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Podge Collins dive

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Mayo folk I wonder will this be highlighted on tonight's Sunday Game???"
Somehow I doubt it. They'll all just be delighted at the great Clare underdog story

MayoDan (Mayo) - Posts: 420 - 24/07/2016 12:45:08    1889077

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Replying To Curlew66:  "Podge played a lose ball soccer style past our in rushing full back,
The defenders momentum caused some contact with Podge,
It wasnt a bad foul and the second yellow card was very harsh but it was not a blatant dive by Podge
Doesnt compare in any way to the incident in Castlebar... wont stop people clutching at straws though.
Thought the referee was inconsistent,
Red card to the Clare midfielder was followed by yellow for two of our players committing identical fouls."
No I think the red card for the clare midfielder was justified. it was more dangerous than the others. He forcefully struck the rossie player with his arm across the neck. the other 2 were just lazy arms around the neck , not forceful. however there was one ridiculous yellow given for a "high" tackle and player who was tackled was well on his down and by the time the hand got in to tackle him, his head was where his midrif should be. basically it was not in any way a high tackle. this is something that I see a lot and ref's should have more cop on to realise that you are not attempting to tackle the player's head. the fact that the player goes to ground and you end up making contact with his head should not be construed as a high tackle.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 24/07/2016 12:52:25    1889080

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Replying To Curlew66:  "Podge played a lose ball soccer style past our in rushing full back,
The defenders momentum caused some contact with Podge,
It wasnt a bad foul and the second yellow card was very harsh but it was not a blatant dive by Podge
Doesnt compare in any way to the incident in Castlebar... wont stop people clutching at straws though.
Thought the referee was inconsistent,
Red card to the Clare midfielder was followed by yellow for two of our players committing identical fouls."
Nothing could compare to the 'incident' in Castlebar in the eyes of a Roscommon lad. War, famine and pestilence could become rampant throughout the west of Ireland but would all pale into insignificance when compared to big Aidans alleged indiscretion.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 24/07/2016 15:59:45    1889180

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Replying To s goldrick:  "
Replying To Curlew66:  "Podge played a lose ball soccer style past our in rushing full back,
The defenders momentum caused some contact with Podge,
It wasnt a bad foul and the second yellow card was very harsh but it was not a blatant dive by Podge
Doesnt compare in any way to the incident in Castlebar... wont stop people clutching at straws though.
Thought the referee was inconsistent,
Red card to the Clare midfielder was followed by yellow for two of our players committing identical fouls."
No I think the red card for the clare midfielder was justified. it was more dangerous than the others. He forcefully struck the rossie player with his arm across the neck. the other 2 were just lazy arms around the neck , not forceful. however there was one ridiculous yellow given for a "high" tackle and player who was tackled was well on his down and by the time the hand got in to tackle him, his head was where his midrif should be. basically it was not in any way a high tackle. this is something that I see a lot and ref's should have more cop on to realise that you are not attempting to tackle the player's head. the fact that the player goes to ground and you end up making contact with his head should not be construed as a high tackle."
It's the difference in interpretation and application of the rules that I find most confusing. Yesterday Marty Duffy gave two separate frees to Tipp because a Derry player wasn't the required distance away when receiving the ball from a free. Now Marty was 100% correct in his interpretation but it was the first time this year I have seen the rule implemented fully. Marty was also on the ball with steps unlike a lot of referees who let five and six steps go without giving a free. In the Roscommon match every second tackle was followed by a card of some sort, tackles which on another day with another referee may have just been given as fouls. Joe McQuillan got a lot of abuse for not giving a yellow card to Aidan O Shea for a pull back against a Fermanagh lad but in fairness to Joe he tended to let a lot of fouls go that day without producing a card. One foul on Keith Higgins, where he was swung by the jersey and thrown to the ground, was a definite black card but was let go also. I think that management these days pay more attention to individual referees interpretation of the rules than the rules themselves.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 24/07/2016 16:33:22    1889197

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Donie Smith got a yellow card for diving I Connacht final replay which may have been deserved but it cost him as he got 2nd yellow soon after. Its the inconsistency that needs to be addressed. It seems if a topic is under the microscope at the time, as diving was due to O Shea incident, then refs are much quicker to act to be seen to be doing something about it

Douglas_Hyde (Roscommon) - Posts: 90 - 25/07/2016 09:42:16    1889521

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TSG analysis showed that O'Connor applied pressure on the ball and his tackle was milder than other tackles only getting yellow cards.
Hope that Clare's appeal against the red card is successful.
They also showed contact made with Podge Collins for the second yellow card. A harsh yellow but never a dive , totally unrelated to the Castlebar incident.

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 507 - 25/07/2016 13:57:30    1889708

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Replying To Curlew66:  "TSG analysis showed that O'Connor applied pressure on the ball and his tackle was milder than other tackles only getting yellow cards.
Hope that Clare's appeal against the red card is successful.
They also showed contact made with Podge Collins for the second yellow card. A harsh yellow but never a dive , totally unrelated to the Castlebar incident."
curlew what about the inclident where the 15 roscommon lads failed to show up in galway, surely that would be worth commenting on.

saddam (Mayo) - Posts: 414 - 25/07/2016 14:20:56    1889737

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I thought Collins dived, went down pretending he'd been slapped in the face, I'm fed up of this crap creeping into the GAA, I'd say the same if it was one of our players, play the game like men or go and play soccer with the girls.

TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 25/07/2016 14:21:58    1889739

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Replying To Curlew66:  "TSG analysis showed that O'Connor applied pressure on the ball and his tackle was milder than other tackles only getting yellow cards.
Hope that Clare's appeal against the red card is successful.
They also showed contact made with Podge Collins for the second yellow card. A harsh yellow but never a dive , totally unrelated to the Castlebar incident."
Podge made the contact himself with his arm and threw himself to the ground

manfromdelmonte (UK) - Posts: 541 - 25/07/2016 14:29:05    1889746

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Replying To saddam:  "
Replying To Curlew66:  "TSG analysis showed that O'Connor applied pressure on the ball and his tackle was milder than other tackles only getting yellow cards.
Hope that Clare's appeal against the red card is successful.
They also showed contact made with Podge Collins for the second yellow card. A harsh yellow but never a dive , totally unrelated to the Castlebar incident."
curlew what about the inclident where the 15 roscommon lads failed to show up in galway, surely that would be worth commenting on."
It would be worth commenting on but not relevant to this thread which is entitled 'Podge Collins dive' .. its obviously being used here to defend and present AOS in a more angelic light.
I was very close to both red card incidents on Saturday and felt O'Connor was hard done by as proved last night on TSG.
Hope he is allowed to play in Croke Park on Sunday.

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 507 - 25/07/2016 16:10:16    1889834

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So not only did AOS dive but he spoiled it for everyone else? So some good has come of it.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 25/07/2016 16:30:21    1889861

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AOS didnt dive. He said that he didnt dive, so he didnt dive.

Mayo Fanbook 101 - Rule 28 "AOS can do no wrong, and we must believe everything he says"

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 25/07/2016 17:21:58    1889898

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Replying To JayP:  "AOS didnt dive. He said that he didnt dive, so he didnt dive.

Mayo Fanbook 101 - Rule 28 "AOS can do no wrong, and we must believe everything he says""
Our Aidan for President!

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 25/07/2016 21:14:22    1890021

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