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Tyrone at 4/1 Donegal 28/1 is madness in my view. Donegal probably should have bet us ..we literally scrapped by the barrel against Cavan and Donegal.,,Donegal have a bad draw (Cork,maybe Dublin,Kerry and us/Mayo/ in the final but them odds are madness)but.. We are no better than Donegal except for Harte's great outfield play and a bit of luck in the extra 6...anyone that discredits Donegal over us at the minute are just mad in my view ,although I'd love to see Cork hammer them out the door but it probably won't happen Mayo might and probably will beat us in a QF if I'm being truthful. Their forwards are better than our own at the minute and are one team that can deal with our defence if history is anything to go by GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 21/07/2016 02:20:30 1887375 Link
Unbeaten. Toppled their biggest rival. Big players in form. They are most definitely in the shake up, probably on a par with Kerry at present. As for your attempts to big up the mayos forwards - the two main ones are completely out of form and they are were a much maligned group with those lads playing well. TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 21/07/2016 09:45:21 1887409 Link
Tyrone have got to be contenders. They are superior to all the sides in their half of the draw, Mayo or Galway could give them tough games but they would be favourites against either. Beating Dublin would be tough but they have to have a bad day at the office some time this year. As for Donegal, maybe the odds are a bit over the top but what is the likelihood of Donegal beating Cork, Dublin and Kerry to reach the All-Ireland final? It doesn't seem likely to even the most diehard Donegal fan. Even if Rory tweaked his tactics and we were a bit more positive, we would surely run out of steam. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1878 - 21/07/2016 10:48:15 1887455 Link
Replying To GameOfTyrones: "Tyrone at 4/1 Donegal 28/1 is madness in my view. Donegal probably should have bet us ..we literally scrapped by the barrel against Cavan and Donegal.,,Donegal have a bad draw (Cork,maybe Dublin,Kerry and us/Mayo/ in the final but them odds are madness)but.. We are no better than Donegal except for Harte's great outfield play and a bit of luck in the extra 6...anyone that discredits Donegal over us at the minute are just mad in my view ,although I'd love to see Cork hammer them out the door but it probably won't happen Mayo might and probably will beat us in a QF if I'm being truthful. Their forwards are better than our own at the minute and are one team that can deal with our defence if history is anything to go by" Not sure what game you watched if you thought Donegal should have beat us Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/07/2016 11:06:35 1887471 Link
Replying To Dellboypolecat: "Not sure what game you watched if you thought Donegal should have beat us" Well Donegal probably should have beat Tyrone but we didn't and so Tyrone deserved their victory. If Donegal had attacked a bit more in that second half I feel they would have won. Even playing brutal it took 4 monster scores to win that game. What the Original posters meant was that the 2 teams are very evenly matched. The difference and the reason there is such a massive difference in the odds is that Tyrone have a much much easier path to an All Ireland final than we do. I'm not saying its impossible for Donegal but very improbably. Take each game on its own merits and I'm surprised we aren't longer shots for an All Ireland while Tyrone will be odds on for both their quarter final and semi final. dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 21/07/2016 11:18:39 1887480 Link
Top 5 team and as such are contenders. Probably the team I'd be most nervous about. Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 21/07/2016 11:28:15 1887488 Link
100% contenders they have won me over i wasnt sure they were of the required level as yet i was wrong Tyrone are the team I fear the most Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 21/07/2016 11:39:06 1887494 Link
I can see them reaching the final but their inside forwards need to improve or show more consistency at least. I would have my doubts that McAliskey or O'Neill could get the better of Johnny Cooper of Philly McMahon for example. Cavanagh probably wouldn't play as an orthadox full forward so Dublin's perceived weakness at full back might not be such a big issue. Then again, Mickey Harte is a master tactician so who knows what he'd come up with. A lot of football to be played yet though. If I was Tyrone I'd be wary of Mayo in the quarters if it likely comes to pass. They have a poor record against them & it would be another big obstacle for them to overcome. Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9171 - 21/07/2016 11:41:15 1887497 Link
They have the mid field and the pedigree. They can play spectacular open football when it suits, or put on the tin hats and dig in to the trenches in defense. They also can Score heavily. I would say that they are lively contenders, but Mayo will have a big say in their progress to the semis. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 21/07/2016 11:42:38 1887501 Link
Tyrone are back. Can Mickey the great Hart land Sam for the fourth time? Dublin and Kerry are on the other side of the draw. Cork and Mayo are bogey teams for Tyrone if they get either in the quarter-finals. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 21/07/2016 11:57:08 1887506 Link
Replying To dstuction: "Well Donegal probably should have beat Tyrone but we didn't and so Tyrone deserved their victory. If Donegal had attacked a bit more in that second half I feel they would have won. Even playing brutal it took 4 monster scores to win that game. What the Original posters meant was that the 2 teams are very evenly matched. The difference and the reason there is such a massive difference in the odds is that Tyrone have a much much easier path to an All Ireland final than we do. I'm not saying its impossible for Donegal but very improbably. Take each game on its own merits and I'm surprised we aren't longer shots for an All Ireland while Tyrone will be odds on for both their quarter final and semi final." Not sure how Tyrone would be "odds on" in a QF against Mayo. I would think it would be a fairly even call, if not slightly Mayo favourites. Mayo are not playing anywhere near their level of the past 4 years, however they have a full pack to pick from now and will always be a threat with their personnel. Tyrone were excellent in the 2nd half against Donegal, however they still had to sneak it in the end and Donegal probably feel they did not do themselves justice after dominating the 1st half. It also has to be said that like Mayo, Donegal have played nowhere near the level this year, they have been at over the last 4 or 5 years. So in reality, Tyrone have struggled over the line against an out of sorts Donegal and will now have to play probably Dublin's biggest threat over the past 3 years in Mayo. Tyrone are fast developing and a team on the rise that may be meeting teams on the way down but I feel it's too early to write off Mayo saying they are "odds on" to beat them. BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 311 - 21/07/2016 12:04:57 1887517 Link
