the team of the era.

But you know who your daddies were ehhhh!!

Some all time great on that Kerry team with an incomplete resume, the majority of which have admitted as much themselves in fairness to them.

Great sportsmen and women think about the defeats more than they think about the victories

Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 27/07/2016 15:34:58    1891019

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Again I'm obviously bias but the Dublin team from 91 to 95 has to get a mention

91- really unlucky to lose to a great Meath team in a four game saga

92- got to the all Ireland final and beaten by a great Donegal team on the day

93- beaten by a great Derry team in a classic by one point

94- made another final only to lose to a great Down team by a missed peno near the end

95- made it another final and fell over the line in the end after a long time on the read with a lot of heartbreak

I think that team deserves a mention"
i dont think all those teams u mentioned were great..good sides but we really should have won more

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 27/07/2016 15:41:47    1891024

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In my opinion,
1.Tyrone from 03 to 08 because they beat Kerry twice in finals.
2.Kerry 04 to 09.Fantastic team, would be my no.1 if they had managed to beat Tyrone in a final.
3.Galway 98 to 01.Because of the way they played and their attitude.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 28/07/2016 11:40:12    1891424

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Its harder to make out this list than I thought it would be. In my opinion the top 4 teams stand out. I got hard to decide whether Cork or Tyrone should be at No. 3, because Cork were very consistent but on their day (which was usually in the biggest games) Tyrone were a better team than that Cork team but at the same time more likely to lose against lesser teams and get themselves knocked out early.
The further down the list you go the harder it is to pick out order of teams (for me the order of teams between 5 and 8 could have been put in any order).

1. Kerry: 04-09: their consistency levels of being there or there about's every year was amazing.
2. Meath: 86-91: good players all over that team, great full forward line, tough, hard to beat.
3. Tyrone: 03-08: Peter Canavan an all-time great, this team delivered big performances in big games.
4. Cork: 87-93: 4 successive finals (87 to 90), great consistency.
5. Kerry: 97-02 (possibly could have merged this team with 04-09 team, usually close to the top)
6. Meath: 96-01 (2 AI's, 1 other final)
7. Galway: 98-01 (2 AI's, 1 other final)
8. Down: 91-94 (2 AI's)
9. Dublin: 91-95 (1 AI, 2 other final's)
10. Armagh: 02-05 (1 AI, 1 other final)

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1360 - 28/07/2016 13:30:24    1891495

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i remember that wexford team 1915-1918,they were some team.will never forget them.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 29/07/2016 14:29:06    1891995

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Kildare 97 to 2000 deserves a mention too two leinsters not to be sneezed at

Kingoreilly (Kildare) - Posts: 77 - 30/07/2016 09:20:01    1892199

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Replying To Jackos_Wacko:  "1. Tyrone from 03 to 08 shades it for me.

2. Kerry 00s. Played in 8 All Irelands including 6 in a row and won 5 and done the back to back just a pity we never beat Tyrone.

3. Meath 87 to 91. Played in 4 All Irelands in 5 years and won 2 in a row.

4. Meath 96 to 01. Played in 3 and won 2 especially in 96 with a bunch of kids reminded me of 75 with Kerry. Seriously under achieved and non of todays Meath team would get near either starting 15.

5. Down 91 to 94. Played some brilliant football.

5. Galway. 98 to 01 Same as Down.

6. Armagh. 00s. Should of had another All Ireland or 2 but Kerry and Tyrone dominated the 00s.

And I couldn't be bothered doing anymore."
In friendly fire with my fellow county man I'd have to disagree with the order of 1 and 2. Tyrone full credit for semi-final win in 03 and raising entencity level. It's difficult to retain All-Irelands. 05 saw Kerry lose out in the final attempting back to back titles. 08 saw Kerry lose out in the final attempting 3-in-a-row. Why didn't Tyrone make the finals of 04, 06 and 09? It would have been interesting to see Kerry take on Tyrone in those years.

After the 03 loss, noone would have predicted Kerry making the next 6 finals winning 4 of them.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7876 - 30/07/2016 09:59:30    1892209

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Replying To perfect10:  "i remember that wexford team 1915-1918,they were some team.will never forget them."
Wow what age are ye

Kingoreilly (Kildare) - Posts: 77 - 30/07/2016 10:04:58    1892212

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What ever about the best teams of this era the worst team to win the all Ireland has to be the cork team of 2010, soft enough all Ireland and didn't come anywhere close since.

Kingoreilly (Kildare) - Posts: 77 - 07/08/2016 11:26:35    1897224

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This thread should have been limited to '87 to '09.

This current decade '10 to the current '16 championship has not been great.

Kerry, Galway, Meath, Mayo, Tyrone and Cork all have responsibilities to take for the current poor decade.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7876 - 07/08/2016 11:53:04    1897247

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