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Kerry coming in under the radar?

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So statements like "Ye've been playing a weakened Kerry side since after '09" isn't disrespectful to the teams that have simply beaten Kerry because they were a better team?

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 12/08/2016 16:35:02    1900360

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Replying To dstuction:  "would love if Hoganstand added an ignore user button. I really don't know if I can handle anymore BS from you.
Its like you feel entitled to win every year. sometimes teams are just better than you. Don't be so bitter about it and enjoy the wins you do get."
Who is saying that the best teams have not won on the day? Sure look it, when the championship is over, we go back to our county and club championships, and get on with the game. There's always another game. There's always another championship.

Word has it there were people on here heckling my fellow county people after last year's All-Ireland. That's bad form. It's just a reflection of some people and the people they are.

Any Dubs I have spoken to wouldn't be agreeing with any of your assertions. You are putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 500.

Now do enjoy your county's club championships and winter well! ;)

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7853 - 12/08/2016 17:11:38    1900370

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Replying To dstuction:  "would love if Hoganstand added an ignore user button. I really don't know if I can handle anymore BS from you.
Its like you feel entitled to win every year. sometimes teams are just better than you. Don't be so bitter about it and enjoy the wins you do get."
I'd have to agree with you there alright.
It's more a reflection of their level when you get that aul stuff. Trying to make false claims they cannot back up is just more of it.
Ah,you'll get them everywhere I suppose.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 12/08/2016 21:12:53    1900433

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Replying To dstuction:  "would love if Hoganstand added an ignore user button. I really don't know if I can handle anymore BS from you.
Its like you feel entitled to win every year. sometimes teams are just better than you. Don't be so bitter about it and enjoy the wins you do get."
Agreed, it's more a case of enduring this sort than anything else.Plenty if decent posters on here too .

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 12/08/2016 21:34:03    1900439

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Kerry will win semis. They r in a good place to beat dublin this year

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 13/08/2016 17:03:17    1900601

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Kerry will win semis. They r in a good place to beat dublin this year"
Dublin are a better team than Kerry but of course anything can happen in a one off match and as history has shown, only a fool would ever underestimate Kerry.I think though the quarter Final against Donegal will stand to the Dubs.Having the two players sent off shows up a discipline issue which they can address and being the two players down meant Dublin had to dig deep which can only benefit them.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2166 - 13/08/2016 17:44:32    1900613

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "I'd have to agree with you there alright.
It's more a reflection of their level when you get that aul stuff. Trying to make false claims they cannot back up is just more of it.
Ah,you'll get them everywhere I suppose."
I know what you mean dubh linn
There was a guy on here from Wexford 2 weeks ago after we beat Clare saying Kerry were the most cynical team he'd ever seen , when I asked him could he prove we were more cynical then the other top teams and had he stats to back it up , he couldn't.
Then when Dublin and Donegal and Tyrone and mayo gave us too seriously cynical games last Saturday he didn't come back on to withdraw is statement or apologise to us or to show his outrage at the other 4 teams.
It would crack up :-)

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 13/08/2016 18:00:26    1900615

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Kerry will win semis. They r in a good place to beat dublin this year"
Of course they can win but I'm interested to know why you believe they are in a good place. Based on what?

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 13/08/2016 20:49:14    1900663

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Replying To Jackeen:  "Of course they can win but I'm interested to know why you believe they are in a good place. Based on what?"
1. Nothing to lose
2. Unburdened by expectations (relatively)
3. Determined to live down the 'no show' last September
4. Returning players boosting confidence (ie the Gooch is a talisman)
5. Eager to capitalise on the weaknesses of the incumbents

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 14/08/2016 00:47:36    1900720

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There is no way Kerry are coming in under any radar. They will be hard to beat and would love nothing better than a win against this Dublin side.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 14/08/2016 09:06:32    1900732