Still a long way to go. Tyrone's record in the quarter finals is won six lost five. Certainly two possible bogey teams lined up in the championship Cork won none lost two and Mayo won one lost three. That said after overcoming the Donegal bogey I think Tyrone will be able to play a better style of football in Croke Park and enjoy themselves more. Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 21/07/2016 12:12:26 1887525 Link
Replying To dstuction: "Well Donegal probably should have beat Tyrone but we didn't and so Tyrone deserved their victory. If Donegal had attacked a bit more in that second half I feel they would have won. Even playing brutal it took 4 monster scores to win that game. What the Original posters meant was that the 2 teams are very evenly matched. The difference and the reason there is such a massive difference in the odds is that Tyrone have a much much easier path to an All Ireland final than we do. I'm not saying its impossible for Donegal but very improbably. Take each game on its own merits and I'm surprised we aren't longer shots for an All Ireland while Tyrone will be odds on for both their quarter final and semi final." I don't get this " Donegal probably should have beat Tyrone " rubbish. A lot of your supporters were saying this after the game. Tyrone played wiith a real fear in the first half which isn't surprising given the last years. No team should do anything, you go out and win or you don't simple as! I genuinely think with that monkey of our back we will improve massively the next game. whether we can beat mayo or not is another matter. redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 21/07/2016 12:23:55 1887539 Link
Replying To GameOfTyrones: "Tyrone at 4/1 Donegal 28/1 is madness in my view. Donegal probably should have bet us ..we literally scrapped by the barrel against Cavan and Donegal.,,Donegal have a bad draw (Cork,maybe Dublin,Kerry and us/Mayo/ in the final but them odds are madness)but.. We are no better than Donegal except for Harte's great outfield play and a bit of luck in the extra 6...anyone that discredits Donegal over us at the minute are just mad in my view ,although I'd love to see Cork hammer them out the door but it probably won't happen Mayo might and probably will beat us in a QF if I'm being truthful. Their forwards are better than our own at the minute and are one team that can deal with our defence if history is anything to go by" Not sure what game you watched if you thought Donegal should have beat us Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/07/2016 12:27:06 1887542 Link
Top 4 team yes but contenders I don't think so. Bit to go yet tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/07/2016 12:28:25 1887545 Link
Without any doubt Tyrone are contenders, reckon they could change their game plan to suit whoever they are playing topdownfan (Down) - Posts: 555 - 21/07/2016 13:00:20 1887580 Link
We should have beaten Tyrone but we haven't hit our best form yet, not helped by the decisions RG has made with subs etc. I expect Mayo to beat Tyrone in the quarter final, Mayo haven't hit their for yet either but I expect them too once they hit Croker, I think this Tyrone team are average enough and I don't buy into this media hype surrounding them,for all their talk about a young team it took 33 year old Sean Cavanagh to drag them over the line. As for ourselves we are on the wrong side of the draw but I'd love to get another crack at the Dubs,Cork are an unknown quantity, capable of beating anyone on their day, I'll never forget our match with them in 2012,one of the best games of football I've ever seen. TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 21/07/2016 13:14:02 1887593 Link
Replying To TirChonaillabu2: "We should have beaten Tyrone but we haven't hit our best form yet, not helped by the decisions RG has made with subs etc. I expect Mayo to beat Tyrone in the quarter final, Mayo haven't hit their for yet either but I expect them too once they hit Croker, I think this Tyrone team are average enough and I don't buy into this media hype surrounding them,for all their talk about a young team it took 33 year old Sean Cavanagh to drag them over the line. As for ourselves we are on the wrong side of the draw but I'd love to get another crack at the Dubs,Cork are an unknown quantity, capable of beating anyone on their day, I'll never forget our match with them in 2012,one of the best games of football I've ever seen." Slightly deluded buddy if that's your perception of game. In fairness the best team won - Tyrone adopted their game to suit you and certainly wont play that way against Mayo/Kildare. The referee blacked carded two of their best players and they still won and they will be a different animal with an AC Cup in their back pocket going into a venue they love playing in. Donegal have a difficult draw but I certainly see them causing a lot of problems for whoever they meet and perhaps there will be a rematch between you and Tyrone in final. IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 21/07/2016 13:39:55 1887614 Link
Tyrone have every chance this year as they are on the easy side of the draw. Get through the quarter final and all they have to do is beat Galway in the semis and be fresh and ready to face a battle hardened weary team in the final. Could be a soft All Ireland for Tyrone this year -) KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 21/07/2016 13:45:29 1887621 Link
Replying To GameOfTyrones: "Tyrone at 4/1 Donegal 28/1 is madness in my view. Donegal probably should have bet us ..we literally scrapped by the barrel against Cavan and Donegal.,,Donegal have a bad draw (Cork,maybe Dublin,Kerry and us/Mayo/ in the final but them odds are madness)but.. We are no better than Donegal except for Harte's great outfield play and a bit of luck in the extra 6...anyone that discredits Donegal over us at the minute are just mad in my view ,although I'd love to see Cork hammer them out the door but it probably won't happen Mayo might and probably will beat us in a QF if I'm being truthful. Their forwards are better than our own at the minute and are one team that can deal with our defence if history is anything to go by" It's the route they'll take now, best case scenario is facing the dubs the week after taking on a physical Cork. I'd say that alone is the reason Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 21/07/2016 13:47:53 1887625 Link