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All Ireland Minor Football Quarter Finals

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Any insight or opinions be greatly appreciated. The draw if I am not mistaken is Galway v Laois, Derry v Kerry, Donegal v Cork and Kildare v Mayo. How do people rate the different teams chances? From a personal perspective I have seen Donegal's last 2 games and they have a very good side with at least 3 exceptional players for the grade in Peader Mongan, Jason McGee and a young lad the country will be talking about injury permitting Niall O'Donnell. From feedback on another thread Donegal probably have the toughest task in relation to playing Cork next who some said were impressive in defeat to a very impressive Kerry side in Munster. I seen Galway in action against Roscommon in the Connaught semi final and while they won well it was a very poor effort from Roscommon on the day who were very weak defensively. Kildare again Leinster champions but they flatter to deceive at this stage once out of the province. Kerry very strong again it seems and should account for a Derry side who have great tenacity and spirit but do not have a player in the class of Conor Glass from last year though I doubt there is many better keepers in the country at the grade than the Derry keeper who put on a show in Clones with the accuracy of his kickouts irrespective of the distance.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 20/07/2016 18:24:38    1887202

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as regards the minor quarter finals involving Connacht teams
galway have a very good side this year
well organized ,plenty of talent there
id expect a big win over laois who don't seem to be great
they came through the loosers section in leinster
watch out for evan murphy at no 11 for galway
id expect mayo to put it up to kildare too
Connacht have been quite strong at minor and under 21 in recent years

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 20/07/2016 20:58:08    1887263

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Yeah I seen him play against Ros he was the stand out player on the night. Ye had a small nippy half forward who was also decent. I was not overly impressed by either side. Roscommon were terribly poor at the back but created plenty of chances that they did not take going forward. I did not catch highlights of the Connaught final but I did see highlights of Mayo against Leitrim in the other semi final. The scoreline flattered Mayo a bit as a couple of the goals were down to a poor Leitrim full back line. To be fair Galway fairly hammered Mayo in the final. If Donegal were to meet Galway in the semi final I would fancy Donegal strongly but as you know with minors it can be all on the day and Donegal have shown nerves at times in their last 2 games. I think Donegal would have a big advantage at midfield and from what I saw of Galway defensively I think Niall O'Donnell would run riot. It is if and buts as I think Donegal do have the toughest draw of the provincial winners in playing Cork but again we just do not know the collateral form yet.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 20/07/2016 21:12:21    1887269

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Laois don't deserve to be there,how can you lose two games and be in an All-Ireland Quarter final? Truly pathetic..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/07/2016 23:00:54    1887331

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I agree there ziggy but at the same time it does give young players a second chance which might aid their development so I see both sides.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 20/07/2016 23:54:41    1887351

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Laois don't deserve to be there,how can you lose two games and be in an All-Ireland Quarter final? Truly pathetic.."
They should just have the Leinster Minor League but play it in Summer. Gives the players a chance to develop over a few games. I think this year the Leinster Minor league final was between Dublin v Laois which Dublin won. On a side note..Don't understand why Tipperary are in the Leinster Minor league. Anyway they were beaten by Laois 3-19 Tipperary 0-7. Laois defeated Kildare as well. Maybe Kildare were missing a few players.

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 21/07/2016 00:54:42    1887366

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My head and heart say the winner of Derry and Kerry. two great underage sides at the min. only getting better

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 21/07/2016 06:30:35    1887380

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Replying To panamasam:  "I agree there ziggy but at the same time it does give young players a second chance which might aid their development so I see both sides."
Yes but will be beaten 3 times..

For example Offaly and Laois were beaten in the earlier rounds by Dublin and Meath respectively... Meath beat Dublin in the quarters. Then the semi final draw had the two beaten teams Offaly v Laois and the two unbeaten teams Meath and Kildare.Meath and Kildare was a cracking game in which Kildare just about won in extra time after Meath missed a penalty.Now imo the two unbeaten teams should have been kept apart in the semi's.Meath themselves could have easily gone a long way and would be far better than Laois.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/07/2016 07:57:54    1887383

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Yes they should have being kept apart and it was tough on Meath so I see your angst. You think Derry would beat Donegal if they met again Doire? Doubt it myself. While the winning margin was only 2 points on Sunday Donegal were worth alot than 2 points. Missed a couple of sitters for goals and Derry goal should really have been avoided at the end.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 21/07/2016 10:43:43    1887451

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Replying To crikey:  "They should just have the Leinster Minor League but play it in Summer. Gives the players a chance to develop over a few games. I think this year the Leinster Minor league final was between Dublin v Laois which Dublin won. On a side note..Don't understand why Tipperary are in the Leinster Minor league. Anyway they were beaten by Laois 3-19 Tipperary 0-7. Laois defeated Kildare as well. Maybe Kildare were missing a few players."
Kildare entered two teams in the Leinster Minor League this year.

beir_bua (Kildare) - Posts: 746 - 21/07/2016 12:21:01    1887537

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What are the pairings for the semis? Expect Galway, Kildare, Kerry and Donegal to be the last four. Although good chance they'll be a surprise in one of those games.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2224 - 21/07/2016 12:33:02    1887559

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Kildare have had two minor teams in the Leinster minor league for the last couple of years at least. The teams are known as Kildare and Cill Dara respectively the same as Dublin have Dublin and Baile Ath Cliath.I don't think anyone else has two teams entered. Maybe Meath have Ziggy?