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Replying To plike:  "1. Nothing to lose
2. Unburdened by expectations (relatively)
3. Determined to live down the 'no show' last September
4. Returning players boosting confidence (ie the Gooch is a talisman)
5. Eager to capitalise on the weaknesses of the incumbents"
1-Kerry have everything to loose as they wont want to suffer another beating from Dublin - it would be four in a row in the championship.
2-- now every year Kerry are more or less fav to win Sam and indeed the supporters or most of them expect to win Sam. And from some of them here in London they are confident of winning in two weeks time
3- Not alone have they to deal with the no show in September what about the Div one final. Also what about the display the Kerry forwards gave last September?? Probably one of the worst displays given by a Kerry forward line ever in an All Ireland final. Were they so bad on the day( a one off like) or have the Dublin backs got their measure.
4- will Cooper be really match fit , are all the knocks taking their toll ? Where are all the young under age Kerry forwards gone , has the manager been too loyal to the older players.
5-- A lot has been said about Dublin's full back line -- yet it has not yet caved in B b was held scoreless against Donegal , that don't happen often D Connolly P Flynn and K MC Menamin in my book would be a class above the Kerry forwards.
Kerry can win but I can't see it I think they are too old , Dublin will run the feet off them
A lot of people maybe can't see that but to me Dublin will do TWO in a row That must now be the aim of J Galvin and the team.
I think the Donegal game was just what Dublin needed and I can see them winning by anything up to 10 points plus

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 14/08/2016 09:08:40    1900733

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Replying To plike:  "1. Nothing to lose
2. Unburdened by expectations (relatively)
3. Determined to live down the 'no show' last September
4. Returning players boosting confidence (ie the Gooch is a talisman)
5. Eager to capitalise on the weaknesses of the incumbents"
1. They've everything to lose....just like Dublin.
2. Isn't it Sam or bust for Kerry every year?
3. Fair enough. What about the league final...was that not a good opportunity to do so?
4. Love Cooper but i just dont think he's the player he was. These injuries have taken their toll on him and also the lack of game time.
5. Again i refer you to the league final.

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 14/08/2016 11:08:55    1900760

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Replying To Jackeen:  "Of course they can win but I'm interested to know why you believe they are in a good place. Based on what?"
They have been able to prepare undistracted all summer for the fixture v Dublin. That in my estimation is the only way any team will win against the dubs.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 14/08/2016 11:15:52    1900765

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Replying To SamOnErrigal:  "1-Kerry have everything to loose as they wont want to suffer another beating from Dublin - it would be four in a row in the championship.
2-- now every year Kerry are more or less fav to win Sam and indeed the supporters or most of them expect to win Sam. And from some of them here in London they are confident of winning in two weeks time
3- Not alone have they to deal with the no show in September what about the Div one final. Also what about the display the Kerry forwards gave last September?? Probably one of the worst displays given by a Kerry forward line ever in an All Ireland final. Were they so bad on the day( a one off like) or have the Dublin backs got their measure.
4- will Cooper be really match fit , are all the knocks taking their toll ? Where are all the young under age Kerry forwards gone , has the manager been too loyal to the older players.
5-- A lot has been said about Dublin's full back line -- yet it has not yet caved in B b was held scoreless against Donegal , that don't happen often D Connolly P Flynn and K MC Menamin in my book would be a class above the Kerry forwards.
Kerry can win but I can't see it I think they are too old , Dublin will run the feet off them
A lot of people maybe can't see that but to me Dublin will do TWO in a row That must now be the aim of J Galvin and the team.
I think the Donegal game was just what Dublin needed and I can see them winning by anything up to 10 points plus"
1 - If Kerry posters were on here stating definitively that we would beat Dublin because of history our detractors would be quick to point out our arrogance, however we are humble and realise what an amazing side we are facing in their Coliseum

2 - With respect to our many expats, they aren't going to be as well versed as to the state of the Kerry team and the respective players as those of us who see them for club and county. Not to mention our opponents. I have met very few in Kerry who think we have a realistic chance of winning, indeed quite a few fear a trimming. We know what the rest of Ireland thinks will happen.

3 - I think it's fair to say we didn't play our best in either of these games. That's not saying we would have won either game because in my view Dublin didn't play their best in either game as well which is terrifying prospect. All we can ask and hope for is we produce to the best of our ability, if that isn't enough to win, so be it.

