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It's not up to Dublin where that thing was built Dublin have invested in the Gym out that way But apart from that it's open to anyone... Just don't be playing the poor mouth in Kerry about games development funds when you're building a C.O.E worth €6million !! That's over half the total budget invested by the GAA into games development in the largest Urban area in the country over a 10 year period...!! Kerry have PLENTY OF MONEY to be investing in games development officers if they so wish Just trying to add some perspective into the argument... jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 25/07/2016 16:32:39 1889862 Link 0 |
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Says the fella from a county that had to 2 hurling counties every year to get to All Ireland football semi-finals
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 25/07/2016 16:38:46 1889865 Link 0 |
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One county getting more than every province was always a complete receipe for disaster in terms of competitiveness...if it had gone on for 5 years it may have been retrievable but it went on for around 10 years so its going to be very hard for anyone other county to rein in Dublin. realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 25/07/2016 16:41:45 1889868 Link 1 |
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But considering Dublin have a larger audience they will get the larger advertising deals. Not really fair if you ask me.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 25/07/2016 16:43:33 1889869 Link 0 |
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We had to FUNDRAISE for that, we don't have Universities with State of the Art Facilities just lying around spare, we did get €1m from the GAA for it so I suppose we have to back away quietly into a corner and not question anything the GAA do any more
KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 25/07/2016 16:50:52 1889879 Link 0 |
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Of course I'm not saying Dublin don't deserve funding but by this stage with all its sponsors and natural ability to self-generate money that injecting 52% of the GDA money into Dublin is causing more havoc elsewhere as other teams try to 'Keep up with the Jones' when in reality this is only a short-term fix and isn't sustainable as Dublin can always outspend and don't have to worry about developing their own stadium as that problem is already looked after for them. If people cant see these issues then there is nothing left to say.... KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 25/07/2016 16:58:24 1889884 Link 1 |
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You hit the nail on the head, there is nothing left to say on this issue. Both positions are intrangible. Dubs see things from a Dublin point of view and aren't really seeing the big picture that if there team is unbeatable then while it may be enjoyable in the short term it will lead to the rest of the country no longer caring; See the falling year on year attendance of the Leinster final. The best hope is that Kerry and maybe one other team can give Dublin a game year on year but why anyone watches the majority of games prior to August is a mystery to me. It's almost exclusively games between at least one team that is making up the numbers. I myself watched one game so far this year; the Ulster final. realman2 (Kildare) - Posts: 464 - 25/07/2016 17:15:46 1889893 Link 0 |
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It all sounds like a green and gold envy monster has arisen. Its ok lads, we'll be shit again in a few years. Nothing lasts forever. Great so see well sponsored, well funded, high achieving counties looking out for the wider GAA community. During the noughties the Kerry folk were thinking about the little boys and the Dublin beast? JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 25/07/2016 17:18:14 1889895 Link 0 |
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Oooh great comeback lad, you got me there.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/07/2016 17:27:07 1889902 Link 1 |
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I'm not blaming Dublin fans , players or County Board I am blaming the GAA 100% who have caused this situation by trying to milk the Dublin cash cow and have ended up losing huge money due to a massive decline in attendances as fans (including Dublin ones) aren't going to keep forking out good money for a declining 'product'. I mean counties are building these hugely expensive COE's to try and keep up, the Kerry one is costing €6m which I frankly think is ridiculous and we were very late to the party of building these monstrosities. If the GAA didn't pour petrol on the fire none of these yokes would be needed anywhere. As for increasing costs with IC training don't get me started. To pay for these the GAA has increased ticket prices for Provincial and Qualifier Games which is why you see loads of empty seats at games all round the country. KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 25/07/2016 17:48:59 1889915 Link 0 |
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And do the counties of Wexford, Wicklow, Kildare, Meath and Louth also not consist of large rural areas? Have you ever even been to one of these counties? Do you think Leinster is one huge urban sprawl like Tokyo or something??
extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 25/07/2016 18:44:24 1889948 Link 0 |
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Again when does it happen and how much does each county get?