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2992 - 21/07/2016 12:45:31    1887565

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Replying To beir_bua:  "Kildare entered two teams in the Leinster Minor League this year."
True,most teams were missing players in the Leinster Minor League,it is always hard to take that competition seriously.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/07/2016 12:58:04    1887579

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It will be Connaught v Ulster and Leinster v Munster as per seniors. So if the provincial winners win it will be Galway v Donegal and Kildare v Kerry. I think there will be a shock there somewhere myself always tends to be at minor level. Teams under perform more regularly under the increased pressure.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 21/07/2016 13:39:15    1887613

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Replying To Marooned:  "What are the pairings for the semis? Expect Galway, Kildare, Kerry and Donegal to be the last four. Although good chance they'll be a surprise in one of those games."
Marooned, the semi pairings are winners of Derry/Kerry v winners of Kildare/Mayo and winners of Galway/Laois V winners of Cork/Donegal.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2992 - 21/07/2016 13:47:24    1887623

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I presume Derry have quite a few of the St Pats Maghera Hogan Cup Final Team?

Kerry will have a good few Sem lads and players from last year's minor team who are used to playing in Croke Park and in big games.

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 21/07/2016 14:04:41    1887639

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Kildare have won 3 Leinsters in the last 4 years and beaten in one final. Good signs, hopefully they can push Dublin in the future. Census shows there is nearly 1/4 million people in Kildare now. They have the resources to push on further one would think.

sportsfan14 (USA) - Posts: 281 - 21/07/2016 14:19:57    1887657

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Replying To sportsfan14:  "Kildare have won 3 Leinsters in the last 4 years and beaten in one final. Good signs, hopefully they can push Dublin in the future. Census shows there is nearly 1/4 million people in Kildare now. They have the resources to push on further one would think."
Brendan Hackett doing a fine job in Kildare @sportsfan developing the underage teams in Kildare. I feel Westmeath have missed a trick there as he was brought in as their senior manager with a view to developing the underage system as well. Given that Westmeath have players of the calibre of Heslin. Kieran Martin, James Dolan and Paul Sharry it is a shame that there does not seem to be a well of young players coming through to compliment these guys which would help Westmeath push on some more. One thing I have noticed about the recent underage Kildare sides is that they are physically big lads who look like they have spent alot of time in the gym but sometimes lacking in the football skills when it comes to taking on teams outside of Leinster. Found badly wanting against Tipp last year and I seen a strongly fancied minor team well beaten by Roscommon in a quarter final 3 years ago. Maybe this years side will be different so be interesting to see how they go. Looks a tough draw with Mayo and then Kerry.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 21/07/2016 15:20:54    1887731

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Replying To KYTitletown:  "I presume Derry have quite a few of the St Pats Maghera Hogan Cup Final Team?

Kerry will have a good few Sem lads and players from last year's minor team who are used to playing in Croke Park and in big games."
Hi KY I think there are 5 or 6 of those lads in the Derry team. In the build up to the final I read that somewhere as they were comparing the sides from their Ulster league meeting. Donegal won by 2 points but were worth a bit more than that margin. Derry stayed in the game in the 2nd half as a result of alot of soft frees where the Donegal tackling should have been better. Tactically they are well organised and clearly had their homework done having raced into an earlier lead but once Donegal shook off the early nerves they were the better side in most areas. Derry killed Donegal last year with their kick outs last year and were good in this regard this year. The Derry keeper is excellent in this regard but also a very good shot stopper. Hard to compare teams from different provinces at this stage but I would think Kerry should have too much for Derry. Derry do seem to have a great spirit about them as Armagh had them beat till they fought back and they never stopped trying against Donegal. The difference was that in Jason Mcgee, Peader Mongan and Niall O'Donnell Donegal had players who look exceptional for the age group with a good support group which Derry could not match.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 21/07/2016 15:30:20    1887740

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Looks a tough draw with Mayo and then Kerry.

Not sure how good Mayo are this year to be honest. Galway beat them by 6 in the Connacht final but if it was a dry day I think they would have beaten them by 10+ points. That said in recent years at underage we've often seen sides that look great in Leinster but not so great once they have to play sides from outside Leinster.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2224 - 21/07/2016 16:36:15    1887777

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