4 - Quite a few of our top players were either missing or out (Moran, Murphy etc), unfortunately from what I hear that is still the case for the upcoming game. We just don't have waves of top players to be able to fill in for them. How the likes of Morley and O'Beaglaoich cope against the Blue Juggernaut nobody knows, we just have to hope for the best.

5 - Unfortunately there are absolutely no weak points in this Dublin team, we just got to perform to our best and hope they have an offday, otherwise it will be a long day

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 14/08/2016 12:14:28    1900780

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Replying To Donegalman:  "They have been able to prepare undistracted all summer for the fixture v Dublin. That in my estimation is the only way any team will win against the dubs."
Go away with your blarney talk. Are you planning a motion for congress through your club? Either put up or shut up. Enjoy your county championship and winter well! ;)

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7853 - 14/08/2016 12:47:24    1900785

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Replying To SamOnErrigal:  "1-Kerry have everything to loose as they wont want to suffer another beating from Dublin - it would be four in a row in the championship.
2-- now every year Kerry are more or less fav to win Sam and indeed the supporters or most of them expect to win Sam. And from some of them here in London they are confident of winning in two weeks time
3- Not alone have they to deal with the no show in September what about the Div one final. Also what about the display the Kerry forwards gave last September?? Probably one of the worst displays given by a Kerry forward line ever in an All Ireland final. Were they so bad on the day( a one off like) or have the Dublin backs got their measure.
4- will Cooper be really match fit , are all the knocks taking their toll ? Where are all the young under age Kerry forwards gone , has the manager been too loyal to the older players.
5-- A lot has been said about Dublin's full back line -- yet it has not yet caved in B b was held scoreless against Donegal , that don't happen often D Connolly P Flynn and K MC Menamin in my book would be a class above the Kerry forwards.
Kerry can win but I can't see it I think they are too old , Dublin will run the feet off them
A lot of people maybe can't see that but to me Dublin will do TWO in a row That must now be the aim of J Galvin and the team.
I think the Donegal game was just what Dublin needed and I can see them winning by anything up to 10 points plus"
You may be proven correct on the result but Flynn, Connolly and mcmenimin are a class above Kerry's forwards? That's very debatable, Geaney, Donaghue and Darren o Sullivan are all star forwards, as are Walsh and Murphy. Btw Kilkenny is more important to Dublin than any of that trio you mentioned.

The only players over thirty likely to start against Dublin are Donaghy and Walsh, if we lose it'll be because Dublin have better footballers and have a huge advantage in midfield in particular, it won't be because Kerry are old. To be honest your whole post is fairly nonsense.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 14/08/2016 12:48:11    1900786

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Replying To Jackeen:  "1. They've everything to lose....just like Dublin.
2. Isn't it Sam or bust for Kerry every year?
3. Fair enough. What about the league final...was that not a good opportunity to do so?
4. Love Cooper but i just dont think he's the player he was. These injuries have taken their toll on him and also the lack of game time.
5. Again i refer you to the league final."
The League Final? Pfff. Gwan with your horsebox; out with your horse; the race is nigh

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 569 - 14/08/2016 13:39:49    1900799

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Replying To Donegalman:  "They have been able to prepare undistracted all summer for the fixture v Dublin. That in my estimation is the only way any team will win against the dubs."
Ok fair enough. Very true. Lets hope the tough game against Donegal stood to us & we do enough to get back to the final!

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 14/08/2016 14:03:29    1900805

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Personally I think Kerry should be considered favourate given the flat track to this point and time to develop a game plan, so not really under the radar.

However if they loose, I don't think even they or their fans know "where they are" if this is the only test they have this year it will be hard to know how they measure up in the overall scheme of things.

It will be a very good team that beats Dublin, Kerry may prove a very good team, but need to prove it.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 14/08/2016 17:13:30    1900843

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Kerry are always coming in under the radar, they come in over it as well, still won't win.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 14/08/2016 21:22:23    1900995

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