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 25/07/2016 18:46:42 1889951 Link 0 |
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I didn't say it was but read the article and see what counties are mentioned, I probably should have specified the rural isolated Western seaboard being left behind
KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 25/07/2016 21:20:36 1890024 Link 0 |
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There's been a number of threads started here in recent times on the weakness of the Leinster championships (the latest I believe entitled "is leinster a dead-duck?", the consensus appearing to be it is). Since the weekend, another thread has asked "which is the strongest province?", with several posters (including yourself) declaring GAA in Munster to be in rude health. So why then, do you take issue with the GAA investing more in the weaker,underperforming counties, ie. eastern seaboard minus Dublin? Surely the GAA should be commended for recognising a problem in the association and declaring an initiative to tackle it? Or do you feel it's only the stronger performing counties in places like Munster that are deserving of investment? Also, you claim that the western seaboard is going to be left behind, mentioning Kerry, Mayo and Donegal. So let's examine how far behind they are? Mayo- 6 of the last 8 Connaught Championships Donegal- 3 Ulster,1 All-Ireland in 6 years Kerry- 10 Munster,5 All-Irelands in 15 years Meath,Wicklow, Kildare, Wexford, Louth - (Combined) 1 Leinster title in 15 years. As you can see from recent years, it is these eastern counties that are being left behind in the gaa, well behind the successes of the western seaboard. extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 25/07/2016 22:37:29 1890067 Link 1 |
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There's been a number of threads started here in recent times on the weakness of the Leinster championships (the latest I believe entitled "is leinster a dead-duck?", the consensus appearing to be it is). Since the weekend, another thread has asked "which is the strongest province?", with several posters (including yourself) declaring GAA in Munster to be in rude health. So why then, do you take issue with the GAA investing more in the weaker,underperforming counties, ie. eastern seaboard minus Dublin? Surely the GAA should be commended for recognising a problem in the association and declaring an initiative to tackle it? Or do you feel it's only the stronger performing counties in places like Munster that are deserving of investment? Also, you claim that the western seaboard is going to be left behind, mentioning Kerry, Mayo and Donegal. So let's examine how far behind they are? Mayo- 6 of the last 8 Connaught Championships Donegal- 3 Ulster,1 All-Ireland in 6 years Kerry- 10 Munster,5 All-Irelands in 15 years Meath,Wicklow, Kildare, Wexford, Louth - (Combined) 1 Leinster title in 15 years. As you can see from recent years, it is these eastern counties that are being left behind in the gaa, well behind the successes of the western seaboard. extranjero (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 26/07/2016 09:40:08 1890150 Link 1 |
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I want fairness and equality with regards to investment, I don't for one second believe Kerry deserve a penny more than Wexford and have never suggested that. Munster has done very well this year but it is not because of money and given all the bashing Kerry have taken for games outside their control it's fair to say Tipp + Clare haven't got the credit they deserve. The provincial titles you listed are a bit misleading, as Kerry or Mayo don't have to compete with a Juggernaut at all age grades and that is definitely a problem for the Wicklows and Wexfords as it is hard to encourage lads to play IC if they are getting stuffed at the age grades leading up to Senior. KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 26/07/2016 10:51:08 1890206 Link 0 |
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They are talking Eastern seaboard, not just Dublin. So my question still stands. Where should the GA put most of their money? Eastern or Western Seaboard? Either way the good thing is the Midlands get nothing :):):) witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 26/07/2016 10:52:09 1890207 Link 0 |
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The money should be evenly distributed not the vast majority of going to the East as the article indicates KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 26/07/2016 11:08:44 1890224 Link 0 |
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I'll assume that you read the article you posted - it is difficult to come to that conclusion based on what you've posted, but sure we'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Nowhere in the article does it mention the "vast majority" of funds going anywhere. It's a simple idea proposed - more people in an area - more money spent there on games development. That's pretty much it. The western seaboard, for a great number of reasons (most of which are far beyond the control of the GAA) has a population and population density much, much lower than that of the opposing side of the country. It makes sense that more funding goes east than west, if only to ensure fairer distribution. The article also expressly mentions that urban areas outside of the east coast need to be looked at too. Much ado about nothing it seems. Jaden (Dublin) - Posts: 139 - 26/07/2016 12:54:54 1890331 Link 1 |
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The article i still only talk though,are they serious or is it a token-gesture? ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 26/07/2016 13:15:10 1890359 Link 0 |