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Move Dublin into the Munster Football Championship

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Replying To WildPundit: "Lads the hurling championship is just as bad. The top teams will always be there and look some years like 2016 teams will make the break through. If Derry and Roscommon had won yesterday people would still be whinging. Fact of the matter is Dublin Kerry Tyrone Donegal Mayo Monaghan have been the most consistent teams in the championship last few years and then the rest well anyone can beat the other really. Whether it b by fluke of the draw or other excuse Kerry would still b Munster Champions and Dublin Leinster Champions. Both have so much talent at their disposal and that's not their own fault. Doesn't happen by magic or overnight stuff. Years of hard work underage. Last year we were all crying out for miracles in the championship and we got two within hours of each other. Hard work does pay off. Tipp or Clare may not win their QF or a Munster Championship soon but they should give the rest of the country some food for thought that no matter what is thrown against you,systems ,loss of players ,venues etc anything is possible. I've nothing against Kerry or Dublin or Kilkenny in hurling for that matter these teams are great at what they do and the rest of us should shut up and get on with it. Everytime these counties win it's all about handy draws etc are the rest of the country that bad to say we have to blame our championship draws?even if tweaked same counties will b in the same latter stages year on year. Clare and Tipp proved a point yesterday and get just reward. DARE TO DREAM!!!!" Excellent post. Championship structures could be tweaked to improve the game/excitement levels/fairness but they are not the reason why Kerry, Dublin, Kilkenny are always at the business end of things Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4240 - 24/07/2016 14:08:52 1889121 Link
Why is Munster teams getting to a quater final such a success? Because most years it's made up of teams from Ulster and Leinster. Well done. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 24/07/2016 14:52:01 1889139 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "Why is Munster teams getting to a quater final such a success? Because most years it's made up of teams from Ulster and Leinster. Well done." Even if Westmeath win and Cork lose next week Munster will have 2 more quarterfinalists than Leinster have had over the last 8 seasons. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4240 - 24/07/2016 15:20:33 1889155 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "Why is Munster teams getting to a quater final such a success? Because most years it's made up of teams from Ulster and Leinster. Well done." Leinster has 12 counties and is football dominated while Munster has only 6 and is hurling dominated. When was the last time Leinster had 3 QF's? KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 24/07/2016 15:38:30 1889164 Link
Provincial football has little impact on the big guns ending up in CP in September. Dublin win 3 AIs doing what all teams have to do to be champs - beating the best teams in the country. They have had to beat Kerry, Cork, Mayo, Donegal and Tyrone to win these AIs. Not really sure what the point of moving them to another province would achieve. Leinster neither aids or hinders Dublin chances. poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 24/07/2016 15:58:22 1889177 Link
Replying To KYTitletown: "Leinster has 12 counties and is football dominated while Munster has only 6 and is hurling dominated. When was the last time Leinster had 3 QF's?" Really? Someone send Kilkenny that memo. Offaly, Dublin and Wexford as well. That's really dismissive of Leinster hurling mate. Leinster and Ulster regularly provide different quaterfinalists, I'd suspect this is the first time in many years anyone bar Kerry or Cork have gotten this far, fair play to them, but is is this the first time a Munster county has made a quater final beyond Cork or Kerry? TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 24/07/2016 17:37:51 1889244 Link
Another stupid move dublin post..yawn..look lads its never going to happen so quit your whingeing and get your own houses in order.. GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 24/07/2016 18:10:53 1889268 Link
I think the whole problem is the A and B side of the qualifiers Get rid of them leave it an open draw except for teams that have played each other before cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 24/07/2016 18:12:22 1889269 Link
Replying To cluichethar: "I think the whole problem is the A and B side of the qualifiers Get rid of them leave it an open draw except for teams that have played each other before" Mayo and Cork only wound up on the B side of the draw because they lost. Had they won it might have panned out as follows: 4A Cork v Derry Roscommon v Clare 4B Donegal v Tipperary Westmeath v Galway legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7873 - 24/07/2016 19:49:23 1889330 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Mayo and Cork only wound up on the B side of the draw because they lost. Had they won it might have panned out as follows: 4A Cork v Derry Roscommon v Clare 4B Donegal v Tipperary Westmeath v Galway" Open draw helps in that The A and B side looks like it's there so they can produce a fancy spreadsheet cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 25/07/2016 12:53:17 1889654 Link
Dont put anybody into any province. 6 divisions of 6 (last division could have london, new york, warwickshire, maybe kilkenny etc. all teams play home and away which is 10 games max played between may-july. winner of div 1 gets sam. top 2 get promotion, bottom 2 go down. no playoff or back door rubbish, all teams playing at a competitive level and games would be far more exciting. the may-july time would see that lads aren't playing college/county at the same time which is also a problem. this would leave more time for club games. some people might disagree with me or have their own idea but anything has to be better than whats their at the moment. superdub (Dublin) - Posts: 392 - 25/07/2016 16:18:25 1889843 Link
Still think provincials should be retained. Gives teams a justifiable goal to aim for. Tipperary and Clare would have to fancy their chance of winning Munster in the next few years. Sligo in Connaught etc. Look at Louth in Leinster just a few years ago. Problem is the League should be a shorter competition. 5 teams in each Division equals 4 games. No finals. I'd finish the pre season competitions. Have a proper open draw after provincials. crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 26/07/2016 02:06:30 1890102 Link
Replying To TheUsername: "Really? Someone send Kilkenny that memo. Offaly, Dublin and Wexford as well. That's really dismissive of Leinster hurling mate. Leinster and Ulster regularly provide different quaterfinalists, I'd suspect this is the first time in many years anyone bar Kerry or Cork have gotten this far, fair play to them, but is is this the first time a Munster county has made a quater final beyond Cork or Kerry?" No Limerick made the quarter Final against Kerry a few years ago, think it might have been 2011. 73forever (Limerick) - Posts: 89 - 26/07/2016 13:53:04 1890385 Link
Replying To KYTitletown: "Leinster has 12 counties and is football dominated while Munster has only 6 and is hurling dominated. When was the last time Leinster had 3 QF's?" 2012 dublin laois and kildare were quarter finalists hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 26/07/2016 14:51:42 1890435 Link
Would be a long way for Munster teams to travel for away games in Croke Park. Wouldnt mind a few seasons in Munster for the laugh. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 26/07/2016 15:10:38 1890448 Link
Dont think the dubs would have much trouble winning Munster. joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 27/07/2016 19:03:34 1891148 Link
Everyone knows that this thread was not set up as a serious suggestion. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4240 - 27/07/2016 19:42:02 1891168 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "Everyone knows that this thread was not set up as a serious suggestion." You would hope so alright. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 27/07/2016 20:39:15 1891195 Link
Replying To Killarney.87: "You would hope so alright." Judging by some of the comments you wouldn't be so sure. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4240 - 27/07/2016 21:24:10 1891225 Link

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