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Deep down you have a soft spot for the Mournemen, I just know it!
MourneArmy (Down) - Posts: 1787 - 25/07/2016 16:44:27 1889871 Link 0 |
Tyrone for me for consistency alone and re-inventing itself over time! Having the same manger helps. gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts: 990 - 25/07/2016 16:49:26 1889877 Link 0 |
Derry??! Ahead of Armagh and Donegal? are you serious? Derry have won two Ulsters in 30 years, the last being nearly 20 years ago.
mhaith_fear (Donegal) - Posts: 75 - 25/07/2016 17:22:08 1889899 Link 2 |
so you must have caught that Cork team real cold in the semi final - how much did ye win that one by again??
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 25/07/2016 17:41:13 1889910 Link 0 |
Tyrone 2003-2008 are the best Ulster team of the past 30 years. They faced outside the province a great side in Kerry 2000-2008 that produced two great All-Ireland Finals in 2005 and 2008. I would also put the Armagh team of 2000-2008 above the early 1990's teams. I dont think any team matched the performance of Tyrone in beating the three provincial winners of Dublin, Armagh and Kerry inside one calender month in 2005. Peter Canavan and Sean Cavanagh will always be high in the list of gaelic greats no matter what era. Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 25/07/2016 19:03:08 1889957 Link 0 |
Armagh won an All-Ireland and made the final in the following year, 02-03. Kerry are the only other county to do that in the last 25 championships, 04-05, 06-07, 07-08 and 14-15. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7853 - 25/07/2016 20:57:00 1890007 Link 0 |
and your point is.....they're not as good as Donegal, Down, Derry or Tyrone?
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 25/07/2016 21:11:43 1890018 Link 0 |
Tyrone would have to be considered as probably the best. Yet in 1991/92/93 we had good teams in Down /Derry /Donegal who after winning Ulster went on to collect Sam. Plus that Donegal team went to five Ulster finals in a row. SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 25/07/2016 21:34:59 1890034 Link 0 |
Agree Tyrone for me, Armagh and Kerry were serious outfits in the 00s
mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 25/07/2016 22:50:31 1890073 Link 0 |
1993 Ulster Championship in Newry: Down 0-9 Derry 3-11 Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 25/07/2016 23:54:59 1890084 Link 0 |
I'd say count who has won the most Ulster Championship matches in the last 30 Ulster Championships, that might give a statistical indication of who are the more consistent performers. GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 26/07/2016 01:51:04 1890096 Link 0 |
Ah, love to hear people referring to the great Mourne teams of the early '90s as the best and naturally, my bias would be for them too. Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1550 - 26/07/2016 01:54:16 1890099 Link 0 |
I think the Donegal team of the 00's were the most unluckiest group of players. That Donegal team were exceptional, they put some great performances together. In any other era they would have dominated Ulster and probably won an All Ireland. I think of the AL semi final 03, , QF 02 against the dubs and the Ulster semi 04. The fact they came at the same time as arguably the two.strongest Ulster teams in 50 years stopped them in there tracks. Who can forget the Armagh performance in the 04 Ulster final, poor Donegal were in the wrong place. When McGuinness came in he still had the necleus of the 00's team, and was able to add a few U21s and look what theu achieved. Sadly Donegal will not be mentioned for being successful during the 00s but they did hold there own and participated in a lot of big games.
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 26/07/2016 11:11:13 1890227 Link 0 |
The Armagh noughties team better than the Down early 90's team? Sober up!
MourneArmy (Down) - Posts: 1787 - 26/07/2016 11:55:12 1890274 Link 0 |
Gary... see below. Slow day in work. results from 87 to 16 championships as per Wickepedia. 240 games with results and 34 draws. himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 26/07/2016 11:58:04 1890277 Link 3 |
To be fair, they were.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 26/07/2016 12:09:54 1890286 Link 0 |
Its a tie between Down early 90s and Tyrone 00s as REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 26/07/2016 12:15:29 1890295 Link 0 |
Hardly a bold statement. That Armagh side won 7 Ulster titles between 1999-2008, and also an AI in 2002. They came very close again in 2003 & 2005, losing the latter in a semi-final that many regard as one of the greatest games ever played. They also won a National League in 2005. Down reached the Ulster final only twice between 86-95, though on both occasions they went on to win the AI. The failed to win a national league, and they didn't come close to matching Armagh's longevity, as their 2 Ulster titles spanned on 3 years. While Down were dazzling at their best, they seemed to go missing year after year, aside from 91 & 94. Now, I have a lot of time for that Down side, particularly their forward line. On their day, they were special. However, their defence was suspect, and that meant that, when things went wrong, they went badly wrong (e.g. the annihilation at home to Derry in 1993). Armagh had good forwards though perhaps not quite as great as Down's, but the Orchardmen had a much stronger defence and a more reliable midfield. Overall, there was little to choose between the individuals on those 2 sides, and both played in highly competitive eras for Ulster football. The missing 2nd AI aside, Armagh had more success than Down over a far longer period. They had more big performances on big days, and didn't have the ugly defeats like Down did to Derry in '93. While very much admiring both, I'd rate Armagh a superior and more successful team. Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 26/07/2016 12:32:07 1890311 Link 0 |
What a load of baloney saying winning an All Ireland via back door negates the difficulty - are you for real? The 2 backdoor wins Tyrone had to play 7 and 9 games respectively against Kerry, Dublin, Armagh et al - nice and all as that Down team were theres no way they could have won those All Irelands.
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 26/07/2016 12:32:20 1890312 Link 0 |
Wrong. Under the old system Tyrone would have been gone after an Ulster defeat. Having a second chance makes it much easier. The old system was do or die. I would have hated to have seen Derry again in 1994 after knocking them out. REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 26/07/2016 12:42:09 1890318 Link 0 |